strategy How to Find Potential End Users?

[shilmy]

Hi,

Do any of you has regularly sell your domain to end users? If so, do you mind share with me in this thread on how find potential end users for your domain?

Regards,
Sjarief

 

[mwzd]

Now imagine some of those so called "domain kings" would do that with their premium one word .com names. They would probably sell millions within one week instead of waiting 10 years and hope for the "right enduser" to knock at their door.

They have legal issues to consider as well. And if someone is sitting on a portfolio of prime one word generic .coms - they're really not desperate for a sale, people like Rick can afford to sell 7 domains in 15 years, because they clear six/seven figures in PROFIT on each sale, unlike the masses, or me for that matter.

I think this biz will be more and more difficult in the future and thinking outside the box will be necessary anyway if you want to keep making money.

It already is if you compare to 2007, some of the domains I bought and sold back then on the forum would probably end up with a $x bid now.

I also think its a good way if you want to specialize in a specific niche too. Knowing all the big players in that specific market/industry (and meet them) will help a lot - also long term, once you have all the contacts, its much easier.

Having knowledge of a niche and utilising that to profit from it is great, I had a customer hand register a .com that is well on its way to becoming a mid five figure revenue business and that's only from consulting.

 

[LungioMike]

Anyone ever call or leave voicemails ?

 

[fm1234]

Less relevant to the sales process than to general organisation, but one thing that occurred to me to be worth sharing is to keep good notes on your research.

I recently took a domain off the market when I wasn't able to get what I felt was a decent price for it, and put up a small site on the domain to get it ranking and pulling in traffic (the idea being to have some data to back up the value once I put it back on the market.) The site has been up for a little over two months, and has generated affiliate revenue equivalent to 20% of my original asking price for the domain. It is not inconceivable that by the time it's been up a year, it will have brought in at least 50% and perhaps as much as 100% or more of the price for which I was willing to sell the domain originally.

What does that have to do with keeping notes? Well, when I was sourcing my end users, I was making notes of top advertisers for the keyword, top organic search rankings, related search terms etc. all of which made generating the basic look, feel and initial content of a site very simple (by emulating what was working for others.) Very minimal work and essentially zero expense went into the site. If you have the data and don't have the buyers, that does not mean the data is worthless.


Frank

 

[infmoney]

Nice fm1234. Thanks for sharing. If I were you, I'd keep the domain unless you get a substantial offer.

Less relevant to the sales process than to general organisation, but one thing that occurred to me to be worth sharing is to keep good notes on your research.

I recently took a domain off the market when I wasn't able to get what I felt was a decent price for it, and put up a small site on the domain to get it ranking and pulling in traffic (the idea being to have some data to back up the value once I put it back on the market.) The site has been up for a little over two months, and has generated affiliate revenue equivalent to 20% of my original asking price for the domain. It is not inconceivable that by the time it's been up a year, it will have brought in at least 50% and perhaps as much as 100% or more of the price for which I was willing to sell the domain originally.

What does that have to do with keeping notes? Well, when I was sourcing my end users, I was making notes of top advertisers for the keyword, top organic search rankings, related search terms etc. all of which made generating the basic look, feel and initial content of a site very simple (by emulating what was working for others.) Very minimal work and essentially zero expense went into the site. If you have the data and don't have the buyers, that does not mean the data is worthless.


Frank

 

[GeoFan]

There are so many valuable tips in this thread, you could write a book! Well worth reading all the 2500 posts, or at least all of the posts that have Thanks and Likes, for sure!

I would also like to know more about which sites are the best to list domains for sale. I.E. Features comparison. Advantages/Disadvantages? If you are going to work to sell a bunch of valuable domains, simply putting a list on your own FSBO site seems not the way to go. Better exposure creates more interest and puts more pressure on buyers to decide NOW.

What are the tradeoffs between listing on GoDaddy, Ebay, Sedo, Afternic, etc, etc, etc.

What do you use and why?

For Emails, what is the soluton? Is using MailChimp or similar Email Marketing sites ok? Most of them require double-opt-in and will shut you down fast for more than one or two complaints.

 

[kevin smith 619]

A little more time intensive, but has worked for me is any forum that I'm a member of that is targeted to a topic, I put the domain names that match the topic in my sig with a "for sale" note.

 

[twomoon]

One thing that I discovered yesterday. Maybe it could be helpful.

I'm emailing Endusers sometimes offering them my domains. I use very simple emails and usually I used the word "domain" in these emails.
Well yesterday I sent one such email to myself (another mailbox).
I checked it in a Windows Live Mail. When I sent such email with a word "domain" in it this email went to the "junk email", but when I changed the word "domain" to "web address" it went to the normal "Inbox".

Just an expirience.

