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Hey!

Before I knew the rules I bought domains with no value, so I'm in loss, maybe that's the reason why I feel I can't make much money doing this.

Don't know, I am learning but it feels like in 2017 all domains with some value are registered and if you are trying to catch some expired, there is list of others that are waitin for this oppurtunity.

Any words that could cheer me up... please?
How much in loss have you ever been, did you buy domain for example for $100 and you couldn't sell it? (Sorry for asking this I just feel I need to :D ...)

Thanks! :D
 
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Sometimes it takes years for a domain name to sell

First and foremost: domaining is a marathon.

I have been doing this for years and I still buy garbage sometimes

Don't buy/reg anything in hurry

All great advice and truisms. As I posted in another thread, last night I let go of about 100 dot coms, a few of which I had for ten years. Tried my best to move them but many were names I should have never regged in the first place. Let the bad names go (do not re-register when they expire) and spend that money on names you have spent some time thinking about and researching for potential end users. On average, a day, I hand register about 3 names and look on this site and auctions for others I want...there are plenty of good names out there. Use this site as a learning tool...there are many members here that will offer good and free advice. Search out registrars that have good pricing on features you may want (free privacy, free or cheap email, etc.) as well as sale prices on different domain extensions (gdaddy has a few right now) that can save you money. Good luck!
 
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Look one of the most important things you must have is determination to never give up and believe me there is going to be lots of time that you will want to give up.

That being said cheer up there also will be lots of time's that you will do great and feel like your on top of the world and can do this forever.
I remember some time ago when i still didn't know a nickel about buying and selling domains i was searching for expired domains and bought pornxpic.com and 2 other because they were in popular industries i put the 3 in auction has bundle on flippa but the title of the auction was just one domain didn't know how to change it to portfolio or bundle i was positive that it would sell and i really made a sale i think i sold them for 40$. A week or 2 passed and i learned about namebio did a search for pornxpic.com found out that it sold for 480$ in the past i got a little disappointed that i sold it for so cheap but at the same time got encouraged and thought that flipping domains was real easy so i bought another domain took a loss of 80$ lol just little proof that some times you just have to follow your intuition and have a bit of luck but never have over confidence.

From my experience you have to decide if you want to buy and sell domains has a hobby or has a profitable business. If you want to flip domains for a hobby you don't have any pressure you can have a job and invest in domains for the long run, if you want to become professional and profitable business in the domain industrie you have to spend all of your time living and breathing domains you also need big capital to play with real money. Has the old saying goes "If you want to make good money you have to spend good money".

The most basic and important steps you have to know are:

Never give up

In the domain world you need LOTS of patience.

Don't quite your job you also will need capital (maybe in the future when you have experience and good money from domaning you can go to your boss stick him the middle finger and quite if is a jerk of a boss xD if he was a good boss be polite and thank him for all the opportunities he gave you and tell him that you quite)

You need to do research and educate yourself even if you have 20 years in domaining you are always learning new things also the market changes every day and the more information the better.

Try to build your presence in the domain world the more people that you do business with that are satisfied and have positive feedback and good things to say about you doing business with them the more people it attract's because word gets around fast and they will feel more secure in doing business with you.

Always be polite and professional.

Never register trademark names and inform yourself about trademarks.

You need practice, knowledge and time to develop a intuition and understanding of what is a great domain and what it's worth.

Decide a strategy by trying many of them and see which one his best for you, example do you want to sell domains for cheap but fast, do you want to invest in the long term and wait for offers, do you want to do outbound sales etc..

Stay updated on coupons and subscribe to newsletters of informative domain website like domaining.com to keep updated

There are lots of areas inside the domain business focus on one example brandables, 4 letters, 1 word, IDN, new TLDs etc...

Try all the marketplaces and see which one is best for the type of domain your selling or buying.

Research all resources and tools like Namepros, Domainshearpa.com Dnjournal.com, Domaining.com, Namebio.com, Namejet.com, Estibot.com Efty.com Expireddomains.net, Domainsatate.com Dngeek.com and much more just educate yourself,

Other domainers also posted great advice and feedback in this thread follow there advice.

Hope this help's a bit.
 
