.tv If we support tv why do we not use it.?

[hullswingerscom]

looking at the me tv forums what most of us have on here no one seems to use them apart from brookebrodack.tv.
if we hope for people to come on board to dot tv dont you think we should
chat on a forum on the metv platform as well as on namepros.

it is a bit hipacritical that we dont use it and between us all we must have 100 of forums on the metv
we could put a few post on a site to see if we can get some interest.
pick a name and lets use it as well as namepros,makes sence to me.

 

[Makis.TV]

Hull and others(myself as well) are concerned because me.tv is promoted as one of the main tv based platforms.
At first i thought it was good to put one of my domains me.tv and gain some traffic, after a while i thought its better to get my best domains out of that platform because it ruins my premium domains brand. They all look the same and they all make you think this is a myspace thing.

TV Domains ARE NOT MYSPACE PROFILES. Me.tv promotes them as myspace profiles and that makes me think a lot because even if my potential market doesnt come from people around the age of 14-22 it still ruins the tv domain usage.

Endusers will come after my tv domains no matter what i have on them BUT other people that used to invest in dot com and now want to taste some dot tv will see the me.tv's and think this is a domain that is like myspace or video blogs.

 

[poiuytrewq]

Aside from that, I think that based on what they have done so far, me.tv has the potential, although not the likelyhood, to do more damage for the tv extension then good. My personal opinion is that if me.tv becomes the pervasive front of the tv extension then it will hurt the next few years of .tv sales.

Good point. I really do think they will damage the extension - or its perception at least. But I really don't think they will get chance because...

(controversial comment I'm gonna make here) ....I don't see them being around for too much longer. Call me cynical, but my trusty internet nose (which has been succesfully domaining since 1999) smells something afoot over at DM towers. Cerainly the product is amateurish, and despite all the 'give it time' protestations, I don't see it becoming less amateurish. Put it this way, I see the fundamental building blocks of the me.tv platform as so flawed, it would take a complete bottom-up re-design/re-engineer/re-program/re-think to instill my interest again.

I think it is flawed for other reasons too: the whole idea of doing a quick grab of someone else's work is, to me at least (OK I'm an old-fashioned creative), somewhat distasteful. It encapsulates the current malaise of internet-laziness. So we don't need to develop our .TVs, we just grab a few YT vids. We just use someone else's work. So what? I want to see something gorgeous and thought-provoking from a .TV site. The extension has to say 'cutting-edge/inspiration/unique experience' not 'lazy clone'.

The proliferation of MYSpace style grabbed-video-portals would not be good for the extension. The internet and web 2.0 is about user-experience. The me.tv system IMO opinion is about vanity and webmaster experience in that in a majority of the sites I have viewed (and I have viewed alot, trust me on that!) it's about getting a few quick vids on there to create an instant web presence. Anyone here pay regular trips to a me.tv site to view the content? Well, we just go to YT anyway don't we?

There are exceptions where people have made a real effort to take their me.tv site out of the ordinary - the guy at probook.tv has done a great job for example. And I tried my hardest with Amazed.TV where I did my own videos with bespoke soundtracks (amazed is now under new ownership btw).

There are certainly things in ME.TVs favour though. As mentioned, it is good for the 14-18 age group. Also, I have to say that I sold 6 ME.TV sites at a handsome profit so there is an argument that it raises the value of the domain name. However, these were high traffic sites and I had put alot of work into them and so I still doubt this would work as a general rule.

But I suppose the main thing to come out of this thread is the fear that an amateurish, ill-prepared, ill-conceived system should become synonymous with the TV extension. Only DMs incompetence prevents this being a greater danger.

IMO you understand (and I have been the most devoted of me.tv devotees in the past).

 

[eyedomainous]

Hull and others(myself as well) are concerned because me.tv is promoted as one of the main tv based platforms.
At first i thought it was good to put one of my domains me.tv and gain some traffic, after a while i thought its better to get my best domains out of that platform because it ruins my premium domains brand. They all look the same and they all make you think this is a myspace thing.

TV Domains ARE NOT MYSPACE PROFILES. Me.tv promotes them as myspace profiles and that makes me think a lot because even if my potential market doesnt come from people around the age of 14-22 it still ruins the tv domain usage.

Endusers will come after my tv domains no matter what i have on them BUT other people that used to invest in dot com and now want to taste some dot tv will see the me.tv's and think this is a domain that is like myspace or video blogs.

dotTV, like TV itself, is a player in all arenas. Of course putting the right 'player'/name/program in the right arena at the right time is what tv programming is all about.

