I bought Little.com and stolen!

[SungChan]

Hello,




I bought Little.com domain name and the seller pushed the domain name into my NetworkSolutions account.

And yesterday I tried to access my Networksolutions account but is has denied to access.

the password is changed.




And the whois information has changed.




My domain name is stolen.




Please help me. please please....




That is all I have... My whole money...







Please help me...







Me and the seller's e-mails as follow;





capsule <[email protected]>


2월 13일








jlittle에게
























Hello.




Can I buy your domain name?




Thanks










내 삼성 디바이스에서 보냈습니다















답장

전달




















John Little
Hello $49k. Regards John Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2016 at 7:17 AM From: c...

3월 6일 (10일 전)




Hello $49k. Regards John Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2016 at 7:17 AM From: c...













John Little 3월 6일 (10일 전)



로드 중...













John Little


3월 6일 (10일 전)








나에게

















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Hello




$49k.




Regards

John











Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2016 at 7:17 AM
From: capsule <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Little.com









Hello.




Can I buy your domain name?




Thanks










내 삼성 디바이스에서 보냈습니다
























답장

전달























Capsule
Thanks for your answer. Can you accept USD 15k? Thanks. 2016년 3월 6일 일요일, John...

3월 6일 (10일 전)




Thanks for your answer. Can you accept USD 15k? Thanks. 2016년 3월 6일 일요일, John...













Capsule 3월 6일 (10일 전)



로드 중...













Capsule <[email protected]>


3월 6일 (10일 전)








John에게






















Thanks for your answer.




Can you accept USD 15k?




Thanks.





2016년 3월 6일 일요일, John Little<[email protected]>님이 작성한 메시지:










Hello




$49k.




Regards

John











Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2016 at 7:17 AM
From: capsule <[email protected]>
To: "John Little" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Little.com









Thanks for your answer.




Can you accept USD 15k?




Thanks.





2016년 3월 6일 일요일, John Little<[email protected]>님이 작성한 메시지:


Hello




Sorry, it's too cheap for one-word dot com.




I can slightly decrease the price for a quick deal.




Regards

John











Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2016 at 6:33 PM
From: Capsule <[email protected]>님이 작성한 메시지:


Hello




Sorry, it's too cheap for one-word dot com.




I can slightly decrease the price for a quick deal.




Regards

John











Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2016 at 6:33 PM
From: Capsule <[email protected]>
To: "John Little" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Little.com


Hello Sir,




Please reply me.




I'm a motivated buyer .




Thank you.























답장

전달





















Capsule
Ok deal. How would you like to proceed? Thanks. 2016년 3월 7일 월요일, John Little<...

3월 7일 (9일 전)




Ok deal. How would you like to proceed? Thanks. 2016년 3월 7일 월요일, John Little<...













Capsule 3월 7일 (9일 전)



로드 중...













Capsule <[email protected]>


3월 7일 (9일 전)








John에게





















Ok deal.



How would you like to proceed?




Thanks.



2016년 3월 7일 월요일, John Little<[email protected]>님이 작성한 메시지:










Hello




Let's do a deal at $33,000.




If it's agreeable to you, we can complete the deal next week.




Regards

John











Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2016 at 5:52 PM
From: Capsule <https://www.networksolutions.com/domain-transfer/index.jsp




The second one is an external transfer to another registrar, for example GoDaddy. I'll tell you an authorization code for it.




How domain escrow works




https://www.escrow.com/services/domain-and-website-escrow/how-domain-escrow-works/




Regards
John





Sent: Monday, March 07, 2016 at 12:08 AM



From: Capsule <[email protected]>
To: "John Little" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Little.com

Ok deal.



How would you like to proceed?




Thanks.



2016년 3월 7일 월요일, John Little<[email protected]>님이 작성한 메시지:


Hello




The first option is an internal transfer between Network Solutions account. It's free and almost immediately.




https://www.networksolutions.com/domain-transfer/index.jsp




The second one is an external transfer to another registrar, for example GoDaddy. I'll tell you an authorization code for it.




