.tv If we support tv why do we not use it.?

[hullswingerscom]

looking at the me tv forums what most of us have on here no one seems to use them apart from brookebrodack.tv.
if we hope for people to come on board to dot tv dont you think we should
chat on a forum on the metv platform as well as on namepros.

it is a bit hipacritical that we dont use it and between us all we must have 100 of forums on the metv
we could put a few post on a site to see if we can get some interest.
pick a name and lets use it as well as namepros,makes sence to me.

 

[equity78]

Makes no sense to me I have no interest in ME.tv and there is no comparing the forum software on ME.tv with Vbulletin. But anyone else starting a forum all the best I will stay with the original, I have been offered cash to start a .tv forum for someone and leave NP, No thank you this is where it all began and the center of the .tv world on the internet.

 

[TheBulldog]

I would agree most definately about the part about me.tv. There forum set up sucks.

I will part ways about the vB though. I am not a big fan of it myself. Just too big a pain to manage IMHO.

I have set up forums on a couple of my tv sites, but have not actively pushed it anywhere. I do agree though, that it would be nice to have something outside of namepros. But only in the aspect that it would look better to have a .tv at the end of the name.

 

[poiuytrewq]

Hi Mike

Those forums are a complete waste of time dude - I doubt the quality of traffic that visits those sites anyway. The forums also look extremely amateurish - you can't even post hyperlinks!!

 

[hullswingerscom]

was post today bud.look after it..lol

points taken...

 

[RogueWriter]

I am making some nominal posts in one of my forums, but you need to be able to make some hyper links, and it needs to be more robust in order to be practical. I know it is on their release list, but that is a huge issue.

I look at what DM is doing and I have to kep reminding myself, hey, within the next year this platform is going to be pretty darn special, if they implement the right tools within that year.

I do concur, however, that it is not flexible enough to suit most of my needs.

Still, for those domains you want to flip, having something up and running can at least demonstrate to prospective customers the angle you would take to development.

 

[Rogor]

Makes no sense to me I have no interest in ME.tv and there is no comparing the forum software on ME.tv with Vbulletin. But anyone else starting a forum all the best I will stay with the original, I have been offered cash to start a .tv forum for someone and leave NP, No thank you this is where it all began and the center of the .tv world on the internet.

you the man EQ.

Has anyone had any experience with Godaddy Quickblogcast. I just breezed it but I couldn't see a video upload utility.

 

[MillersCrossing]

And ME.TV's webmail login stinks.......all in all, if you want to be taken seriously by anyone , do NOT use the ME.TV platform. It is not just their forum, or the questionable traffic that Gig Tv raised..or the webmail that struggles to open or forward webmail..but the entire foundations of the network is amateur to say the very least....

Botttom line is you get what you pay for...

And Hull,

Your question seems to assume an inherent relationship between the extension .TV and the ME.TV network.

Supporting .TV by getting a name that ends in .TV and supporting Demand Media by joining the ME.TV network are two entirely different matters.

I think DM taking over the marketing was a step in the right direction for .TV. I think them trying to challenge the big boys with a ME.TV network has done nothing for the extension except to give outsiders the opinion that owning a ME.TV site is not for serious people about having an online presence on the net.

 

[poiuytrewq]

And ME.TV's webmail login stinks........

Possibly THE worst bit of programming anywhere on the internet.

But you are quite right though James, we have to get away from the perception of .TV - as an extension - and me.tv being the same. It took me a while to realise this. Since I broke away from the quite awful me.tv platform, my interest and passion for .TV has been renewed.

Me.tv is a cul de sac.

 

[RogueWriter]

Well, lets look at how operating systems performed for our computers over the years. At first, all we had to work with was DOS, and all of us old-timers learned arcane commands and built scripts using an edit command. Jumping up to Windows was huge, even though it was inordinantly slow, clunky, and I had issues with my system freezing from time to time. But now, look at the ease with which we use an interface that allows us to build web sites using a gui interface while simultaneously surfing the web, working on a spreadsheet, and remotely fixing your mom's PC for the umnpteenth time this week.

My point is, I don't think it is fair to dismiss DM's entry into the TV extension as a finalized, end-all product. Yes, they could have stayed out of it for a couple or three years, always planning on eventually giving us a finished product - but heck if every company did that, we'd never be able to buy a computer or a monitor, any software, basically anything at all that involves evolving technological standards. Microsoft never ever would have released anything.

DM needs to strengthen their product - or platform - but I am not going to wait around for the platform to be perfect before I use it with some of my sites. Will that hurt me? Well, not really - I have dozens of projects I am working on, and the one thing their platform does allow is for you to at least throw up a basic site within a few short hours, with upkeep and new videos added only taking half an hour every week.

If your are talking about developing the only domain you own, sure, you need to purchase some high-falutin' whiz bang software that is already tested and fulfills your total needs. But if you don't depend on this site for 'right now' money, then I don't see the harm in being prepared for the next upgrades that are coming down the road.