Your domain/site profile pretty much determines the user/viewer profiles it attracts. There is so much talk about "end users" and very little about (end) viewers. Normally, in TV you have to get the viewers if you want to get the buyers/end users/advertisers to 'buy in' to a show/network/.tv domain.

To be honest I am befuddled that folks think that attracting an audience on Me.TV will somehow scare away 'end users', ruin the domain name, ruin the .TV image, and be a 'clone' site and so on. Yet some of the same folks have .TV domains on video-less Parking pages that actually DO have all those negatives... without the 'viewer profiles'... otherwise known as demographics... which drive advertising... where the MySpace demographic is one of the most sought after by advertisers.

I think it is flawed for other reasons too: the whole idea of doing a quick grab of someone else's work is, to me at least (OK I'm an old-fashioned creative), somewhat distasteful. It encapsulates the current malaise of internet-laziness. So we don't need to develop our .TVs, we just grab a few YT vids. We just use someone else's work. So what? I want to see something gorgeous and thought-provoking from a .TV site. The extension has to say 'cutting-edge/inspiration/unique experience' not 'lazy clone'.

Its called content syndication and programming. Blogs do it heavy. Radio does it big time. Newspapers too. Even museums do it with the finest art. No art musuem produced ANY of the art they have, including video art, so does that make them "somewhat distasteful". I see myself as a producer AND a TV programmer (video curator) of the best content I can find. I get emails from viewers saying things like "that is a beautiful collection of videos". Viewers like it because it gives variety and choice and they do not have the time to go to all the video sites (and Me.TV pulls from a lot sites other than 'YT') to find the handful of gems that appeal to them.

 

[Rogor]

I, for one, would like to see me.tv become, as it was intended to be, a positive link in the .tv evolution, and I'm not invested nearly as heavily as many of you here. I agree that there is a danger of me.tv's image being percieved as sophmoric. At the same time, I have interest from a local music store that is coveting that demographic, it's a good fit. It will surely get a younger crowd to their primary site.
It seems that the shortcomings should be fixable.
Maybe we could start a Wish list thread. Couldn't hurt. I'll start-
1) More flexible design options, to enable professional quality and original design. I'd like to be able to use my code and their space and server side apps. or at least edit the CSS.
I hope this is reaching the powers that be, because the views in this thread actually represent the Good Guys, got your back, we want you to succeed. Big time.

 

[eyedomainous]

I, for one, would like to see me.tv become, as it was intended to be, a positive link in the .tv evolution, and I'm not invested nearly as heavily as many of you here. I agree that there is a danger of me.tv's image being percieved as sophmoric. At the same time, I have interest from a local music store that is coveting that demographic, it's a good fit. It will surely get a younger crowd to their primary site.
It seems that the shortcomings should be fixable.
Maybe we could start a Wish list thread. Couldn't hurt. I'll start-
1) More flexible design options, to enable professional quality and original design. I'd like to be able to use my code and their space and server side apps. or at least edit the CSS.
I hope this is reaching the powers that be, because the views in this thread actually represent the Good Guys, got your back, we want you to succeed. Big time.

I think Rich Rosenblatt's history with MySpace has folks looking at Me.TV with myspace demographic blinders on. In my view, the global demographic... of folks who will be wanting a domain and a website who happen to live in developing countries... Russia, China, South America, Africa, etc., is where the Me.TV platform will do quite well.

The "Me!, Me!, Me!" (pun intended) western mentality is painful to see. Its not ALL about us and 'our (professional dotTV) needs'. Me.TV is the 'platform of least resistance' and my guess is many tens of thousands of folks in the rest of the world will get their online feet wet with a Me.TV domain/site in the near future. This is good for .TV (unless you want them to go to the .com, or their country code, camp).

Developed countries have high web penetration levels, 70% in the U.S.. (this is the '.com web'). Future growth will be dominated by developing countries... (this could be the .TV web). Since the developing world population dwarfs the developed world... we want a dog in this fight. IMO.

As far as a "wish list" goes... perhaps Me.TV would consider sub-contracting, or outsourcing', web 2.0 hosting, template design and all to firms that can offer industry standard features, and can make their money from 'premium services'. $24.95 would be the basic domain/hosting package... but why not offer other, more advanced, hosting packages?