I bought Little.com and stolen!

[SungChan]

Hello,




I bought Little.com domain name and the seller pushed the domain name into my NetworkSolutions account.

And yesterday I tried to access my Networksolutions account but is has denied to access.

the password is changed.




And the whois information has changed.




My domain name is stolen.




Please help me. please please....




That is all I have... My whole money...







Please help me...







Me and the seller's e-mails as follow;





capsule <[email protected]>


2월 13일








jlittle에게
























Hello.




Can I buy your domain name?




Thanks










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John Little
Hello $49k. Regards John Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2016 at 7:17 AM From: c...

3월 6일 (10일 전)




Hello $49k. Regards John Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2016 at 7:17 AM From: c...













John Little 3월 6일 (10일 전)



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John Little


3월 6일 (10일 전)








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Hello




$49k.




Regards

John











Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2016 at 7:17 AM
From: capsule <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Little.com









Hello.




Can I buy your domain name?




Thanks










내 삼성 디바이스에서 보냈습니다
























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Capsule
Thanks for your answer. Can you accept USD 15k? Thanks. 2016년 3월 6일 일요일, John...

3월 6일 (10일 전)




Thanks for your answer. Can you accept USD 15k? Thanks. 2016년 3월 6일 일요일, John...













Capsule 3월 6일 (10일 전)



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Capsule <[email protected]>


3월 6일 (10일 전)








John에게






















Thanks for your answer.




Can you accept USD 15k?




Thanks.





2016년 3월 6일 일요일, John Little<[email protected]>님이 작성한 메시지:










Hello




$49k.




Regards

John











Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2016 at 7:17 AM
From: capsule <[email protected]>
To: "John Little" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Little.com









Thanks for your answer.




Can you accept USD 15k?




Thanks.





2016년 3월 6일 일요일, John Little<[email protected]>님이 작성한 메시지:


Hello




Sorry, it's too cheap for one-word dot com.




I can slightly decrease the price for a quick deal.




Regards

John











Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2016 at 6:33 PM
From: Capsule <[email protected]>님이 작성한 메시지:


Hello




Sorry, it's too cheap for one-word dot com.




I can slightly decrease the price for a quick deal.




Regards

John











Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2016 at 6:33 PM
From: Capsule <[email protected]>
To: "John Little" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Little.com


Hello Sir,




Please reply me.




I'm a motivated buyer .




Thank you.























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Capsule
Ok deal. How would you like to proceed? Thanks. 2016년 3월 7일 월요일, John Little<...

3월 7일 (9일 전)




Ok deal. How would you like to proceed? Thanks. 2016년 3월 7일 월요일, John Little<...













Capsule 3월 7일 (9일 전)



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Capsule <[email protected]>


3월 7일 (9일 전)








John에게





















Ok deal.



How would you like to proceed?




Thanks.



2016년 3월 7일 월요일, John Little<[email protected]>님이 작성한 메시지:










Hello




Let's do a deal at $33,000.




If it's agreeable to you, we can complete the deal next week.




Regards

John











Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2016 at 5:52 PM
From: Capsule <https://www.networksolutions.com/domain-transfer/index.jsp




The second one is an external transfer to another registrar, for example GoDaddy. I'll tell you an authorization code for it.




How domain escrow works




https://www.escrow.com/services/domain-and-website-escrow/how-domain-escrow-works/




Regards
John





Sent: Monday, March 07, 2016 at 12:08 AM



From: Capsule <[email protected]>
To: "John Little" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Little.com

Ok deal.



How would you like to proceed?




Thanks.



2016년 3월 7일 월요일, John Little<[email protected]>님이 작성한 메시지:


Hello




The first option is an internal transfer between Network Solutions account. It's free and almost immediately.




https://www.networksolutions.com/domain-transfer/index.jsp




The second one is an external transfer to another registrar, for example GoDaddy. I'll tell you an authorization code for it.




How domain escrow works




https://www.escrow.com/services/domain-and-website-escrow/how-domain-escrow-works/




Regards
John





Sent: Monday, March 07, 2016 at 12:08 AM
From: Capsule <[email protected]>님이 작성한 메시지:









Ok I'll take the first option.