 

[MillersCrossing]

Some very good points Rogue,

I am talking about people who are looking for - like I said, a serious online presence.

Owning a Me.TV site would damage the brand of the company that used it as things currently stand.

Sure, if you have loads of names (and remember we are domainers - we are the vast minority....most people reg a name for a business) you can afford to play around with Me.Tv...you have nothing to lose.......

And yes, I am all for giving them more time to get it right..I am talking about the present in response to Hull's query........my only concern is , if like Hull, loads of other internet users associate .TV with Me.Tv as it is right now......that would not be a good thing....

 

[hullswingerscom]

if like Hull, loads of other internet users associate .TV with Me.Tv as it is right now......that would not be a good thing...miller...

i think this is a good point i think lots of people who come onto the metv ,will think this is how what dot tv is.maybe they have come from reg at enom.
am a newbie realy to domains and to me me/dot tv are one till i see other dot tv what are easy to find.me tv gives me this.the fact that it is not very good tell me i will not bother with it much longer and maybe go back to you tube

 

[equity78]

Well you are talking about a myriad of things here. IMO Me.tv is great for a teenager or a hobbyist, I am getting ready to reg one for my little sister who is having a baby any day now. She is not web proficient so this will be a great site for her to upload pics , videos, write a little blog entry each day about the baby and family and friends can interact. THAT PERFECT IMO it takes care of everything.

Now someone involved in .tv for business ME.tv is not the right choice it is not professional it does not have robust features and needs a lot of improvement.

So it depends what you need a me.tv site for before you can champion it.

 

[eyedomainous]

UGC (User Generated Content) sites are, by definition, not professional. MySpace & YouTube user sites do not look "professional" yet thousands of the most respectable businesses, museums, celebrities ect. have pages/sites. Me.TV user sites look better than MySpace & YouTube user sites, IMO.

I have a handful of Me.TV sites and plan on adding more because the network & tools allow me to reach more 'eyeballs', in a key (TV UGC) demographic, that I would miss with my 'professional' sites. Putting links to my pro sites on my Me.TV home pages exposes my brands & services, and those of my clients, to a new eyeballs (potential "fans"/customers, free word-of-mouth promoters... and so on.)

TV and UGC are "the people's media". To NOT use free tools to reach the people (your audience) is unprofessional... from a business perspective. IMO.
The 'fact' that the (people's) messenger is not dressed professionally is not only a poor excuse -not to communicate, but its actually a good thing... for that demographic.

Word!

 

[equity78]

First off the reasons why companies and celebrities are on My Space is because My Space is one of the most trafficked sites. It makes sense to have a spot where everyone else is. NO me.tv site is that popular, secondly there stats are inflated you look at peoples sites with 10,000 views which comparing to My Space is absolutely nothing. But when you look at Video Views they are 20 or 30.

Secondly everyone does not have the same audience, so no in some cases looking unprofessional is a problem not everyone is looking to reach teens and people in there early 20's and show funny videos.

Since users of the site other than the owner cannot upload pics or videos it really is not UGC.

People looking to do real business with Great .tv domains will not be using or shilling for ME.tv. They will use better platforms to do real business and build a real site. Because 20,000 ME.tv clones which just look like My Space and You Tube are really nothing special to anyone but Demand Media and those shilling for Me.tv. Again IMO

 

[eyedomainous]

First off the reasons why companies and celebrities are on My Space is because My Space is one of the most trafficked sites. It makes sense to have a spot where everyone else is. NO me.tv site is that popular, secondly there stats are inflated you look at peoples sites with 10,000 views which comparing to My Space is absolutely nothing. But when you look at Video Views they are 20 or 30.

MySpace did not launch as "one of the most trafficked sites". It took a few years, and Me.TV's Richard Rosenblatt at the helm. Besides, this argument supports the 'EyeBalls' v 'professional site' point that I'm making. Now, if you want to count eyeballs... How many is enough? And whose eyeballs, in the TV biz, don't count?

Secondly everyone does not have the same audience, so no in some cases looking unprofessional is a problem not everyone is looking to reach teens and people in there early 20's and show funny videos.

I agree. Though you over-generalize. All Me.Tv sites are not for "people in there early 20's" and not all show "funny videos".

Since users of the site other than the owner cannot upload pics or videos it really is not UGC.

Splitting hairs here. No one can upload vids or pics unless they register. And no one can upload vids & pics to someone else's site, without admin approval, on MySpace, YouTube or Me.TV. The registered user/s can upload content to Me.TV/MySpace/YouTube. Hence the term User Generated Content. A term much broader than your thinking/example.

