.mobi I saw a commercial last night that concerned me...

[malwj4atm]

Last night (during American Idol, I think).... I saw a commercial for IPhone and in the commercial, they were showing you how easy it is to pull up websites on an IPhone.

The first website that they used to demonstrate this feature was a mobi site (zagat.mobi) and I was so thrilled (mobi exposure!!), BUT then the finger on the commercial tapped the screen of the IPhone to show how quickly the user can pull up a completely different website. They chose to use the JetBlue website for this, which was a .COM site!! (What!?? I used TIVO to back up and freeze on the tv screenshot just to be sure it said .com and not .mobi. It did.)

So, why will .mobi be needed if .com can be used????

And, I was JUST getting all excited about the potential future value of a few of the .mobi's that I owned. ={ Is anyone else concerned or am I misunderstanding the point of the mobi?

 

[cityforums.com]

I think .TV would be great extension for mobile ... possible BETTER than .mobi for some domains ... afterall what is the iphone but a small TV.

 

[garrett200]

The whole thing that everyone is debating here, whether this extension is "useful" or not, may not even matter in the end.

Slowly but surely, .mobi is starting to be associated with the mobile web, and useful sites are being produced that give the user what they are looking for.

The user doesn't care about all this techie stuff that we sit here and debate about. If they get a site they like and can use, and it happens to be a .mobi, that is going to stick in their head the next time they go use the mobile web.

When the general public gets it in their head that .mobi = mobile web, the extension is going to be a huge success. Small screen/large screen, mobile compliant/non-mobile compliant, safari browser/other browser, none of it is going to matter.

I think MTLD probably knew this going in. If they can somehow get this into the world conciousness, it is going to be a success no matter what.

If it's no longer "useful" under the original restrictions that MTLD set up, they'll just drop the requirements.

.net and .org are still around, despite their original purposes being a distant memory by now. I really don't think this is going to be any different. .Mobi is here to stay regardless of what the technology does.

 

[mjnels]

And finally, bowing out of the debate, I rest my case.

Because the above is the whole point of 'general web access v's going to a .mobi instead'. Damn cool to render a full page .com readable, yes it is, and I know from personal experience, simple, free, easily browsable too. I visit and read here (the .com version) mostly from my phone.

Unfortunately for us.

no, the whole point is both.. you are thinking about this as the full web vs. the mobile web.... that really doesnt even involve the .mobi TLD specifically.

you need to be able to access all the full sized web pages AND when people get over the "wow factor" that you can actually access the web on a mobile device, there is going to be mobile innovation.... websites SUITED for the small screen.

zooming and scrolling from side to side - reminds me of most of the cheesy clip-art websites of the 90's.

i know from personal experience as well... i have an iphone.

 

[drjeff]

Lets be realistic ...

ANY domain - dotcom, dotnet, dotmobi, ANY EXTENSION, can have a website optimized to view in a mobile phone.

Dot Com is like living in a fantastic penthouse apartment ina highrise overlooking Central Park in New York City.

Dot-anything-else is anywhere between living in a tent to living in the bottom floor of that highrise.

Sure, you can live in a tent, and get along nicely.

And your website at .mobi can work well too.

BUT - most people would rather live in luxury and have the dot com name.

My 2 cents worth

 

[mjnels]

there is often 2 separate arguments going on without people even realizing it half the time.. people get a bit confused.

they say "we dont need .mobi because browsers that allow you to access full web pages exist"

if a person feels that way, that should not be the argument.... it should be "we dont need ANYTHING optimized for the mobile web because its possible to access the full sized page."



the issue of the .mobi TLD itself is totally separate... arguing that .mobi is obsolete because its made-for-small-screen is a bad argument.. that carries with it the notion that all websites made for a small screen are now obsolete whether they are on .com, .net .whatever (and yes the iphone has a small screen)

..and this is clearly not the trend.

 

[meegwell]

there is often 2 separate arguments going on without people even realizing it half the time.. people get a bit confused.

they say "we dont need .mobi because browsers that allow you to access full web pages exist"

if a person feels that way, that should not be the argument.... it should be "we dont need ANYTHING optimized for the mobile web because its possible to access the full sized page."



the issue of the .mobi TLD itself is totally separate... arguing that .mobi is obsolete because its made-for-small-screen is a bad argument.. that carries with it the notion that all websites made for a small screen are now obsolete whether they are on .com, .net .whatever (and yes the iphone has a small screen)

..and this is clearly not the trend.

sorry all but this is nicely said, and two very good points most always overlooked.

