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How do you get "eyes" on your Godaddy,Namejet,Sedo auctions?

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  1. Avtar629

    Avtar629 MarketDN.com Gold Account VIP

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    How do you get "eyes" on your Godaddy,Namejet,Sedo auctions?

    I'm asking because my last Namejet auctio was DISASTROUS!

    depressing too. I was told by Namejet. It was too much too many and I overwhelmed potential bidders.

    That it's best to space it out.

    But I couldn't help thinking my domains just "sucked".

    many said so too. (tough love!) lol

    That said. We've all seen some crazy domains sell for tons of money. most don't even make sense!

    is it all just a crap shoot? or is there a science to getting domains to sell for so high? I guess that's what we all hope for here.

    I mean yea people sell to endusers all the time and it's announced on here. but when auctions go for big money? We usually ask "What?"

    Or we usually say "Somebody paid too much!"

    Nonetheless these domain owners did something to get "eyes" on their auctions so much so that the right person was in the crowd and they saw value in the domain to bid high.

    In thee end it's all about quantity of "eyes" on a domain auction.

    How is it done?

    skip the whole

    "advertise on namepros"
    or
    "advertise on Namejet"
    or
    "list your domains here on Namepros in the external domains section"

    That's all understood so let's not waste time saying all that.

    What's the "other stuff" besides all that?

    Social Media but I've been to all the Facebook domainer sections.

    It's just tedious. It's just people trying to sell each other stuff. lol

    What about Twitter?
    Instagram?
    youtube?
    Linkedin?
    Snapchat?
    Wechat?
    QQ?
    TikTok? lol jk
    Reddit?

    DNF? That's dead. I don't see anyone posting on there like here.

    Quora?

    Any success with these?

    What about Domaining.com?

    What about email marketing? How does one do that without just ending up becoming a spammer?

    I had asked one time over at Godaddy if they would allow me to instead of giving them 20% commission on my auction I'd give them 25% but in exchange I'd want the Featured listing in the exact match keyword section for my domain.

    that's worth losing 5% of the sale I think.

    paying upfront simply is not an option for some.

    I mean Godaddy can even choose to be picky if they want on whom they would give that 25% commission offer to in exchange for Featured listing. I mean it's not like you are twisting their arm.

    This can be applied to Namejet or even Sedo.

    Never understood why these auction companies choose to make you pay upfront for featured listing.

    I guess if you are confident you can pay the fee because you know you'd get it back because your domain is awesome.

    but still who here is really THAT confident all the time with their domains. There's always that fear and apprehension that maybe my domain sucks. or is it just me? so we hesitate on paying up front for the featured listing.


    Anyway's me rambling so what are your secrets to get eyes on your domain auctions?
     
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  2. JB Lions

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    Don't know if your domains sucked, not sure where the list is, but if they do, then the other stuff really doesn't matter.

    Links to external auctions at NP used to be better in the past, before they stopped showing them in New Posts. That's literally one of the reasons I stopped paying for a Business account here.

    Paying for a Featured listing at GD, I did that before in my rookie year, no luck. My GD rep literally told me it's a waste of money, one of the reasons I liked that rep. Appreciated the honesty.

    I had some GD auctions before and woke up one morning and noticed one of them was getting some action, couldn't figure out why. Then I saw that it was mentioned over on Domain Shane's blog for free. I've used that before with some good results. Only $10.

    Tried Namebio and Domaining before as well, don't think they worked for me but might for others.

    As far as all that other stuff, I guess it doesn't hurt to try. But I don't think most of that would work.

    Again, you need to have decent domains to begin with.

    And what dncafe posted below. In the past I've done outbound for names in auction or just tweet them out.
     
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  3. dncafe

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    Targeted outbound marketing to end users. That's where the real money is (if you're not selling liquid domains). The ultimate goal being to start a bidding war between 2 or more end users who want the domain. The price will go far higher than if you were to negotiate one on one with a buyer, who doesn't see any other interested buyers.

    Too many domainers get stuck in the domaining bubble. They spend all their time here on NP and reading other domaining blogs and twitter accounts. When it comes time to promote their auctions, they think those are good places to promote their auctions, but the only people there are domainers who want to pay low wholesale prices, to buy the domain and resell for a higher price.

