debate How possible expirednet names regged instantly?

[alcy]

I dont really care much
I have 500 ai com over 2years
where this wasnt happening
butsince 6month it happens
so I'm just curious... I know zero about scripts and automating regs.. and expireddomains.net owner tell me scripts not allowed.. but he failed to say if notallowed mean people can still pass red light of no police around.. or if not allowed mean the site code stops them from working

anyway... question for u script pros... how is it possible I click refresh on my ai filter.. to see last drops and say one appears dropped 1 second ago... then I go reg and its gone.. I'm talking about reg speed not possible for human.. almost like when it shows on screen already regged.

any clues on this fine mystery?
quite sure its same owner too doing it. cause they go to same lander.

like I said I dont care much cause I grabbed a bunch before on the good old first come basis... but sometime still neat one pops up I'd not mind having... plus of course tis would make it unfair to all and to site if indeed it's done by a way which is not allowed.

thoughts?

 

[Hypersot]

Two things:

1. ED owner does block automated scripts.
Many years ago, I tried once to write a simple script to monitor a certain category within ED. Shortly after, I received an email from the owner asking me what's the reason for doing that, lol. I genuinely didn't know that wasn't allowed so I immediately ended my attempt.
So, yeah, I don't think scripts are tolerated by the ED owner.

2. Availabilities will never be 100% correct on any of those expired lists.
You might see a domain dropped in ED but, in reality, the domain might have dropped at a completely different time or the domain might not have been available in the first place ( a false positive on the availability check by ED).
In general, use expired lists (like ED) as a guide and never as something to rely 100% on.

 

[alcy]

Two things:

1. ED owner does block automated scripts.
Many years ago, I tried once to write a simple script to monitor a certain category within ED. Shortly after, I received an email from the owner asking me what's the reason for doing that, lol. I genuinely didn't know that wasn't allowed so I immediately ended my attempt.
So, yeah, I don't think scripts are tolerated by the ED owner.

2. Availabilities will never be 100% correct on any of those expired lists.
You might see a domain dropped in ED but, in reality, the domain might have dropped at a completely different time or the domain might not have been available in the first place ( a false positive on the availability check by ED).
In general, use expired lists (like ED) as a guide and never as something to rely 100% on.

thata great info
ty

clarifies a lot

so I guess ed does not automatically block scripts.. more like it detects em.
informs owner then owner inform u...

also for fun u think its possible to check on whois etc vs drop time on ed to tell if name regged like u say way before it show on ed?

and the other option is it shows on ed when in reality was backordered and caught?

 

[Hypersot]

@alcy ,
I've been monitoring various extensions for years and I can tell you, it is really really hard to know 100% of the time what is going on with a domain unless you are actually the registry; even registrars have a hard time knowing what is going on at times.

So, if you really what to be sure about a domain, you need to be prepared in advance and wait for it (or place a backorder somewhere).
ED does a great job at showing an estimation. It is your job though to be on guard in case a domain gets caught or drops earlier, etc.

so I guess ed does not automatically block scripts.. more like it detects em.
informs owner then owner inform u...

...or just bans the user without any contact which is the most common thing to do.

In my case I think the owner realised that my attempt wasn't in bad faith. It was rather obvious what I did and he was more curious why I did it rather than trying to scold me.

After that incident, I realised it's much better to contact the owner of a service/tool and ask compared to do whatever comes to my head.

 

[alcy]

@alcy ,
I've been monitoring various extensions for years and I can tell you, it is really really hard to know 100% of the time what is going on with a domain unless you are actually the registry; even registrars have a hard time knowing what is going on at times.

So, if you really what to be sure about a domain, you need to be prepared in advance and wait for it (or place a backorder somewhere).
ED does a great job at showing an estimation. It is your job though to be on guard in case a domain gets caught or drops earlier, etc.


...or just bans the user without any contact which is the most common thing to do.

In my case I think the owner realised that my attempt wasn't in bad faith. It was rather obvious what I did and he was more curious why I did it rather than trying to scold me.

After that incident, I realised it's much better to contact the owner of a service/tool and ask compared to do whatever comes to my head.

I get what u say to monitor

and your experiences with out of sync stuff

however I have to tell u also that I used this site for like 7yr... almost daily... and one of main reasons I post this thread is because after regging countless names... I never had this instant reg issue here

so I hope u also understand my experience.

this situation is completely abnormal to my experience

hence my post.

 

[DomainGemsAI]

I get where you’re coming from, and I think that last point is important.

When someone has been using ED daily for years and suddenly notices a pattern change, it’s reasonable to question it. Even if ED is only an estimation layer, your experience still matters — especially if this didn’t happen consistently before and now does.

One thing I’ve noticed across different extensions is that behaviour can change without ED itself changing much at all. Registry-side rules, registrar integrations, backorder competition, or even increased interest in a niche TLD can all shift the timing window just enough that it starts feeling instant from the user side.

So it’s possible that nothing “new” is happening at ED, but the environment around it has tightened. When more actors are watching the same drops closer to the registry or registrar layer, the gap between “visible on ED” and “actually available” can shrink to almost nothing — which would line up with what you’re describing.

That doesn’t invalidate your experience at all. It just means ED is still showing an approximation, but the margin for human action has gotten smaller than it used to be.

I don’t think it’s necessarily about scripts hitting ED directly, more about the drop being effectively decided before most of us ever see it surfaced.

