strategy How to Find Potential End Users?

[shilmy]

Hi,

Do any of you has regularly sell your domain to end users? If so, do you mind share with me in this thread on how find potential end users for your domain?

Regards,
Sjarief

 

[infmoney]

If you have the CEO email, is it worth send him a email for a potential sell?

Yes, I've sold to several CEO's. They are the decision makers so it's easier to make a deal.

That's been my experience with it at least. I sold a domain to a CEO today for $200.

 

[GiftedDomains]

I have had good experience with "contact forms".
I would say nearly all of them don't end up in spam folders and someone reads them. Its good if you can find the name of the managing director (for small companies) and markting manager (for bigger companies) , or both, before sending so that you can mention the name of them in the contact form.

 

[Archangel]

After going my career never hearing about mail-form success stories, I've read a bunch of them in the last page or 2. So I suppose forms really aren't a bad idea.

 

[lennco]

Do you think having a "Unsubscribe" link in your emails may trigger spam filters?

 

[Archangel]

Now that's a great question... too many legit newsletters use the words so I really couldn't see spam filters doing anything there... but I could be mistaken.

Do you think having a "Unsubscribe" link in your emails may trigger spam filters?

 

[GiftedDomains]

I don't use "unsubscribe" in my emails. It is used by many Spammers (like this Alex from Bellnames/Epik).

I always mention "if you are not interested, simply ignore this email. I will not contact you again" (and i really don't contact them again if they don't answer).

 

[richface]

Archangel

Archangel, sometimes is the only form of contact on a website. Funny enough I get more replies with contact forms than direct email. I make sure I keep my email very short. I have even closed a deal by logging a ticket with several companies I am not one to list my sales but the below are just a few sales recently by contact form. Somtimes even the contact form will say contact us for a quote bla bla BUT I still use it if the domain is great they won't care.

webdesignerschester.com
webdesignwestsussex.co.uk
ipadsoftwaredevelopment.com

After going my career never hearing about mail-form success stories, I've read a bunch of them in the last page or 2. So I suppose forms really aren't a bad idea.

 

[john_karr]

Even if it's a big corporation, would you still contact the CEO?

Yes, I've sold to several CEO's. They are the decision makers so it's easier to make a deal.

That's been my experience with it at least. I sold a domain to a CEO today for $200.

 

[infmoney]

Even if it's a big corporation, would you still contact the CEO?

Yes, I would advise that you do. The CEO is the decision maker so it would be easier in my opinion.

I sold a domain for $1,200 to a CEO a while back.

The company made more than 5 million a year. As long as your domain is decent they might be interested.

 

[john_karr]

The company is making billions of dollars. They own the hyphen .com, I have the non-hyphen .com.

Yes, I would advise that you do. The CEO is the decision maker so it would be easier in my opinion.

I sold a domain for $1,200 to a CEO a while back.

The company made more than 5 million a year. As long as your domain is decent they might be interested.

 

[000]

The company is making billions of dollars. They own the hyphen .com, I have the non-hyphen .com.

Assuming it's a generic domain without TM issues, sure, send him a one-time email letting him know that it's for sale. I would try to find several company contacts to email, such as a general info@ email and/or the Marketing Director/department, if possible. I only email a company once about any given domain so I generally try to come up with 2-3 good contacts in order to make the most of that email.

 

[lennco]

The company is making billions of dollars. They own the hyphen .com, I have the non-hyphen .com.

Sounds like its a German company, Germans love hyphenated domains

 

[john_karr]

Sounds like its a German company, Germans love hyphenated domains

No,not a German company. Good ole U.S.A. corp. They have the hyphen .com, I have the non-hyphen .com. Generic DN and no trademark.

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I own the singular .com, and another big corporation own the plural .com.Non-hyphen .com. Should I inform these companies that their competitor own the plural .com? Only if they email me back?

For example

My DN is creditscore.com

Corp 1 own DN creditscores.com

Corp 2 own DN credit-score.com

 

[lennco]

No,not a German company. Good ole U.S.A. corp. They have the hyphen .com, I have the non-hyphen .com. Generic DN and no trademark.

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I own the singular .com, and another big corporation own the plural .com.Non-hyphen .com. Should I inform these companies that their competitor own the plural .com? Only if they email me back?

For example

My DN is creditscore.com

Corp 1 own DN creditscores.com

Corp 2 own DN credit-score.com

I dont think I would actually try to pit one company against the other but I would say something like "I am contacting businesses like yours"
Good luck

 

[wonderfulsites]

What percentage of your domains do you sell to end users by self promotion? Is it a majority?
Im Curious..