 

[davieboy]

Oh gosh, I said I was bowing out of the debate on my own, well debated already, views on here. But I hope you don't mind if I just ask a few responses to clarify what the responses after mean ? I'm confused by some of them that's all.

net and .org are still around, despite their original purposes being a distant memory by now. I really don't think this is going to be any different. .Mobi is here to stay regardless of what the technology does.

Yes, I also am hoping so. I got some really nice LLL's and a lot of nice keyword rich (mobile related) .mobi's. So, yes, I'm optimistic about that !!!

you need to be able to access all the full sized web pages AND when people get over the "wow factor" that you can actually access the web on a mobile device, there is going to be mobile innovation.... websites SUITED for the small screen.zooming and scrolling from side to side - reminds me of most of the cheesy clip-art websites of the 90's.

i know from personal experience as well... i have an iphone.

Well, you either need to set your i-phone settings as 'fit to page' while browsing. Or download a free java mobile internet browser. No zooming or side to side scrolling required. Honestly. It's not a mysticical thing this 'no side scrolling or having to zoom'. All the mobile browsers do it. Or read the first post I did on this thread quoting the mom's on their i-phones and nokia's. They were reading and viewing a forum just like this one, shoutbox, profiles, avatars and all.

Have you tried doing or downloading any of the above ?

if a person feels that way, that should not be the argument.... it should be "we dont need ANYTHING optimized for the mobile web because its possible to access the full sized page."

Well, I'm not quite sure at all by this post but on first glance it seems totally contradictory. "we dont need ANYTHING optimized for the mobile web because its possible to access the full sized page".

Yes it is. And ?

Sorry for butting in again. But the responses were pretty confusing. :td:

*makes note to scramble reg details as is absolutely sure no-one wants me posting here again*

 

[thebiffenator]

I kind of hate these argument threads, but here we go.....


Any other extention is worthless to .com (period) A dot com can do anything a .us, .asia, .cn, .tv and .mobi can do!

Argument over!


Question though, what advantage does a .org have over .info, or what advantage does a .mobi have over a .info or what advantage does a .com have over all the rest! .Com is King and we all know that..... They are only extentions.....some serve countries, some serve the world...... and some serve mobile phones......

To tell you the truth, I find .TV useless along with some CC's (only because a .com can do that also), but I still have them and never argue against it.

Whats happening now is different channels (almost like present cable....if you want to watch animals, go to the animal planet channel, if you want to see sports, then go to ESPN, if you want to shopping, then go to QVC)

My point is that, the future is here, and the internet has different channels now for people! Is that so bad or wrong? (It's technology and pioneering!!!)

-Biff

 

[NewWorldArk]

For Some, it's all they'll ever know. (the bmw.com/Luxury Sedan)

http://www.bmw.com/

For Others, it's just a whole new world (the bmw.mobi/Sports Coupe)

http://www.bmw.mobi

from BMW's point of View,

and for Most of those that support dotMobi.

Their Both Needed.

 

[mjnels]

Well, you either need to set your i-phone settings as 'fit to page' while browsing. Or download a free java mobile internet browser. No zooming or side to side scrolling required. Honestly. It's not a mysticical thing this 'no side scrolling or having to zoom'. All the mobile browsers do it. Or read the first post I did on this thread quoting the mom's on their i-phones and nokia's. They were reading and viewing a forum just like this one, shoutbox, profiles, avatars and all.

Have you tried doing or downloading any of the above ?



Well, I'm not quite sure at all by this post but on first glance it seems totally contradictory. "we dont need ANYTHING optimized for the mobile web because its possible to access the full sized page".

Yes it is. And ?

Sorry for butting in again. But the responses were pretty confusing. :td:

*makes note to scramble reg details as is absolutely sure no-one wants me posting here again*

lol... all iphones work the same dude.

you have missed the entire point of what i was saying... i know it is too deep for some to wrap their head around.

 

[GeoOwners]

bingo...small, easy apps will be where mobi ends up...except those few large corps