Thank you.





2016년 3월 7일 월요일, John Little<https://www.networksolutions.com/domain-transfer/index.jsp




The second one is an external transfer to another registrar, for example GoDaddy. I'll tell you an authorization code for it.




How domain escrow works




https://www.escrow.com/services/domain-and-website-escrow/how-domain-escrow-works/




Regards
John





Sent: Monday, March 07, 2016 at 12:08 AM
From: Capsule <[email protected]>님이 작성한 메시지:

Do you have any other one word. Com domains?




Thanks.





2016년 3월 7일 월요일, Capsule<https://www.networksolutions.com/domain-transfer/index.jsp




The second one is an external transfer to another registrar, for example GoDaddy. I'll tell you an authorization code for it.




How domain escrow works




https://www.escrow.com/services/domain-and-website-escrow/how-domain-escrow-works/




Regards
John





Sent: Monday, March 07, 2016 at 12:08 AM
From: Capsule <escrow.com?

I have nothing more to sell.

Regards
John


Sent: Monday, March 07, 2016 at 8:34 AM








From: Capsule <[email protected]>
To: "John Little" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Little.com








Ok I'll take the first option.




Thank you.





2016년 3월 7일 월요일, John Little<https://www.networksolutions.com/domain-transfer/index.jsp




The second one is an external transfer to another registrar, for example GoDaddy. I'll tell you an authorization code for it.




How domain escrow works




https://www.escrow.com/services/domain-and-website-escrow/how-domain-escrow-works/




Regards
John





Sent: Monday, March 07, 2016 at 12:08 AM
From: Capsule <[email protected]>님이 작성한 메시지:








Hello

Ok, that's good. Have you sent the payment to escrow.com?

I have nothing more to sell.

Regards
John


Sent: Monday, March 07, 2016 at 8:34 AM
From: Capsule <https://www.networksolutions.com/domain-transfer/index.jsp




The second one is an external transfer to another registrar, for example GoDaddy. I'll tell you an authorization code for it.




How domain escrow works




https://www.escrow.com/services/domain-and-website-escrow/how-domain-escrow-works/




Regards
John





Sent: Monday, March 07, 2016 at 12:08 AM
From: Capsule <[email protected]>님이 작성한 메시지:









Payment has been sent.

International wire-transfer takes 1-3 business days.

Thanks.





2016년 3월 8일 화요일, John Little<escrow.com?

I have nothing more to sell.

Regards
John


Sent: Monday, March 07, 2016 at 8:34 AM
From: Capsule <https://www.networksolutions.com/domain-transfer/index.jsp




The second one is an external transfer to another registrar, for example GoDaddy. I'll tell you an authorization code for it.




How domain escrow works




https://www.escrow.com/services/domain-and-website-escrow/how-domain-escrow-works/




Regards
John





Sent: Monday, March 07, 2016 at 12:08 AM
From: Capsule <[email protected]>님이 작성한 메시지:

I'm pretty sure that the funds will arrive in the Escrow.com.




Once the Escrow.com approves my payment, please push the domain name.




My Networksolutions.com Username is

sungchan




Thanks.





2016년 3월 8일 화요일, Capsule<escrow.com?

I have nothing more to sell.

Regards
John


Sent: Monday, March 07, 2016 at 8:34 AM
From: Capsule <https://www.networksolutions.com/domain-transfer/index.jsp




The second one is an external transfer to another registrar, for example GoDaddy. I'll tell you an authorization code for it.




How domain escrow works




https://www.escrow.com/services/domain-and-website-escrow/how-domain-escrow-works/




Regards
John





Sent: Monday, March 07, 2016 at 12:08 AM
From: Capsule <[email protected]>:

I'm pretty sure that the funds will arrive in the Escrow.com within today.








Once the Escrow.com approves my payment, please push the domain name.







My Networksolutions.com Username is




sungchan







Thanks.