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firstly you have to make up your mind,
if you want to be a daytrader or a value investor

For me there is no point in making 100% on a $20 USD name

there are costs attached other then the domain buying price

like:
transaction fees
commission fees
bookkeeping fees
tax fees
laywer fees
tools fees
your TIME

As a rule of thumb I will not keep a name that is worth less then $1k USD
unless for liquid assets like 4l.com

why are 99% of the domainers loosing money?
( IF that is a true statement - which nobody can verify)

because you are not looking for a high ROI
that covers your costs of doing it losing money for years
 
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Well said. An old mentor once told me, "I really hate working, and I really hate working for nothing"
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I hand registered DNRocks.com, a couple of days ago. Made a blog on it, planning to write articles on it now.
I think that's a decent name rather than buying a premium domain for a blog that may or may not work.
Btw:
OldStreetBarber.com is available, I hand registered it yesterday and then cancelled today.
So, decent names still out there.
 
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regged on 7th feb 2017:

FundABetterFuture.com
JustWeCan.com
FunShirtz.com
SlimAb.com

and the day before:

NauticalDrone.com
 
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Develop your names into blogs and perhaps you can sell it for a profit. No name is crap. If you have an idea and a plan, you can make a profit. Even the best domain portfolios have some lousy names which will never ever sell.
 
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i only get names i can visualize myself using for a site/idea. If you cant envision it no one else will either
 
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even i cant make money here
 
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thats what u said
 
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You have to ask yourself, how do people make money on real estate or land? That is how I see domain names.

Every piece of real estate is unique.
You can spend a lot of money for a small condo in New York City,
or you can spend very little money on a large land in the middle of nowhere.

You can buy an empty lot and develop it into a mall,
or you can buy a house when the market is down, then sell it when the prices go up.

People make money on real estate everyday, you just have to find your niche.
 
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Hey!

Before I knew the rules I bought domains with no value, so I'm in loss, maybe that's the reason why I feel I can't make much money doing this.

Don't know, I am learning but it feels like in 2017 all domains with some value are registered and if you are trying to catch some expired, there is list of others that are waitin for this oppurtunity.

Any words that could cheer me up... please?
How much in loss have you ever been, did you buy domain for example for $100 and you couldn't sell it? (Sorry for asking this I just feel I need to :D ...)

Thanks! :D
Mostly all domains with any value have been registered for a long time.. Don't get hung up on hand registering crap domains. Pick up good quality .com, .net, .co and .io for example, through expiring auctions.

There's lots of pieces to the puzzle, buying good domains is one of the pieces, being able to sell domains is another.

You gotta work to sell domains, you gotta want the money, put in the time. You need to reach out to let people know your domains for sale and where it is for sale. I use afternic to sell names... I point the DNS to afternic buy it now pages (ex. mediastall.com ). I use nameserver.io to create nameservers to point my domains. Then I make sure to add a buy it now price and they get added to the afternic premium network where they are listed at hundreds of other registrars. Figure out what works for you, but you gotta grind, when your tired of grinding, you gotta grind harder. Or you can sit and wait for years to sell your names.
 
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There is a pretty steep learning curb when you first start. I started back in 2014 and didnt sale 1 domain. I decided in January of this year to try it again. I like what winst said in regard to real estate and domains. I buy domains to sale to end buyers so I send out a lot of emails but I am getting great results. Figure out what types of domains you want to buy. Keep reading these forums as I learn new things here all the time. If your selling to end buyers that means you have to put the time in to be successful.
 
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Mostly all domains with any value have been registered for a long time.


that really is utter nonsense

think of drones
of self driving cars
and flying cars

all related domains have been hand regged only shortly

today you may think of
land on mars / moon
or properties deep in the ocean


and think of new companies
that need a name for their business
 
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listen to the pro, or do whatever works for you. My 8 years in the industry have shown me its best to invest in solid domains with sale history that many would benefit from owning. Guess my years of experience and my annual $xx,xxx - $xxx,xxx income from domaining is nonsense... END
 
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listen to the pro, or do whatever works for you. My 8 years in the industry have shown me its best to invest in solid domains with sale history that many would benefit from owning. Guess my years of experience and my annual $xx,xxx - $xxx,xxx income from domaining is nonsense... END


WoW

so you must be right then
 
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I personally own 300 names but 3 or 4 names in that portfolio are worth their weight in gold....which I could have reverse about half my names. If you want to feel good about your names go to namebio.com and see what sold yesterday....for example 653333.com sold for $4400.....just when i was thinking of dropping my 6 number.com

We wrote an article on 10 common mistakes noobs make when selling
https://news.toughdomains.com/2016/03/25/1o-makes-new-domain-buyers-make/
 
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