strategy How to Find Potential End Users?

[shilmy]

Hi,

Do any of you has regularly sell your domain to end users? If so, do you mind share with me in this thread on how find potential end users for your domain?

Regards,
Sjarief

 

[DNBro]

One of the best & useful threads of NP. It really helpful for everyone, especially those struggling to make sales.

Few months back, I have sold a domain using sales records. I have contacted that particular buyer and completed the deal.

Recently I contacted few end users using their who is contacts, one of the customer responded with my price expectations.

I'm ready to offer this domain any price, how I can go ahead and make the deal, with best price but same time without loosing business.

Looking forward your guidance.

 

[xrvel]

Great post, thanks a lot,buddy!

I just got an inquriy about one of my best domains!

Nice. How did you promote it?

 

[ezgoing]

This is a great thread. I have just finished reading it and picked up a few pointers.

So I will try and give a few in return. (I love smileys)

I have sold domains using afternic.com and sedo.com. I prefer sedo.com for several reasons.

1. Afternic has a minimum fee of $60.00 and charges 10% for higher priced domains. Sedo.com states a minimum fee of $50.00 but if you have the domain name parked with them they only charge a straight 10%. So it cost me less to sell through Sedo.

2. Afternic requires you to transfer the domain to the buyer and does not pay you until the buyer confirms the transfer. I have had buyers play games and not confirm the sale until a week or two after the transfer. Afternic wouldn't release the funds until the buyer confirmed the transfer, just kept telling me they were working to get the buyer to confirm the transfer. Sedo.com has you transfer the domain to their account, then they transfer it to the buyer. So the buyer can't play games about the transfer and I get paid faster. You get paid either way buy why wait a week or two to receive your money?

3. Sedo.com has an auction feature which you can use when you receive an offer that you would accept but consider low. I sold one domain last week at auction for $290 where the initial buyer stated the top price was $150.00. I had offered to accept $220.00 from him but ended up receiving an additional $70 as a result of the auction.

4. Finally I have found I received better revenue from sedo.com than afternic.com for parked pages.

eBay--I have never been able to sell a domain name using eBay but have bought several. I find that eBay buyers want to steal the domain, not buy it. Since I buy there from time to time I must include myself in that category.
:hehe:

Finally in all my domain records instead of organization I state "This domain is listed for sale at sedo.com"

This tells anybody interested enough in the domain to check Whois that the domain is for sale.

I prefer to sell using sedo.com or afternic.com instead of handling the sale myself. I'm willing to pay the fee instead of having the headaches of dealing with a flaky buyer or the risk of the buyer being a scammer.

Hope these tips helped.

Ed

 

[MarkP]

Finally in all my domain records instead of organization I state "This domain is listed for sale at sedo.com"

Great idea! Props added. Thanks :sold:

 

[cybermonkey]

Hi, everyone.
I've done only two sales in the past to end-users. In both cases I've contacted the end-users and was sent the money right into my PayPal account no questions asked. My question is, how do I bring the subject of "money tranfer first" to an end-user? I currenty dealing with the end-user company that assumes that the domain I am selling will be transfered to them first and they will pay afterwards. Has anyone else had the same problem bringing up this subject to an end-user? Any help will be much appreciated.

 

[Damion]

Hi, everyone.
I've done only two sales in the past to end-users. In both cases I've contacted the end-users and was sent the money right into my PayPal account no questions asked. My question is, how do I bring the subject of "money tranfer first" to an end-user? I currenty dealing with the end-user company that assumes that the domain I am selling will be transfered to them first and they will pay afterwards. Has anyone else had the same problem bringing up this subject to an end-user? Any help will be much appreciated.

You should mention that you understand there is a need for a risk free domain ownership transfer that ensures a safe transaction of the domain and associated funds, by making use of a Escrow service such as Escrow.com or Moniker.com, Sedo.com who all offers a reliable and safe way to ensure you as the seller and the buyer are protected in the process and everything is handled correctly.