 

[mitok]

Thanks for sharing. It looks like the word domains in title activate some spam triggers.

Anyway, my opinion is that is much better NOT to include "domain" or "website" in your title. If you are selling WebDesignDallas.com I would say that best title would be Web Design.......it is connected with what they do so it is very likely that they would read that email.

 

[twomoon]

Thanks for sharing. It looks like the word domains in title activate some spam triggers.

Anyway, my opinion is that is much better NOT to include "domain" or "website" in your title. If you are selling WebDesignDallas.com I would say that best title would be Web Design.......it is connected with what they do so it is very likely that they would read that email.

Yes agree with you.
I was telling not about the title but about the body. For titles I use usually the domain name without the extension.

 

[mitok]

Yes agree with you.
I was telling not about the title but about the body. For titles I use usually the domain name without the extension.

Sorry, I thought you mean on title.

Well, I often mention the word "domain" in the body of my message and I never though it could be a problem:?

 

[000]

I use the word "domain" multiple times in my emails, and even have the word "domains" in my business name, and I still manage to make sales, so I'm not too worried about it... but that's definitely some food for thought, something worth playing around with.

I think someone asked about which registrars are preferred. I would say GoDaddy, hands down. Most GoDaddy-registered domains I sell end up staying at GoDaddy. For comparison, most of my Moniker-registered domains end up being transferred elsewhere. At times it's simply a matter of not being able to transfer out of GoDaddy (with their 60 day transfer-out lock after a domain has changed owners), but overall it's because GoDaddy is better known than most registrars (thanks in part to their TV commercials I am sure). Seems like most people I deal with already have a GoDaddy account.

 

[twomoon]

I use the word "domain" multiple times in my emails, and even have the word "domains" in my business name, and I still manage to make sales, so I'm not too worried about it... but that's definitely some food for thought, something worth playing around with.

I was just trying to explain myself why I don't have sales - amd the "junk email" is a good explanation lol

P.S. Like very much your signature! Very similar to my life

 

[000]

I was just trying to explain myself why I don't have sales - amd the "junk email" is a good explanation lol

Have you considered your email message format/style/technique, asking prices, the email address you're using to send emails from, etc? There are many factors, of course. :gl:

P.S. Like very much your signature! Very similar to my life

Gotta keep my priorities straight :hehe:

 

[twomoon]

Have you considered your email message format/style/technique, asking prices, the email address you're using to send emails from, etc? There are many factors, of course. :gl:

Yes, sure. It was just a joke. I have sales sometimes

 

[Loko]

Good tip indeed. Usually I sent a copy of mail sent to another emailadress of mine but i noticed sometimes it ends up in spam. I'm going to check it out more thoroughly..

I checked it in a Windows Live Mail. When I sent such email with a word "domain" in it this email went to the "junk email", but when I changed the word "domain" to "web address" it went to the normal "Inbox".

Just an expirience.

 

[nuco6]

i recently mailed alot of end users...i got 2 replies...i was unsure about the pricing...its been 24 hours since i priced i never got an response....do you think i should send a follow up email that i am ready for negotiation and how many days later u send follow up email

my strategy was start high then negotiate

 

[surprise]

When an end user may consider filing an UDRP over a generic domain name similar to theirs ? I mean at what price they may consider it over just buying the domain name ? Is under 3K $ safe for approaching end users with similar domains ( generic ) ?
The cost of an UDRP starts at 1500 $ without a lawyer and can cost more it depends ...

 

[000]

i recently mailed alot of end users...i got 2 replies...i was unsure about the pricing...its been 24 hours since i priced i never got an response....do you think i should send a follow up email that i am ready for negotiation and how many days later u send follow up email

my strategy was start high then negotiate

Are you taking into consideration that it's the weekend? Most buyers will have very little contact with you from Friday PM - Monday AM. In most cases, negotiating for a domain name is not their #1 priority for the day (probably more like #15-30), so there's no point trying to rush things.

No follow up email, at least not for a few weeks. If they want the domain they will get back to you. Sending multiple emails before a response will make you look desperate to sell, and most of the time if they didn't respond to you the first time, they won't respond to your 2nd or 3rd emails either.

 

[nuco6]

True.... iam not going to make myself look desperate ..domain is exact keyword of what service they provide so let me wait .....i know i priced it high...but if they are interested they should mail back on negotiation

last week i closed a deal...but buyer did respond in 24 hours we closed the deal maximum in 48 hours....it differs with every buyer

 

[000]

last week i closed a deal...but buyer did respond in 24 hours we closed the deal maximum in 48 hours....it differs with every buyer

Definitely varies from buyer to buyer. I've had deals that were completed in an hour and other deals that have taken 6 months or more. Most buyers respond quickly but some will take their time for one reason or another.