2016년 3월 8일 화요일, Capsule<[email protected]>님이 작성한 메시지:

I'm pretty sure that the funds will arrive in the Escrow.com.




Once the Escrow.com approves my payment, please push the domain name.




My Networksolutions.com Username is

sungchan




Thanks.





2016년 3월 8일 화요일, Capsule<escrow.com?

I have nothing more to sell.

Regards
John


Sent: Monday, March 07, 2016 at 8:34 AM
From: Capsule <https://www.networksolutions.com/domain-transfer/index.jsp




The second one is an external transfer to another registrar, for example GoDaddy. I'll tell you an authorization code for it.




How domain escrow works




https://www.escrow.com/services/domain-and-website-escrow/how-domain-escrow-works/




Regards
John





Sent: Monday, March 07, 2016 at 12:08 AM
From: Capsule <networksolutions.com.




Please check your email and networksolutions.com account.




Thanks.





2016년 3월 9일 수요일, Capsule<[email protected]>님이 작성한 메시지:









OK! the Escrow.com approves my payment.




Please push the domain name to my Networksolutions account.




Username is



sungchan




And account number is 35107056




Thank you!







2016-03-08 19:52 GMT+09:00 Capsule <escrow.com?

I have nothing more to sell.

Regards
John


Sent: Monday, March 07, 2016 at 8:34 AM
From: Capsule <https://www.networksolutions.com/domain-transfer/index.jsp




The second one is an external transfer to another registrar, for example GoDaddy. I'll tell you an authorization code for it.




How domain escrow works




https://www.escrow.com/services/domain-and-website-escrow/how-domain-escrow-works/




Regards
John





Sent: Monday, March 07, 2016 at 12:08 AM
From: Capsule <[email protected]>
To: "John Little" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Little.com








I just initiated the domain's transfer within networksolutions.com.




Please check your email and networksolutions.com account.




Thanks.





2016년 3월 9일 수요일, Capsule<escrow.com?

I have nothing more to sell.

Regards
John

Sent: Monday, March 07, 2016 at 8:34 AM
From: Capsule <https://www.networksolutions.com/domain-transfer/index.jsp




The second one is an external transfer to another registrar, for example GoDaddy. I'll tell you an authorization code for it.




How domain escrow works




https://www.escrow.com/services/domain-and-website-escrow/how-domain-escrow-works/




Regards
John





Sent: Monday, March 07, 2016 at 12:08 AM
From: Capsule <[email protected]>님이 작성한 메시지:










Ok.




I wait for a transfer request from Network Solutions. Usually it takes a few hours.




Regards

John











Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2016 at 6:47 PM
From: Capsule <networksolutions.com.




Please check your email and networksolutions.com account.




Thanks.





2016년 3월 9일 수요일, Capsule<escrow.com?

I have nothing more to sell.

Regards
John

Sent: Monday, March 07, 2016 at 8:34 AM
From: Capsule <https://www.networksolutions.com/domain-transfer/index.jsp




The second one is an external transfer to another registrar, for example GoDaddy. I'll tell you an authorization code for it.




How domain escrow works




https://www.escrow.com/services/domain-and-website-escrow/how-domain-escrow-works/




Regards
John





Sent: Monday, March 07, 2016 at 12:08 AM
From: Capsule <escrow.com is needed to complete the deal.




Regards

John








Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2016 at 6:31 AM








From: Capsule <[email protected]>
To: "John Little" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Little.com








Hello.




Please check your email regarding the transfer.




Thanks.





2016년 3월 9일 수요일, John Little<networksolutions.com.




Please check your email and networksolutions.com account.




Thanks.





2016년 3월 9일 수요일, Capsule<escrow.com?

I have nothing more to sell.

Regards
John

Sent: Monday, March 07, 2016 at 8:34 AM
From: Capsule <https://www.networksolutions.com/domain-transfer/index.jsp




The second one is an external transfer to another registrar, for example GoDaddy. I'll tell you an authorization code for it.