People looking to do real business with Great .tv domains will not be using or shilling for ME.tv. They will use better platforms to do real business and build a real site. Because 20,000 ME.tv clones which just look like My Space and You Tube are really nothing special to anyone but Demand Media and those shilling for Me.tv. Again IMO

Are you saying that Rich Rosenblatt is Not a "professional"? That Rich.TV is Not a "great domain"? And, that he is Not doing "real business"?

Your statement is both arrogant and ignorant. Rosenblatt aside... I do "real business with Great .tv domains" ... and I use Me.TV. One is not exclusive of the other. No I did not put GalleryGuide.TV on Me.TV but the biz i got from someone who clicked over from a link on my Me.TV site -NeWWW.TV was real business and the money spent like real money... even though the client was an artist in her 20's.

Also, I "shill" for my sites/biz... which includes my Me.TV sites. To suggest otherwise is unprofessional and disrespectful. And, my voice will not be intimidated into silence by you, your position, your 'crew' or the "spy" theory. If someone supports Me.Tv and voices it they are "shilling" or a "spy"?? Grow TF UP!!

And, I'm not going to let anyone shill for the demise of the first, viable, .TV network. Especially the Mod of the .TV forum who shills for Moniker and sites like Parked.com (which is owned by someone with some 200 convictions for cybersquatting).

IMO, your open support for Moniker -promoting their .TV discount regs in a 'sticky'... while not doing the same for Me.TV -when they beat the price (not to mention Godaddy), is a conflict of interest... that explains "your agenda").

 

[equity78]

First off I don't shill for so you grow TF UP and know what you are talking about before you speak. I have two .tv domains with Moniker and that was a a deal I got them to give all members of the forum in 06 way before Me.tv existed. Secondly you will notice when other prices dropped I stated that Moniker price is not the best. Thirdly I took down the sticky after lower pricing came across aboard. Lastly I believe that Most domainers certainly repsect MONIKER and MONTE for being a safe registrar.

No I don't find Richards site to be too professional, and I do not find newww.tv to look too professional either.

And no one was trying to silence anyone you gave your opinion then someone else gave theirs. You love ME.tv great good luck to you for a hobby site I like it too for a professional site I do not like it at all.

 

[TheBulldog]

I'll just say that I personally think that me.tv is great for individuals that don't want or need a custom site, or for that matter, a decent site.

Aside from that, I think that based on what they have done so far, me.tv has the potential, although not the likelyhood, to do more damage for the tv extension then good. My personal opinion is that if me.tv becomes the pervasive front of the tv extension then it will hurt the next few years of .tv sales.

That being said, I think that if someone like Bob Parsons was to become the ".tv extension" seller with the best prices, then .tv will do 10 times as well.

While Rosenblatt knows how to turn a site around, and make it worth millions, I have some concerns about what he can do with an entire extension. Imagine if you will that Rich decides that me.tv is the ONLY thing he wants to concentrate on? That means that the rest of the extension will be ignored by the company that is supposed to promote it if you don't want a clone of a clone of a clone.

 

[eyedomainous]

First off I don't shill for so you grow TF UP and know what you are talking about before you speak. I have two .tv domains with Moniker and that was a a deal I got them to give all members of the forum in 06 way before Me.tv existed. Secondly you will notice when other prices dropped I stated that Moniker price is not the best. Thirdly I took down the sticky after lower pricing came across aboard. Lastly I believe that Most domainers certainly repsect MONIKER and MONTE for being a safe registrar.

No I don't find Richards site to be too professional, and I do not find newww.tv to look too professional either.

And no one was trying to silence anyone you gave your opinion then someone else gave theirs. You love ME.tv great good luck to you for a hobby site I like it too for a professional site I do not like it at all.

For the record... Moniker and Monte deserve and have my respect. My point was/is Moniker got a "lowest price" or "best deal" Sticky; Me.TV & Godaddy did not when they beat the price. Fair is fair. I thanked you for the Moniker deal and signed-up with Moniker because of it. A "best deal" .TV sticky was and is a good idea... and a small marketing incentive / reward for registars to offer the best price/deal.

Yes... I wish I had the time and money to turn ALL of my .TV domains into "Professional Sites". I don't. Few do.

Also, you say I "Love Me.TV". "Whats Love got to do with it". lol. And no I don't. I see it as a .TV business that gives me, the domainer, an option I did not have before. I see it as a piece to the (online .TV domaining) puzzle.

 

[equity78]

I don't have the capital to do that either Eye, that is why I said I think it fine for other sites and I am getting one for my sister having a baby. And when I got pms about Moniker I told people this does not matter anymore ENOM.tv at $19.99 then they moved to $24.99 I took the sticky down the first time and a couple people said oh I prefer Moniker over ENOM so I put it back up but then took the moniker sticky down on the middle of June because I realized it a waste of time with Go Daddy at $14.99 at that time. Maybe I will put a sticky with all pricing and when they change people can refer to the sticky TRUST ME if people used Moniker or not meant nothing to me the deal was done in July 06 way before ME.tv