 

[panterrasbox]

Hi, everyone.
I've done only two sales in the past to end-users. In both cases I've contacted the end-users and was sent the money right into my PayPal account no questions asked. My question is, how do I bring the subject of "money tranfer first" to an end-user? I currenty dealing with the end-user company that assumes that the domain I am selling will be transfered to them first and they will pay afterwards. Has anyone else had the same problem bringing up this subject to an end-user? Any help will be much appreciated.

You want to use an escrow service such as one by Moniker or Sedo or multiple others. It might cost a couple of percentage points, but ensures a win-win outcome for both parties. I conducted a domain sale for $xx,xxx back in 2000. The buyer had a legitimate attorney involved who conducted the escrow function.

If it is a low dollar sale - less than $1,000, then my first inclination is to ask for the payment up front, then to transfer the domain. NEVER release your domain before getting payment. Then, you might want to declare a 7 day waiting period for the payment to be validated. Even cashiers checks can be forged these days. And, I believe that wire transfers can be voided/reversed if the funder does not actually have the money. So, it might look like your account has received the expected money, but then 48 hours later the deposit has simply disappeared.

Be careful with anyone who tries to rush you in a transaction. All the best!

 

[copper]

I rarely accept paypal payment unless it's less than $100
But, again, I don't sell that low to end-users.

I tried email solicit one time without success.
They all found me, instead.
Should I try again?

 

[End User King]

This thread is getting stronger by the minute.
I am closing on a sale with John Deere right now
and will report on how I did it on Friday. Once the
check is cashed I'll reveal the name.

 

[copper]

This thread is getting stronger by the minute.
I am closing on a sale with John Deere right now
and will report on how I did it on Friday. Once the
check is cashed I'll reveal the name.

John Deere
I am itching to see how you did it on friday

 

[xrvel]

Anyone has the latest e-mail format that works, and get response from an end user? :tu:

- Kurniawan

 

[abid286]

Good advice.

 

[mrchess]

I thought sending out emails, even just single emails and personalized would be considered spam and illegal.
Are you worried about hitting that one guy who takes legal action?

 

[Gene]

I thought sending out emails, even just single emails and personalized would be considered spam and illegal.
Are you worried about hitting that one guy who takes legal action?

Sending out a single email to a company or person you intend to personally communicate with one-on-one is not necessarily spam, as long as you thoroughly identify yourself and provide a way to contact you directly (phone, postal mail, personal name, direct email).

 

[End User King]

Provide your clients with a domain that's considering
generic by the domainer and brandable in the end users
eye.

Not all generics look good onscreen. Work on that and you'll see
more sales. And buy names that give you the broadest possible
audience.

 

[Broker]

Domains sold since Feb 07: 3301, end users: 988

No offense, but thats just too hard to accomplish or believe unless it was a couple portfolios.

 

[Pound]

Domains sold since Feb 07: 3301, end users: 988

No offense, but thats just too hard to accomplish or believe unless it was a couple portfolios.

Lol, I doubt Fabulous even sell that many in a year and they have a portfolio of ~500,000 names!

 

[RegFee]

http://www.dnoa.org gives (or at least used to give) free @dnoa.net email addresses. I use that for all of my whois and most of my domaining correspondence in general. I sometimes even end my email with

Full Name
Certified Member, Domain Name Owners Association

 

[The Stealthy One]

I tend to do well with smaller transactions at places like Digital Point or other forums, usually related to Web hosting. Otherwise, for larger transactions, eBay seems to have worked well for me.

 

[End User King]

Domains sold since Feb 07: 3301, end users: 988

No offense, but thats just too hard to accomplish or believe unless it was a couple portfolios.

I was told not to respond to your post, but I could'nt resist...

I honestly cant count how many companies I've sold to. I actually have obligations to provide businesses with as many domains relevant to their business as possible at a guaranteed $50 a pop - reg fee or not. Do the math that's alot of domains.

Whether it's the PGA to Norton to the Red Cross I've done business with em. I've done XX,XXX in business in just the last week and I'm not talking about
high value domains.


If you had any doubts about my work, you could've pmed me and I would've furnished you with actual emails from endusers and paypal statements. Aint no shame in my game.

I can honestly say that I have even completed or participated in at least 18 domainers sales - some that were into the upper XX,XXX all the way down to the small domainers XXX sale. I hope some of them come to this post and testify to that fact.

Let me know!