How domain escrow works




https://www.escrow.com/services/domain-and-website-escrow/how-domain-escrow-works/




Regards
John





Sent: Monday, March 07, 2016 at 12:08 AM
From: Capsule <[email protected]>님이 작성한 메시지:


Done.




Your confirmation at escrow.com is needed to complete the deal.




Regards

John








Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2016 at 6:31 AM
From: Capsule <networksolutions.com.




Please check your email and networksolutions.com account.




Thanks.





2016년 3월 9일 수요일, Capsule<escrow.com?

I have nothing more to sell.

Regards
John

Sent: Monday, March 07, 2016 at 8:34 AM
From: Capsule <https://www.networksolutions.com/domain-transfer/index.jsp




The second one is an external transfer to another registrar, for example GoDaddy. I'll tell you an authorization code for it.




How domain escrow works




https://www.escrow.com/services/domain-and-website-escrow/how-domain-escrow-works/




Regards
John





Sent: Monday, March 07, 2016 at 12:08 AM
From: Capsule <[email protected]>
To: "John Little" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Little.com

Ok deal.



How would you like to proceed?




Thanks.



2016년 3월 7일 월요일, John Little<[email protected]>님이 작성한 메시지:

Hello




Let's do a deal at $33,000.




If it's agreeable to you, we can complete the deal next week.




Regards

John











Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2016 at 5:52 PM
From: Capsule <[email protected]>
To: "John Little" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Little.com

Hello Sir,




Please reply me.




I'm a motivated buyer .




Thank you.




























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Capsule <[email protected]>


14:19 (2시간 전)








John에게






















Hello.




Can I refund the money for the domain?




Thanks

 

[LarryDomain]

I'm just concerned about this thread MIGHT end up scamming NP people.

AVTAR629 - Your family seems a bit gullible! Not to be mean or anything but Father, Mother, Aunt and Granfather scammed?? Dude anyone will tell you, your family is quite gullible for scams. I've ran into one single person in my life that has been scammed by the Nigerian or similar Phishing scam. And I work for a company that employs 10,000+ people.

So needless to say, your family all needs to take a Internet safety class. You included, cuz you might be next.

Not hearing anything.

"Sold" 4 names at the auction which finished last Thursday but have not heard a thing.

OBSTACLE.COURSES........One of the very rarest gTLDs. I think only a little over 1K domains

Curious, did you used to have an all black lander up with a small yellow icon thing?

I recall trying to buy this years ago, made good 5 fig offer with the willingness to go much more, think I called the house and spoke with the owners wife and child. Never heard back...at that time we easily would have paid 6 figs, now that cpa etc is blah, its a pass. Timing is important, for this name while still very nice, I think you missed it.


Ok back, just checked, it was you...man did your child or wife not give you the message? Never ceases to amaze me how people miss out....maybe...all the best.

By the way? Why do I know so much about Nigerian scams because I have had my father scammes and mother and aunt and grandfather scammed by such scams. Not all from Nigeria. Some from India. But even if indian it's still called by the FBI as what? The Nigerian scam so no. I will not apologize. You take what I said personal? Ok I'll make you a fair deal give back what Nigerian scams have taken from my family and I'll be happy to apologize. Shall I give you my bank account so you can wire me the money ? Yea right! Like I'd give that to u? Lol

Prediction! my post will be deleted and this Nigerian guy's post won't be. Even though the Nigerian scam is something you can Google right now! lol

 

[TRY]

So let me get this , if I own the domain name BUY.com which cost a lot , and then ask hire someone (or just do it myself) to create a new account on my registrar and act like they stole it from me , and then sell it to someone , as many here replied ESCROW won't help the buyer after getting the money , also NS won't be a help either , so I can just pretend that my domain is stolen so they give it back to me , and the buyer need to hire a lawyer and try to sue that virtual seller ?!

Possession is nine-tenths of the law.....

 

[dezinerite]

Can you guys please stop calling him a Nigerian scammer? It's a derogatory term that is clearly offending some members (who are probably from Nigeria). The OP obviously cannot speak English to save his life, and we know Nigerians speak English really well. Did you not factor this in at all? If you think the OP is a scammer, why can't you just use the word scammer alone, why do you need to associate any nationality to it? Also, let's try to stop diverting the issue, it is unproductive and childish. This is about the OP and him losing money.