 

[alcy]

or maybe whoever regs these names sees them available before ed show em??? I only ever use ed.. never did backorder in my life lol... but I assume there r other places where fresh expiries may show seconds or minutes before ed? or it's just a perfectly synced machine across all venues???

examples of names this instant reg happened last nite... com

aidecorators
aishockwave

same new owner. based on lander.

but it happens daily. and for basically all 1word ai com

the ai fans here like me will know is avg and sellable in ai.. these 2 are... but many 1word he get r not.

but he get em anyway

its almost like a bot being told to reg in 5 nanosecond everything ai 1word in com lol

funny weird

make a nice curiosity I guess lol

 

[ArielT]

I think ED could be showing all domains as available in the exact release time without checking if it has been registered and then checking if it's still available to show an updated status

I see that aidecorators and aishockwave are at spaceship so maybe the registrant used a desktop catching software as I don't see spaceship offers dropcatching service

I personally use dropcatching services for domains I think will have demand at drop

 

[boker]

or maybe whoever regs these names sees them available before ed show em??? I only ever use ed.. never did backorder in my life lol... but I assume there r other places where fresh expiries may show seconds or minutes before ed? or it's just a perfectly synced machine across all venues???

examples of names this instant reg happened last nite... com

aidecorators
aishockwave

same new owner. based on lander.

but it happens daily. and for basically all 1word ai com

the ai fans here like me will know is avg and sellable in ai.. these 2 are... but many 1word he get r not.

but he get em anyway

its almost like a bot being told to reg in 5 nanosecond everything ai 1word in com lol

funny weird

make a nice curiosity I guess lol

The part with being available before showing on ED it's true, at least for cctlds, not sure if it's the same for .com I found some 2-3 minutes before showing available at ED
By the way, an unreleted question for pros: If I cancel a domain tomorrow, it goes directly to a redemption period, where I can recover it for 30 days for a fee. The redemption period is the same as for expired one's, as in I can backorder it with some platforms, or it goes directly available after the 30 days, without being monitored by snapnames and friends?

 

[Hypersot]

The redemption period is the same as for expired one's, as in I can backorder it with some platforms, or it goes directly available after the 30 days, without being monitored by snapnames and friends?

There is yet another period after redemption where the domain gets into a 'pending delete' state. Afaik, that's where any BO service shows domains that can be BOed and not while in redemption.

If what I say is correct, then, as soon as the domain gets into the pending delete, it should be available in the registrar's lists and therefore can be BOed.

 

[boker]

There is yet another period after redemption where the domain gets into a 'pending delete' state. Afaik, that's where any BO service shows domains that can be BOed and not while in redemption.

If what I say is correct, then, as soon as the domain gets into the pending delete, it should be available in the registrar's lists and therefore can be BOed.

I was checking for a link at icann, but I could not find one, what I've found was some registrar saying that they are 30 days in redemption and after that they go straight to availability, that's why I was asking, I was thinking somebody has some personal experience with cancelled domains and tracked the process.

 

[alcy]

shit keep happen every day

basically all 1word ai

most unsellable trash

but a couple a week I'd not mind owning

but this bot he pick all up including trash
.. so it's basically like suck trash bot

all go to spaceship

Bot.. I want u to know u not playing by rules and making it the fun game of first come first served this is meant to be

 

[Hypersot]

@alcy ,
maybe there is some pre-auction somewhere that you are missing or the registry uses Spaceship to manage auctions.
I'm only throwing assumptions here as I don't buy .ai domains so I have no idea how that extension works but I've seen it before the results of pre-drop auctions to end up on some registrars (eg. Namecheap)

 

[alcy]

@alcy ,
maybe there is some pre-auction somewhere that you are missing or the registry uses Spaceship to manage auctions.
I'm only throwing assumptions here as I don't buy .ai domains so I have no idea how that extension works but I've seen it before the results of pre-drop auctions to end up on some registrars (eg. Namecheap)

ty...

ps my whole thread is about ai 1word coms

and none of it about .ai

 

[Hypersot]

ty...

ps my whole thread is about ai 1word coms

and none of it about .ai

short memory gets really foggy with age lol. I remembered that the thread was about ai domains getting snapped before the drop-time but that was it ... sorry about that

If it is .coms then you are absolutely right. Why don't you use a BO service for those? Iirc, spaceship does not offer a dropcatch API nor a BO service so, whoever snaps those domains has obviously more technical capabilities that you. Just use any BO service for .coms and you'll probably get the upper hand.

 

[alcy]

short memory gets really foggy with age lol. I remembered that the thread was about ai domains getting snapped before the drop-time but that was it ... sorry about that

If it is .coms then you are absolutely right. Why don't you use a BO service for those? Iirc, spaceship does not offer a dropcatch API nor a BO service so, whoever snaps those domains has obviously more technical capabilities that you. Just use any BO service for .coms and you'll probably get the upper hand.

haha yes foggy memories
old age

honestly I never did catch in my life

I can learn no prob

but the whole point of thread is to solve mystery why after 10yr using expirednet and never see it happen once.. it happen now ... on ai 1word coms.
... and how it happens

 

[IrfanHabib]

Are you looking for a system that registered expired domains instantly when they get deleted from registry expired list?

I have built a dropcatch script that automatically catch expired domains (any tlds) while you are sleeping.

If this is what you are looking for instant domain registration, please let me know.

 

[alcy]

Are you looking for a system that registered expired domains instantly when they get deleted from registry expired list?

I have built a dropcatch script that automatically catch expired domains (any tlds) while you are sleeping.


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If this is what you are looking for instant domain registration, please let me know.

ty

well mechanically I was asking why after 10yr of using expirednet to reg names I was able to get anyting I wanted as long as I invested time and effort to be there first on time

and suddenly I cant with ai com 1words

so I guess this means I want way to be able to do it there as before.

but someone seem to use ways which r against the fairness of first come first served

it's not end of world for me

but it's a mystery I have right to be curious about

I dont really know what scripts r

how use em

or whatnames I wanna reg before I see em drop on expirednet