discuss IF YOU DONT OWN DOT COM YOU DONT HAVE MUCH!

[artstar]

Well after all the hype and hoopla and support ive had over the years trying to support other tlds its now time to admit, IF YOU DONT OWN THE DOT COM YOU DONT HAVE MUCH!

Dot com dot com dot com

No other will do, no other will take its place, no other has its value, no other has a chance against it!!!

I don't care if its now or 20 years from now if you don't own the dot com you are setting yourself up for a loss period end of story!

So to all you newbies, save your $$$$ now and buy or hand reg ONLY dot coms cause if you don't you will find you messed up bigtime!

 

[mad409]

We'll agree to disagree on that one, to me it's very simple:

First choice type domains = .com, org,. country codes
these will always be in demand since they're extensions people actually want, know and use

Second choice = everything else. Somebody comes to you with an offer, you reject, nowadays (for those who are ok with second choice type domains), they have more options.

Sure I've rejected and they find another I'm sure. But I'm not going to sell a nGTLD domain with several XXXX sales for $300.00 but that's just me.

I agree first choice is .com, not sure about org or ccTLD's in many cases. Actually we're not that far apart JB on many things, it's just I like the new gTLDs and you don't.

We can agree to disagree on that..

 

[artstar]

You're rambling now.

lol yea I guess repeating myself 4 sure

im done for sure on this topic anyhow just going camping into the bc interior this week so u heard it all from me on this!

ramble on, ledz all the way!!!

 

[Chris Rice]

I was responding to what Chris said:

"@mad409 actually has sales and good ones."

He just made that up unless he knows of others besides that wines one. He mentioned Namebio so I took a look and as I said, no sales over $1,000 in 2 months. And from the startup blog posts, new gtlds all together, like 1 or 2%, something low like that.

Back to the main point @JB Lions

If a domain name is terrible in nGTLD, it's equivalent in .COM will decrease over time (common sense).

 

[ZapNano]

I collected various of domain extensions; some gets clicks and some gets visitors only. Does this mean I get a sell soon, or I have to wait for 20+ years

 

[ZapNano]

.com= dry ?
nTLD= is live

Which one you rather wanna see Porn.dry or Porn.live

 

[JB Lions]

Back to the main point @JB Lions

If a domain name is terrible in nGTLD, it's equivalent in .COM will decrease over time (common sense).

Don't even know what that means. The main point is you're not getting the second part of domaining. You're buying but you're not selling. That's not a good model.

 

[Chris Rice]

Don't even know what that means. The main point is you're not getting the second part of domaining. You're buying but you're not selling. That's not a good model.

It isn't time to sell nGTLDs, at least for the most part. So I am shifting towards development, dropping the lower quality domains and picking up better quality ones to improve my portfolio.

On average, it's not time to purchase .com's, it's time to sell.. for the most part at least.

Buy Low - Sell High

nGTLDs are Low / COM's are definitely high. It's a sellers market!

@JB Lions

 

[Jurgen Wolf]

I collected various of domain extensions; some gets clicks and some gets visitors only. Does this mean I get a sell soon, or I have to wait for 20+ years

If your traffic is human - 3 years maximum.

 

[TRY]

.COM is Gold, new gtld is fools gold.
If a MAJORITY of your holdings are new gtlds than your a gambler not an investor.

 

[Chris Rice]

.COM is Gold, new gtld is fools gold.
If a MAJORITY of your holdings are new gtlds than your a gambler not an investor.

I would be a gambler if the majority of my assets were in GTLDs, they are not.

Only a tini-tiny bit of my investments are in domain names. And I reckon that one of your .COM's cost more than my entire portfolio (higher risk).

A gambler makes emotional decisions, I analyze Risk vs. Reward. If you researched more about investing you would know that BULL MARKETS are when you sell and that it's best to invest when a market crashes, not when it reaches a new peak.

Read more about investing before you label me (or anyone) a gambler. @Brandingtheweb.com

 

[ZapNano]

If your traffic is human - 3 years maximum.

I get $0.001, $00.2, $0.007 and $0.02 revenues; I think they are human...hope so.