How domain escrow works




https://www.escrow.com/services/domain-and-website-escrow/how-domain-escrow-works/




Regards
John





Sent: Monday, March 07, 2016 at 12:08 AM
From: Capsule <[email protected]>님이 작성한 메시지:









Ok I'll take the first option.




Thank you.





2016년 3월 7일 월요일, John Little<https://www.networksolutions.com/domain-transfer/index.jsp




The second one is an external transfer to another registrar, for example GoDaddy. I'll tell you an authorization code for it.




How domain escrow works




https://www.escrow.com/services/domain-and-website-escrow/how-domain-escrow-works/




Regards
John





Sent: Monday, March 07, 2016 at 12:08 AM
From: Capsule <[email protected]>님이 작성한 메시지:

Do you have any other one word. Com domains?




Thanks.





2016년 3월 7일 월요일, Capsule<https://www.networksolutions.com/domain-transfer/index.jsp




The second one is an external transfer to another registrar, for example GoDaddy. I'll tell you an authorization code for it.




How domain escrow works




https://www.escrow.com/services/domain-and-website-escrow/how-domain-escrow-works/




Regards
John





Sent: Monday, March 07, 2016 at 12:08 AM
From: Capsule <escrow.com?

I have nothing more to sell.

Regards
John


Sent: Monday, March 07, 2016 at 8:34 AM








From: Capsule <[email protected]>
To: "John Little" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Little.com








Ok I'll take the first option.




Thank you.





2016년 3월 7일 월요일, John Little<https://www.networksolutions.com/domain-transfer/index.jsp




The second one is an external transfer to another registrar, for example GoDaddy. I'll tell you an authorization code for it.




How domain escrow works




https://www.escrow.com/services/domain-and-website-escrow/how-domain-escrow-works/




Regards
John





Sent: Monday, March 07, 2016 at 12:08 AM
From: Capsule <[email protected]>님이 작성한 메시지:








Hello

Ok, that's good. Have you sent the payment to escrow.com?

I have nothing more to sell.

Regards
John


Sent: Monday, March 07, 2016 at 8:34 AM
From: Capsule <https://www.networksolutions.com/domain-transfer/index.jsp




The second one is an external transfer to another registrar, for example GoDaddy. I'll tell you an authorization code for it.




How domain escrow works




https://www.escrow.com/services/domain-and-website-escrow/how-domain-escrow-works/




Regards
John





Sent: Monday, March 07, 2016 at 12:08 AM
From: Capsule <[email protected]>님이 작성한 메시지:









Payment has been sent.

International wire-transfer takes 1-3 business days.

Thanks.





2016년 3월 8일 화요일, John Little<escrow.com?

I have nothing more to sell.

Regards
John


Sent: Monday, March 07, 2016 at 8:34 AM
From: Capsule <https://www.networksolutions.com/domain-transfer/index.jsp




The second one is an external transfer to another registrar, for example GoDaddy. I'll tell you an authorization code for it.




How domain escrow works




https://www.escrow.com/services/domain-and-website-escrow/how-domain-escrow-works/




Regards
John





Sent: Monday, March 07, 2016 at 12:08 AM
From: Capsule <[email protected]>님이 작성한 메시지:

I'm pretty sure that the funds will arrive in the Escrow.com.




Once the Escrow.com approves my payment, please push the domain name.




My Networksolutions.com Username is

sungchan




Thanks.





2016년 3월 8일 화요일, Capsule<escrow.com?

I have nothing more to sell.

Regards
John


Sent: Monday, March 07, 2016 at 8:34 AM
From: Capsule <https://www.networksolutions.com/domain-transfer/index.jsp




The second one is an external transfer to another registrar, for example GoDaddy. I'll tell you an authorization code for it.




How domain escrow works




https://www.escrow.com/services/domain-and-website-escrow/how-domain-escrow-works/




Regards
John





Sent: Monday, March 07, 2016 at 12:08 AM
From: Capsule <[email protected]>:

I'm pretty sure that the funds will arrive in the Escrow.com within today.