And what percentage of sales come from users contacting you out of the blue?

 

[DnPresident]

So, once an end user has made their supposed "maximum offer", how much success are you guys/gals having in raising that price? Do you lose good sales by pushing for too much?

I was contacted via email Wednesday of last week by an end user who wrote that if I would sell the domain for a reasonable price they were ready to buy. I responded back that I would sell the domain for a reasonable price and asked what a reasonable price was to him.

In his second email to me he responded with a question "Are you able to differentiate whether or not the searched keyword is more associated with keyword "A" or Keyword "B" and said they were ready to pay $1,500 for the domain.

I responded in my second reply to him by first doing my best to answer his question thoroughly telling him what the majority of folks are looking for who type in the domain, the broad search, exact search, how I could use the 1 word category killer for SEO pages or sites by creating more exact search targeted sub-domains, a link to dnjournal ytd sales page, why this domain has a worth value of $40,000-$80,000 and that my price was only $14,000 negotiable.

He responds in his 3rd email yesterday "Saturday" with a thank you for the thorough response, that he is authorized to negotiate with me on the purchase price but the price remains a bit high and outside his authorization level but we could make it a quick sale at $7,000

I haven't responded and plan to tomorrow "Monday". I want closer to my asking price but don't want to scare him off either. Fine line.

My domain is exactly the domain he needs and specific to what he is promoting.

Any thoughts?

 

[tonecas]

(..)why this domain has a worth value of $40,000-$80,000 and that my price was only $14,000 negotiable.

He responds in his 3rd email yesterday "Saturday" with a thank you for the thorough response, that he is authorized to negotiate with me on the purchase price but the price remains a bit high and outside his authorization level but we could make it a quick sale at $7,000

you say that the domain is worth above 40k but then you lower your guard and ask for 14k. he replied with half that value. you should settle at 10K if you want to sell the domain because that it's what the buyer is looking for now. 10k seems a done deal at the moment.

if you are really confident that the domain in the right hands can *reasonably* fetch 40k and still want to try to sell it now but not at any price, you can push the 14k. if he is really interested in the domain he will go to that value or contact you again in a week or so giving you another round of smooth talking.

the important thing is to have a reasonable idea of the value of a domain. more often than not, sellers price their domains well above what is their "true" value and even at "true" value it will take a rare buyer to pay more than 15k for any domain.

i had several times domains that would be reasonably valued at 30k or more (even when making a simplistic google volume search based valuation, with the bogus google adwords keyword tool) and had to sell it at half bellow because people still don't value domains like we do and even if one day that buyer comes you will have spent much time with money locked in that investment.

good luck.

 

[ibidu]

.. why this domain has a worth value of $40,000-$80,000 and that my price was only $14,000 negotiable.

...quick sale at $7,000


Any thoughts?

How did you come up with the value of 40k to 80k in the first place?

If the above is your valuation of the domain so why are you thinking of selling it for 7k or a bit more?!

If you study their offers a bit more deeply since they jumped from their initial offer of 1.5k then they were prepared to pay you 7k for it, therefore my guess is there's a lot more higher that they would go to get their hands on that domain.

I know you're an experienced domainer yourself but if I were you, I'd choose a guy whose knowledge you trust and get his opinion on it, then you would be a lot more confident as whether you're underselling it or not.

 

[DnPresident]

Thanks for the response tonecas and ibidu. Ibidu, I don't have much experience at all selling domains. I'll be glad to pm you the domain name but will probably have to be towards the end of the week so I can either sell it or not. As far as how I came to the price of 40-80k, I really don't want to give out too much info right now that would lead the wrong folks to what domain it is because they might try to track down the buyer and do something that would interfere with the results of how this turns out. A few things I will say that I based it on are just the quality of the domain name, search volume, the product and the popularity of the product and then there's the size and revenue of the companies that run their business around this keyword and sub-domains that can be created with it. It's not based on the current earned revenue on the domain.

I really may have underpriced it but it would be impossible to raise the price now above my initial asking price but I think I can still go back close to my initial asking price. They have the bucks but I don't know how much of them their willing to spend on a domain name.

 

[ibidu]

@DnPresident

Okay, I will be glad to help. When I value a domain, I use lots of technical ways based on factual data - I do it manually myself and do not rely on robots or programs that other people have written - Morgan does value domains as well but his software quite honestly is a shamble and it took his team one year to develop that software!

Rest assured if you even send it to me earlier, it will be in safe hands, but do as you think best.