 

[TRY]

I would be a gambler if the majority of my assets were in GTLDs, they are not.

Only a tini-tiny bit of my investments are in domain names. And I reckon that one of your .COM's cost more than my entire portfolio (higher risk).

A gambler makes emotional decisions, I analyze Risk vs. Reward. If you researched more about investing you would know that BULL MARKETS are when you sell and that it's best to invest when a market crashes, not when it reaches a new peak.

Read more about investing before you label me (or anyone) a gambler. @Brandingtheweb.com

So your saying a majority of your domain name investments are in newgtlds. As for new gtlds their is no crash because they never took off. It's great that domain names are a small part of your overall investment portfolio, but I fear that's not the case with alot of the people.

 

[Chris Rice]

As for new gtlds their is no crash because they never took off. It's great that domain names are a small part of your overall investment portfolio, but I fear that's not the case with alot of the people.

That is exactly why I bought into nGTLDs.

.COMs peaked at the end of 2015 or if not, will soon. Maybe Not the Super Premium 6-Figure Domains but the junk .com's that million dollar startups are using (bad grammar, wrong spelling, etc.) those are definitely going to crash.

Markets boom for a while, then they crash before disappearing or starting another bull market. It doesn't matter what market it is, free markets are generally the same if you stretch them out over a long period of time.

Btw, all of your advice about not investing a lot in nGTLDs, doesn't help anyone. You never gave anyone deep insight into how to correctly purchase the right .com. For all we know those blind $5 million USD startups got their 'insight' about domains from you @Brandingtheweb.com and @JB Lions

".COM is gold" "GTLDs are fools gold"

- The real service would be if you help people identify which .com's are gold and which GTLDs are fools gold. A blatant statement like the one you made simply isn't true.

 

[ZapNano]

.COM is Gold, new gtld is fools gold.
If a MAJORITY of your holdings are new gtlds than your a gambler not an investor.

Gold.gold, is this gold.

 

[TRY]

That is exactly why I bought into nGTLDs.

.COMs peaked at the end of 2015 or if not, will soon. Maybe not the SUPER PREMIUM 6 figure domains but the junk .com's that million dollar startups are using (bad grammar, wrong spelling, etc.) those are definitely going to crash.

Markets boom for a while, then they crash before disappearing or starting another bull market. It doesn't matter what market it is, free markets are generally the same if you stretch them out over a long period of time.

Btw, all of your advice about not investing a lot in nGTLDs, doesn't help anyone. You never gave anyone deep insight into how to correctly purchase the right .com. For all we know those blind $5 million USD startups got their 'insight' about domains from you @Brandingtheweb.com and @JB Lions

".COM is gold" "GTLDs are fools gold"

- The real service would be if you help people identify which .com's are gold and which GTLDs are fools gold. A blatant statement like the one you made simply isnt true.

One concern I have with new gtlds is the registrants rights. For example How would you feel if you find out your annual renewal rate increases a hundred fold? .COM renewal rate increases are protected by the government. Another concern is new gtlds can be taken away from you by the registry owner much easier than com's. ...
Gone are the days you can newly register a good .com. Now days it's about the drops, expired, contacting owners directly, and auctions to find undervalued names.

As for the .com's peaking, I agree premiums will go up in value and many of the lesser quality names will and have gone down.

I look at names in the eyes of an enduser which means their must be value. If I were to look at the names with the eyes of a flipper I wouldn't care if it had value as long as someone buys it.

 

[Chris Rice]

As for new gtlds their is no crash because they never took off.

This is actually quite funny since there was already a bust in .COM.. but it was the dotCOM stock market bust at the beginning of 2000. Do you notice the similarities between the people who 'advised' their friends to buy .com stocks at that time without even analyzing the actual company? (herd mentality, peer pressure, etc.) and the .COM loyalists like you @Brandingtheweb.com and @JB Lions ?

The fact that JB thinks that the purchase of misspells and bad grammar is a good sign for the .COM industry is a testament of how little he knows about market cycles (could have fallen victim to the Real Estate Financial Crisis - same concept).

There is a bubble in .COM junk domains. Look at the actual names in use.

Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it" was the oft-repeated maxim of philosopher George Santayana. And investors may now be finding out that they ignored the story of the dotcom boom and bust at their peril.

At the start of 2000, shares were at record highs, technology companies could do no wrong, and scores of loss-making internet businesses were racing to market at improbable valuations. But the bubble burst...

Outdated and a little off-topic but still relevent:
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2014/apr/13/tech-stocks-boom-lessons-from-2000

TAG:
@rokaska7 @MasterOfMyDomains

 

[JB Lions]

The fact that JB thinks that the purchase of misspells and bad grammar is a good sign for the .COM industry is a testament of how little he knows about market cycles (could have fallen victim to the Real Estate Financial Crisis - same concept).

You either need to learn to read or you take things out of context because you can't defend your views.

This is your comment. The new gtlds are there but they're using those .coms instead. You've yet to tell me why you think that is:

The fact that multi-million dollar startups are using unattractive misspells and bad grammar in their .com domains, just goes to show how bad the industry needed nGTLDs. @artstar

And you post all these links to articles that have nothing to do with this. You're invested in .xyz, but when it's pointed out no reported sales over $1,000 at Namebio in last 2 months, you won't touch it. Or when it's pointed out you've sold 0 domains in your life, you won't touch it. You keep talking about how you know the market and how you research and the result is you buying a bunch of bad .xyzs.

 

[TRY]

This actually quite funny since there was already a bust in .COM.. but it was the dotCOM stock market bust at the beginning of 2000. Do you notice the similarities between the people who 'advised' their friends to buy .com stocks at that time without even analyzing the actual company? (herd mentality, peer pressure, etc.) and the .COM loyalists like you @Brandingtheweb.com and @JB Lions ?

The fact that JB thinks that the purchase of misspells and bad grammar is a good sign for the .COM industry is a testament of how little he knows about market cycles (could have fallen victim to the Real Estate Financial Crisis - same concept).

There is a bubble in .COM junk domains. Just look at the actual names in use.

Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it" was the oft-repeated maxim of philosopher George Santayana. And investors may now be finding out that they ignored the story of the dotcom boom and bust at their peril.

At the start of 2000, shares were at record highs, technology companies could do no wrong, and scores of loss-making internet businesses were racing to market at improbable valuations. But the bubble burst...

Outdated and a little off-topic but still relevent:
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2014/apr/13/tech-stocks-boom-lessons-from-2000

I was around in 2000 and the bust was not because the names were not worth it imo. Back then majority of people weren't yet comfortable using credit cards online, the Internet was too slow for anything but text and pictures, google adwords wasn't around, advertisers options to market online was limited, the number of users online was much smaller, etc.

 

[Chris Rice]

You either need to learn to read or you take things out of context because you can't defend your views.

We both agree that companies would rather use misspells and bad grammar .com RATHER THAN new gtlds, you pointed out that yourself. That actually points a negative light into your "investments", new gtlds.

The fact that multi-million dollar startups are using misspells and bad grammar is a good sign if you are selling into the folly with a portfolio of junk .com's @JB Lions . But it is a bad sign for the future of 2-tier and 3-tier domains for .COMs. It shows that the market has gone so high that common sense has gone out the window.

There is a saying in the free market:

"The higher they rise, the harder they fall."

I am only 31 but I have witnessed this enough times to understand. And if you guys reflect, you probably have too @Brandingtheweb.com

 

[JB Lions]

The fact that multi-million dollar startups are using misspells and bad grammar is a good sign if you are selling into the folly with a portfolio of junk .com's @JB Lions . But it is a bad sign for the future of 2-tier and 3-tier domains for .COMs. It shows that the market has gone so high that common sense has gone out the window.

There is a saying in the free market:

"The higher they rise, the harder they fall."

I am only 31 but I have witnessed this enough times to understand. And if you guys reflect, you probably have too @Brandingtheweb.com

No, as I said, it's a sign of how bad new gtlds are, that startups would rather go with a bad .com

Why do you keep skipping that?

Why are they picking what you call "bad .coms" instead of new gtlds? By overwhelming numbers?