Once the Escrow.com approves my payment, please push the domain name.







My Networksolutions.com Username is




sungchan







Thanks.









2016년 3월 8일 화요일, Capsule<[email protected]>님이 작성한 메시지:

I'm pretty sure that the funds will arrive in the Escrow.com.




Once the Escrow.com approves my payment, please push the domain name.




My Networksolutions.com Username is

sungchan




Thanks.





2016년 3월 8일 화요일, Capsule<escrow.com?

I have nothing more to sell.

Regards
John


Sent: Monday, March 07, 2016 at 8:34 AM
From: Capsule <https://www.networksolutions.com/domain-transfer/index.jsp




The second one is an external transfer to another registrar, for example GoDaddy. I'll tell you an authorization code for it.




How domain escrow works




https://www.escrow.com/services/domain-and-website-escrow/how-domain-escrow-works/




Regards
John





Sent: Monday, March 07, 2016 at 12:08 AM
From: Capsule <networksolutions.com.




Please check your email and networksolutions.com account.




Thanks.





2016년 3월 9일 수요일, Capsule<[email protected]>님이 작성한 메시지:









OK! the Escrow.com approves my payment.




Please push the domain name to my Networksolutions account.




Username is



sungchan




And account number is 35107056




Thank you!







2016-03-08 19:52 GMT+09:00 Capsule <escrow.com?

I have nothing more to sell.

Regards
John


Sent: Monday, March 07, 2016 at 8:34 AM
From: Capsule <https://www.networksolutions.com/domain-transfer/index.jsp




The second one is an external transfer to another registrar, for example GoDaddy. I'll tell you an authorization code for it.




How domain escrow works




https://www.escrow.com/services/domain-and-website-escrow/how-domain-escrow-works/




Regards
John





Sent: Monday, March 07, 2016 at 12:08 AM
From: Capsule <[email protected]>
To: "John Little" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Little.com








I just initiated the domain's transfer within networksolutions.com.




Please check your email and networksolutions.com account.




Thanks.





2016년 3월 9일 수요일, Capsule<escrow.com?

I have nothing more to sell.

Regards
John

Sent: Monday, March 07, 2016 at 8:34 AM
From: Capsule <https://www.networksolutions.com/domain-transfer/index.jsp




The second one is an external transfer to another registrar, for example GoDaddy. I'll tell you an authorization code for it.




How domain escrow works




https://www.escrow.com/services/domain-and-website-escrow/how-domain-escrow-works/




Regards
John





Sent: Monday, March 07, 2016 at 12:08 AM
From: Capsule <[email protected]>님이 작성한 메시지:










Ok.




I wait for a transfer request from Network Solutions. Usually it takes a few hours.




Regards

John











Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2016 at 6:47 PM
From: Capsule <networksolutions.com.




Please check your email and networksolutions.com account.




Thanks.





2016년 3월 9일 수요일, Capsule<escrow.com?

I have nothing more to sell.

Regards
John

Sent: Monday, March 07, 2016 at 8:34 AM
From: Capsule <https://www.networksolutions.com/domain-transfer/index.jsp




The second one is an external transfer to another registrar, for example GoDaddy. I'll tell you an authorization code for it.




How domain escrow works




https://www.escrow.com/services/domain-and-website-escrow/how-domain-escrow-works/




Regards
John





Sent: Monday, March 07, 2016 at 12:08 AM
From: Capsule <escrow.com is needed to complete the deal.




Regards

John








Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2016 at 6:31 AM








From: Capsule <[email protected]>
To: "John Little" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Little.com








Hello.




Please check your email regarding the transfer.




Thanks.





2016년 3월 9일 수요일, John Little<networksolutions.com.




Please check your email and networksolutions.com account.




Thanks.





2016년 3월 9일 수요일, Capsule<escrow.com?

I have nothing more to sell.