Let's be kind and give him the benefit of the doubt so that for future reference if anyone goes through the same thing they will be able to refer to this thread.

The OP clearly bought a stolen domain, and NetSol most likely blocked his account and returned the domain to its rightful owner. So nobody hacked into his NetSol account and stole anything, the OP initially assumed that's what happened when he thought the domain was stolen from him.

The asking price for little.com was 45k, that in itself was fishy. It took one email for the seller to drop the price down to 33k. The OP lacks knowledge in the industry. Zero portfolio, willing to spend 33k aka "life savings" into one single domain. Motivation: greed. That's what scammers are able to stimulate from their victims, and convince them they will profit tenfold.

I wonder if the OP had been acting as a broker or intermediary between a pair of scammers (or could be the same scammer with 2 email accounts).

Way I see it, OP is fighting a losing battle. Especially if you have no funds for lawyers or investigators. If you've got time on your hands you could always try to scambait the person who sold you little.com by pretending to be someone interested in another domain. If their email still works.

 

[AuctionBio]

My best advise to every domainer
If you buy any premium domain, you need to immediately shift it to your other account only for security measures. This can happen to anybody any time.

 

[d-e-x]

Can you guys please stop calling him a Nigerian scammer? It's a derogatory term that is clearly offending some members (who are probably from Nigeria). The OP obviously cannot speak English to save his life, and we know Nigerians speak English really well. Did you not factor this in at all? If you think the OP is a scammer, why can't you just use the word scammer alone, why do you need to associate any nationality to it? Also, let's try to stop diverting the issue, it is unproductive and childish. This is about the OP and him losing money.

Let's be kind and give him the benefit of the doubt so that for future reference if anyone goes through the same thing they will be able to refer to this thread.

The OP clearly bought a stolen domain, and NetSol most likely blocked his account and returned the domain to its rightful owner. So nobody hacked into his NetSol account and stole anything, the OP initially assumed that's what happened when he thought the domain was stolen from him.

The asking price for little.com was 45k, that in itself was fishy. It took one email for the seller to drop the price down to 33k. The OP lacks knowledge in the industry. Zero portfolio, willing to spend 33k aka "life savings" into one single domain. Motivation: greed. That's what scammers are able to stimulate from their victims, and convince them they will profit tenfold.

I wonder if the OP had been acting as a broker or intermediary between a pair of scammers (or could be the same scammer with 2 email accounts).

Way I see it, OP is fighting a losing battle. Especially if you have no funds for lawyers or investigators. If you've got time on your hands you could always try to scambait the person who sold you little.com by pretending to be someone interested in another domain. If their email still works.

1. Nobody here has called OP a ´´Nigerian scammer´´, I did not saw that. What I saw is - be aware, maybe...
2. OP is Domainer with some experience and he don't ´´lack knowledge in industry´´ like you said. Newbies don't buy such expensive domains.
3. Imagine - newbie approach to the John Little with words: ´´hi, can I buy your domain? ´´ Simple like that. Sorry but I don't buy that. ( Hi, Bill can I buy Microsoft from you? )
4. OP contacted seller FIRST and that is very important in this case.
5. Seller has offered to the OP transfer to ANY reg. of his choice. What if OP has decided to transfer domain to the GoDaddy for example ? With Escrow evidence he will have he's domain back in he's account in few days.

Like I said before, here we have some ´´loco´´ situation, many questions and only few answers.
OP comes here asking for help and that is ok. but if you want help you need to give some evidence here, (screenshot of Escrow payment for example would be fine. Not only - I am a victim and I don't have a money...) if you don't want to make that public that is ok. but then how you expect to somebody help you ? Beside that @TheLegendaryJP offered him a help ´´
Can you share the escrow info, you say you paid John Little so feel free to PM me the escrow info.

I want to continue to give you the benefit of the doubt BUT you have to start helping yourself via proof. ´´

This is best he can get here and now he is on the move.