Regards
John

Sent: Monday, March 07, 2016 at 8:34 AM
From: Capsule <https://www.networksolutions.com/domain-transfer/index.jsp




The second one is an external transfer to another registrar, for example GoDaddy. I'll tell you an authorization code for it.




How domain escrow works




https://www.escrow.com/services/domain-and-website-escrow/how-domain-escrow-works/




Regards
John





Sent: Monday, March 07, 2016 at 12:08 AM
From: Capsule <[email protected]>님이 작성한 메시지:


Done.




Your confirmation at escrow.com is needed to complete the deal.




Regards

John








Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2016 at 6:31 AM
From: Capsule <networksolutions.com.




Please check your email and networksolutions.com account.




Thanks.





2016년 3월 9일 수요일, Capsule<escrow.com?

I have nothing more to sell.

Regards
John

Sent: Monday, March 07, 2016 at 8:34 AM
From: Capsule <https://www.networksolutions.com/domain-transfer/index.jsp




The second one is an external transfer to another registrar, for example GoDaddy. I'll tell you an authorization code for it.




How domain escrow works




https://www.escrow.com/services/domain-and-website-escrow/how-domain-escrow-works/




Regards
John





Sent: Monday, March 07, 2016 at 12:08 AM
From: Capsule <[email protected]>
To: "John Little" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Little.com

Ok deal.



How would you like to proceed?




Thanks.



2016년 3월 7일 월요일, John Little<[email protected]>님이 작성한 메시지:

Hello




Let's do a deal at $33,000.




If it's agreeable to you, we can complete the deal next week.




Regards

John











Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2016 at 5:52 PM
From: Capsule <[email protected]>
To: "John Little" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Little.com

Hello Sir,




Please reply me.




I'm a motivated buyer .




Thank you.




























답장

전달






















Capsule <[email protected]>


14:19 (2시간 전)








John에게






















Hello.




Can I refund the money for the domain?




Thanks

 

[TheLegendaryJP]

I'm here guys..

I'm very exhausted and hopeless...

Desperate. .

Besides some guys said I'm the scammer

And I don't have money for lawyer...

I'm finished. ....

So that's it, you're finished?

Can you share the escrow info, you say you paid John Little so feel free to PM me the escrow info.

I want to continue to give you the benefit of the doubt BUT you have to start helping yourself via proof.

 

[premkumar]

Better File a complaint both to Icaan about Netsol of their lack luster security and the money you lost becoz of them. 2. File a local police complaint and send copy to all the party Icann, netsol, escrow add netsol, escrow as criminal in police complaint. This will help you, may be in future if culprit caught you may get you money, even if not, in future netsol or escrow establish branch in your country, they may face music and try to solve / compensate you. Infact add Icaan also as criminal, becoz they allowed the Whois name transfer. This keep tab on all guys. I know a case in which CEO of billion dollar MLM was arrested for complaint of cheat for just $100. so just involved everyone who are party to the case and file police complaint against them.

Who knows the culprit may be a netsol employee( having access & knowledge of netsol security), so just go ahead and file complaint. If your country is big market like china, chance are their this people face music when they want to enter or start their business in your country. In that time, this complaint hunt them.

If you are real victim, in that case the above is one possible solution.

 

[alcy]

this thread is going nowhere, and you are doing nothin to help yourself.
I'm out of here.

if you are lying about this, I hope you get caught.
if you are not, then I hope you get your money back and they catch thief.

either way, good luck. you'll need it in both cases.

 

[SungChan]

Better File a complaint both to Icaan about Netsol of their lack luster security and the money you lost becoz of them. 2. File a local police complaint and send copy to all the party Icann, netsol, escrow add netsol, escrow as criminal in police complaint. This will help you, may be in future if culprit caught you may get you money, even if not, in future netsol or escrow establish branch in your country, they may face music and try to solve / compensate you. Infact add Icaan also as criminal, becoz they allowed the Whois name transfer. This keep tab on all guys. I know a case in which CEO of billion dollar MLM was arrested for complaint of cheat for just $100. so just involved everyone who are party to the case and file police complaint against them.

Who knows the culprit may be a netsol employee( having access & knowledge of netsol security), so just go ahead and file complaint. If your country is big market like china, chance are their this people face music when they want to enter or start their business in your country. In that time, this complaint hunt them.

If you are real victim, in that case the above is one possible solution.

Thanks for your advice.

 

[SungChan]

So that's it, you're finished?

Can you share the escrow info, you say you paid John Little so feel free to PM me the escrow info.

I want to continue to give you the benefit of the doubt BUT you have to start helping yourself via proof.

I sent you a PM.
Please check it out

 

[Abdullah Abdullah]

I am pretty sure there was no transaction. Both the buyer and the seller are of same group hence, no money moves outside the ring

Escrow.com rep did confirm that a transaction took place and that the buyer actually confirmed receiving the domain.

Now I think Escrow.com cant just share the Bank details of the seller unless there is court order or something in that regard so I think thw OP is screwed if indeed he is not already involved with the seller.

 

[NameFit]

This thread reeks of nothing but scam
1. We all sell names - do you think if you registered or bought a name today, you can find buyer within 3/4 days especially at this price of $33K? - there is no information as to where the purported buyer met the purported seller (purported thief)
2. OP says that buyer bought the name for $33K from 'all his savings' - really? Did the OP feel that deal was that good that he should put all his savings into this. There is no 'black market' for domains that we know exist . We all live in real world - and all domain sales are public.
3. We have not seen any proof pf escrow transaction, any site where domain was listed for sale, or any references to that.
4. People who buy $33K names do not come to NamePros - I can tell you that. Only domainers come to NamePros and domainers do not buy one name with all their savings.

At best, to me - it really sounds like 'If I did it"
or simply OP is trying to find out "how to do it"

 

[itsmeyall]

I kept wondering... Would this have been provented alltogether if the buyer simply had two factor authentication on his registrar account where name was held

 

[WhoaDomain.com]

you racist.

again. use the INTERNET PEOPLE! It's BEEN CALLED the NIGERIAN SCAM for years! Wanna call someone RACIST? go speak to the FBI. They Coined the TERM not me. It is MOST UNFORTUNATE for the NIGERIANS that this termed HAS BEEN COINED. Perhaps Nigerians should be more proactive about CATCHING these scammers who are EMBARRASSING their country by DOING SUCH SCAMS. although you can't really blame them because they are too busy trying to SURVIVE. is easy enough to drop comments without doing research. me racists? well if we are calling names. then You Childish. we can do this all DAY FOLKS.

again if this SCAM were started by my countrymen Filipinos. Then I'd have no problems calling this the Filipino Scam. PERIOD let's quit getting off topic and stick to this thread. I still believe this thread is "shady" I hate thinking this so someone please prove me wrong with concrete proof. Thanks.

 

[WhoaDomain.com]

do y'all not see the red flags here. its a con.. how can you afford to pay 33k for a domain but can't afford a lawyer.

EXACTLY!!!! Mr. Smith? I've been getting alot of slack lately on my comment with the "nigerian scam". do you take offense to this mention of the nigerian scam and how this looks like one? Your honest opinion is appreciated it. Thanks.

 

[WhoaDomain.com]

about the name... so does it mean that Chinese investing in real words?

I sent you a PM.
Please check it out

OH BOY HERE WE GO! OFF THREAD CONVERSATIONS VIA PM?!?!?!?!
here we go!

 

[RU]

OH BOY HERE WE GO! OFF THREAD CONVERSATIONS VIA PM?!?!?!?!
here we go!

i didnt receive any pms

 

[WhoaDomain.com]

i didnt receive any pms

but did you SEND any PMS? lol that IS the question. lol just becareful friend.

 

[WhoaDomain.com]

if it starts like "Hello Friend, I am the daughter of a Nigerian Politician who owned a bankrupted Gold mine. My father secretly kept $400 million in his account and I'd like your help transfer these funds overseas.Please deposit $100 in this account and I will give you $1 million dollars. as a Thank you. Will you assist?" yadda yadda yadda. lol

 

[DNScholar]

So what is the conclusion? where is the domain now.