To the OP - Send a PM to the @TheLegendaryJP with some evidence and you will get all help you need.

 

[forge]

4. OP contacted seller FIRST and that is very important in this case.

Bingo! That "little" fact most definitely needs to be scrutinized. Also, how long has the name been known to be stolen?

No one in 2016 is going to sell such a name for low 5 figures, especially knowing they own similar ones.

 

[artstar]

How if I covered my IP and make it looks like my domain is stolen by the fake me, and the fake me sold the 'stolen' domain to someone via escrow. Once the escrow is completed, the real me starts to make a claim to the registrar regarding the stolen issue and get the domain back. At the end I get the money and still keep the domain.

I always wonder who should be responable to this situation? The stupid buyer?

hmm so where does the $ come from that's in escrow? the fake me? lol doesn't make sense but interesting concept.

 

[mad409]

All I can say is if this happened to me I'd be on NP 24/7, begging for help from anyone here that could help. The lack of presence, detail from the OP is quite odd. JMO

 

[BMOS]

You don't have to worry . i had similar problems with few of my domains in Name.com. I contacted them and the domains were back in couple of days. Chase them daily until you get hold of your domains.

 

[elevator]

Ok did a little digging....

I actually tired to buy this name YEARS ago from the long time owner John Little.

John continued to own the name until March 5th at least, then whois changed within Netsol to a Korean KR owner and not 7, yes SEVEN days later sold to our OP.

Red flags everywhere there but I think it is safe to say the name was stolen from John, resold in 7 days to our OP using escrow.com and Netsol has frozen and taken it back for John.

Case closed, OP learned a lesson now go to bed.

Its now on the OP to hunt the thief down and try to recover funds, escrow cannot help, John Little and Netsol cannot help. At best Netsol could give the OP an IP or something of the thief but still useless really.

OP, bad luck!

Sorry, to me this is not clossed. Someone definitly sold it to OP and such person should be revealled.

One thing that is clear to me, is that, all of the transactions were done within netsol; and that showed how unsecure they are. IMO.

 

[TheLegendaryJP]

Just an update, I was away for a few days.

I have reviewed screen shots the OP provided of escrow. Assuming he is telling the full truth, no fakery and he is 100% honest I must conclude that John's email was either compromised or left expired and reregistered for use by the thief. Unfortunately if the thief used his old email service and called himself John Little in the escrow transaction is does not mean it was THE John Little (domain owner) it could have been anyone.

I have suggested the OP contact escrow and ask for verification of who they paid and how. That info would either quickly lead to more questions or put an end to this. I would assume the thief would not send funds to the real John Little of course so that would be a key piece of the case, if obtainable.

Again giving OP benefit of the doubt and with the help of escrow payment info, say thief's bank account, email for payment (which if via the john little hacked email is useless)...etc Even if one found the thief who could be anywhere in the world, charging them, proving it all in court and recovering funds are all very long shots and may not even justify the expense. Sad but a reality and a big example why due diligence is so vital.

 

[America First]

Just an update, I was away for a few days.

I have reviewed screen shots the OP provided of escrow. Assuming he is telling the full truth, no fakery and he is 100% honest I must conclude that John's email was either compromised or left expired and registered for use by the thief. Unfortunately if the thief used his old email service and called himself John Little in the escrow transaction is does not mean it was THE John Little (domain owner) it could have been anyone.

I have suggested the OP contact escrow and ask for verification of who they paid and how. That info would either quickly lead to more questions or put an end to this. I would assume the thief would not send funds to the real John Little of course so that would be a key piece of the case, if obtainable.

Again giving OP benefit of the doubt and with the help of escrow payment info, say thief's bank account, email for payment (which if via the john little hacked email is useless)...etc Even if one found the thief who could be anywhere in the world, charging them, proving it all in court and recovering funds are all very long shots and may not even justify the expense. Sad but a reality and a big example why due diligence is so vital.