 

[WhoaDomain.com]

yes exactly what happened?

 

[RU]

but did you SEND any PMS? lol that IS the question. lol just becareful friend.

lol i mean PMs (private messages)

 

[Silentptnr]

Sounds like the real John Little is quite successful and clearly owned Little.com, not to mention John.com for over 20 years.

Second, in my opinion, OP has failed to provide clear documentation and clear, detailed explanation of EXACTLY what happened. The email thread provided was very weak and unclear.

These matters should be easy to clearly document including the phone calls that supposedly occurred.

Not sure what really happened and I'm a pretty bright guy, but I don't see this thread really going anywhere.

Looks like the domains are with their rightful owner. It is also clear that the real John Little did not knowingly sell his domain and did not receive any money from OP.

That means that OP has to take their case to the parties involved and law enforcement. End of story.

 

[Kate]

Bottom line: it's high time to contact a lawyer, preferably one that is familiar with domain name issues. People like Berry-Hill or Brett Lewis.
Disclaimer: haven't done business with either, not a recommendation but a suggestion.
Unless JP is willing to take on the case. But more details will be needed.

 

[Domain Galleria]

When you see a flag like this, take to your heels. This is just to draw attention of few good Samaritans who will then be introduced to a mega business in the name of compensating them for being there when they were needed. Will you be able to resist the juicy bait coming your way in form of reward?
Act 1 scene 1: Arrange a transaction and find a way of bringing escrow in to make it look legit.
Act 1 scene 2. Go to Namepros and appeal to members emotions and pick needed targets
Act 2 scene 1. Offer juicy business opportunities to selected target in the name of rewards
Act 2 scene 2 Victims see better biz opportunities and swallow bait - and ended up losing money and left to lick their wounds.

At the end of all acts and scenes, victims come back to Namepros to recount their ordeals and possibly have a thread that would become the most popular for several weeks.

This remains my assumption until OP proves otherwise.

 

[Silentptnr]

If anybody solve this problem, I'll pay the commission..

Thank you... Please help me...

Hmmm. No money for lawyer, but will pay commission? Seems weird. Not saying this didn't happen, but very weird set of circumstances.

 

[TRY]

again. use the INTERNET PEOPLE! It's BEEN CALLED the NIGERIAN SCAM for years! Wanna call someone RACIST? go speak to the FBI. They Coined the TERM not me. It is MOST UNFORTUNATE for the NIGERIANS that this termed HAS BEEN COINED. Perhaps Nigerians should be more proactive about CATCHING these scammers who are EMBARRASSING their country by DOING SUCH SCAMS. although you can't really blame them because they are too busy trying to SURVIVE. is easy enough to drop comments without doing research. me racists? well if we are calling names. then You Childish. we can do this all DAY FOLKS.

again if this SCAM were started by my countrymen Filipinos. Then I'd have no problems calling this the Filipino Scam. PERIOD let's quit getting off topic and stick to this thread. I still believe this thread is "shady" I hate thinking this so someone please prove me wrong with concrete proof. Thanks.

ABC did a news documentary titled "Nigerian Scams"...in America the phrase was popularized by the media.

 

[eurorealtor]

How could someone possible think domain like this would sell for low $xx,xxx?
I have skipped most of the pages in this thread so excuse me if I missed something important.

 

[ComboNames]

So let me get this , if I own the domain name BUY.com which cost a lot , and then ask hire someone (or just do it myself) to create a new account on my registrar and act like they stole it from me , and then sell it to someone , as many here replied ESCROW won't help the buyer after getting the money , also NS won't be a help either , so I can just pretend that my domain is stolen so they give it back to me , and the buyer need to hire a lawyer and try to sue that virtual seller ?!

 

[bRionZ]

I wish this will end asap. dont ever stolen again sir.