I have been following this and you, and you been doing well on this. Thanks for the info....But here this guy sends a PM to you and you got what you asked for (a screen shot or email showing this transaction) since you had doubt as many of us do.(and many of us wanted to see also).
Are you saying you still have doubts this OP is REAL? Was this not satisfactory, would it hold up as evidence to Escrow.com? We would like to know you opinion since you are the only one with this info.

Are you suggesting maybe someone stole JL`s email to pull of this scam? LOL that process would be incredibly challenging, to steal the email, then get the password to his domain account, then hope JL never checks his email and noticed he is locked out and must contact them to reset the password, and then hope a buyer like the OP (a newbie, that has NO CLUE on how to do background checking and due diligence) at some point emails him one day asking him if the domain LITTLE.com happens to be for sale, then negotiate a price, open escrow, all while JL has not used his email, or had to get into his domain account, and hoping by chance Escrow.com does not do it`s due diligence on a name over 10k to make sure EVERYONE is on the up and up. lololol We are now phishing. lol

All my emails forward to other emails i have, no free accounts, so if anything changes, any request, account issues, I am notified on all of them. Each email/domain account I have is 12 to 18 letters, numbers, signs including caps. It`s a must.

 

[TheLegendaryJP]

I have been following this and you, and you been doing well on this. Thanks for the info....But here this guy sends a PM to you and you got what you asked for (a screen shot or email showing this transaction) since you had doubt as many of us do.(and many of us wanted to see also).
Are you saying you still have doubts this OP is REAL? Was this not satisfactory, would it hold up as evidence to Escrow.com? We would like to know you opinion since you are the only one with this info.

Are you suggesting maybe someone stole JL`s email to pull of this scam? LOL that process would be incredibly challenging, to steal the email, then get the password to his domain account, then hope JL never checks his email and noticed he is locked out and must contact them to reset the password, and then hope a buyer like the OP (a newbie, that has NO CLUE on how to do background checking and due diligence) at some point emails him one day asking him if the domain LITTLE.com happens to be for sale, then negotiate a price, open escrow, all while JL has not used his email, or had to get into his domain account, and hoping by chance Escrow.com does not do it`s due diligence on a name over 10k to make sure EVERYONE is on the up and up. lololol We are now phishing. lol

All my emails forward to other emails i have, no free accounts, so if anything changes, any request, account issues, I am notified on all of them. Each email/domain account I have is 12 to 18 letters, numbers, signs including caps. It`s a must.

Do I fully believe the OP, no and that is why I mentioned assuming all is on the up and up, including the screens shots at face value. Escrow does seem to verify his story though so very possible the transaction was real but does not clear it as part of the scam to steal the name (thief sells himself the name to add a layer). That is why I say "no" in terms of believing the OP entire story. So while I can believe escrow did take place I am not 100% confident it was not part of a scam which may have or not have included the OP.

The red flags for me are many...
OP lack of details, how, when, who started the deal etc (not that emails would be considered 100% authentic or fromt he real John Little any way) why not lay them out from day one?
OP claims he bought the name for just $33k
OP claims it is all the money he had
OP not just closes a deal but already has @little email set up in DAYS
OP seemingly gives up rather quickly
The Registrar clearly saw an red flag and acted quickly as well
etc etc etc

The email, actually JL for all his seemingly intelligence used a basic free type email service and there is the potential for a hack/crack OR he let the admin email drop and the thief reg'd it voila! How it all happened under JL's nose is debatable. Did he follow that email anymore, was it forwarded or not, was he on vacation???? All I know is the thief managed to steal the name and flip it in DAYS!..or at least make it appear that way. This wasn't a months long ordeal. I may add that email belongs to a domain group which owns many generics and offers that service to the point that 3 or 4 of the last LLL thefts involved one I helped recover. Keep in mind John Little was not entirely asleep because it was dealt with quickly as well. I have discovered that rar's are not stupid and willing to use common sense. One way in which I help recover names is to ask the domain recovery team to simply look at the IP who logged into the account... did it come from Russia, Iran, China etc...guess what Mr&Mrs. Smith in Idaho it could not have been and regardless of the how the name is retuned.

Like I said run their database of emails against registered admin's and see who forgot to renew or keep an email, very simple. In fact it is similar to someone who lets a domain drop they used for admin email. That method of theft happens as well.

 

[elevator]

if it starts like "Hello Friend, I am the daughter of a Nigerian Politician who owned a bankrupted Gold mine. My father secretly kept $400 million in his account and I'd like your help transfer these funds overseas.Please deposit $100 in this account and I will give you $1 million dollars. as a Thank you. Will you assist?" yadda yadda yadda. lol

My friend, please enough of these your "out of topic" if you have been scammed before, this is not the place to take A revenge on innocent people.

If you are not a thief, it would be so hard and almost imposible to scam you. OK! You claimed all of your family members were scammed, could that be that you have greed in your character?

Please allow people to find solution to this problem, so that we can learn on how it is resolved and so that by tomorrow non of us could fall into such problem .

 

[owntype]

hmm so where does the $ come from that's in escrow? the fake me? lol doesn't make sense but interesting concept.

Obviously in this concept, the real buyer paid money to escrow, and when the deal is completed, the fake me(real me) gets the money. And the real buyer is screwed.

 

[tonecas]

Sorry, to me this is not clossed. Someone definitly sold it to OP and such person should be revealled.

One thing that is clear to me, is that, all of the transactions were done within netsol; and that showed how unsecure they are. IMO.

just follow the money... Escrow has the seller's bank account info.

yes, NetSol has been extremely insecure for years. incredible how so much people still keeps their domains with them and paying the most expensive fees in the market.

 

[wolfis.com]

i can tell out of my very own experience that escrow will be very unlikely to give out buyers info ( unless you have a court document that forces them ).

in my first few years of domaining ( or maybe even 4nd year ) 2003( i guess it should be still show up in my escrow account ) i bought a ( and here it get really funny if it wouldn't be so sad )
i bought a domain : small.com ( yes not little but small ) for $ 4500 ( which was a cheap price in 2000 but a lot of money for me ) - both parties started escrow and i paid and the buyer ( from GB ) transferred the domain into my netsol account and only a day later netsol emailed me that the domain was stolen and has been return to the rightful owner .

i was shocked and there was nothing to do - after contacting escrow , they said they already paid the buyer )( which was kinda strange as it usually takes several days before you get paid by escrow . and they said there is nothing they can do for me .

i know escrow changed hands some time ago and maybe they help now - but back then - i did not get any help from nobody - i never got my money back . ( this is a true story )
i just found my escrow transaction and made a screenshot but i am unable to attach it here

if the little story is as it was told here ,then unless the buyer goes to the authorities and forces escrow to disclose the buyers bank info , the money will be lost.

 

[Bashar]

i can tell out of my very own experience that escrow will be very unlikely to give out buyers info ( unless you have a court document that forces them ).

in my first few years of domaining ( or maybe even 4nd year ) 2003( i guess it should be still show up in my escrow account ) i bought a ( and here it get really funny if it wouldn't be so sad )
i bought a domain : small.com ( yes not little but small ) for $ 4500 ( which was a cheap price in 2000 but a lot of money for me ) - both parties started escrow and i paid and the buyer ( from GB ) transferred the domain into my netsol account and only a day later netsol emailed me that the domain was stolen and has been return to the rightful owner .

i was shocked and there was nothing to do - after contacting escrow , they said they already paid the buyer )( which was kinda strange as it usually takes several days before you get paid by escrow . and they said there is nothing they can do for me .

i know escrow changed hands some time ago and maybe they help now - but back then - i did not get any help from nobody - i never got my money back . ( this is a true story )
i just found my escrow transaction and made a screenshot but i am unable to attach it here

if the little story is as it was told here ,then unless the buyer goes to the authorities and forces escrow to disclose the buyers bank info , the money will be lost.

and you gave up? didn't reach to a lawyer to reach out to escrow.com to get the person details who received the money?

 

[elevator]

But these are teribble experiences. I hope with rightful efforts the money can be reversed.