    That also goes for paying for upgraded or featured listings, that is not always helpful because most end users will not be on the auction site to begin with, as they are not domainers. You need to do the outbound marketing and bring them to the auction.

    For me, NamePros is a fun place to casually buy and sell domain names, but I don't ever list any of my high end names here, as I don't want to sell it to another domain seller, I want to sell it to the end user.

    How to do outbound marketing is a whole nother thing, with many different areas. It would be better to read up on it on marketing forums and other places.
     
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  4. Ategy.com

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    On the wholesale level I think what @JB Lions mentioned about listing with @Domain Shane for $10 is likely one of the best things you can do. While I'd love to think that I have the best lists around at NameCult, there's no denying that he's put in very consistent work over the last many years to build a large and loyal following. So while as @dncafe also pointed out, your actual goal should not be to sell to other domainers, if it's a domain you just want to move for liquidity's sake, then get him to post it. Plus you also get the added bonus of getting his opinion by default as he likely won't accept your money if he doesn't think it's worth listing with him.
     
  5. Avtar629

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    Thanks all for the detailed advice. I'm sure I'm not the only one who will learn from this. Keep it coming friends!

    Anyways. What about what Namejet said about me ruining my chances of getting bids because in one shot I listed 900 domains (because they were all deleting soon. All from those $1 netfirm specials.

    Not one bid on any!

    Yikes!

    Embarrassing to say the least. But seriously. Was it because as Namejet said too much at one time?

    I can just picture any domainer trying to sift thru 900 of my domains. By page three they'd just move on.

    Plus many were domains with the same keyword or niche or category.

    So basically my domains we're fighting amongst themselves. Never give people too much choices.

    I think this time around I will list 5 max maybe 10. At a time every week or so space them out.

    As far as Shane what about online domain or dnjournal? Or a few other domain bloggers out there?

    Wasn't there some crazy domainer news site thatdid like crazy fake domainer news? I forgot their name.

    People here talked about their news articles being false or fake.
     
  6. Asfas1000

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    @dncafe What auction platform would you suggest, as end users likely won't have an account with any of them ?

    I mean it's a burden to open an account just to place a bid, isn't it ?
     
  7. Avtar629

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    GoDaddy has a huge following in the real world . Everyone thinks GoDaddy when registering domains.

    So more chance for end users on there.
     
  8. JB Lions

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    Yeah, 900 names, not 1 single bid? That is too many at once, I usually do about 20-40,many do more. But I really don't see 900 that much. But that has nothing to do with number of domains you have at auction. I get to those names thru tools, like expireddomains.net. I just see a name, seller or number of domains they have this auction doesn't matter to me, I just care about the name.

    Your issue isn't the amount of domains you have at auction or where you're advertising. It's your domains. My last auction I had 4 recent hand regs that had like 4, 6, 8, 3 bids. To have 900 and not 1 single bid, you're just not picking good domains.
     
  9. jimmy5

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    I'm a beginner with about less than a month in domain investing.One thing i've realised at godaddy is, if someone bids on your auction at a higher value regardless of the number of bids you receive, then your auction has a higher chance of being displayed on the most active section on the home page.So this will happen without having to pay for featured listings.It's not right to say you're not receiving bids, but if your domain name is great, then buyers will come looking for you.
     
  10. dncafe

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    Afternic, in my opinion, gives your domain the most exposure to a potential end user over any of the other platforms.

    When you list your domain at Afternic, it will show up on other domain registrars when you search that domain.

    So if someone goes to GoDaddy or NameCheap for example and searches YourDomain.com, your domain will pop up and say that it's available for $499, and direct that person to a regular sale.

    They don't have to signup for any kind of auction account, they just create a normal account like anyone would when they register their first domain.

    Most people in the US have heard of GoDaddy and would feel comfortable creating an account and buying a domain, whereas most people have never heard of SEDO
     
  11. wurdd

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    Why not give us 10 of the best names from your list of 900. I'll tell you in 15 seconds what you've got. Also, if you're not taking the time to build a website on any of the domains, that tells me what you've got, too. I'm willing to bet it's the quality of the names, not NJ or GD. No amount of money you can flush will save a bad domain in a featured listing.
     
  12. Lesson

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    List them on flippa set a reserve price but set your starting bid at $1. You will start getting views immediately and if your domain is good you will start getting bids over time it should meet your reserve but you should also make sure it's a domain that can be end used and put that in the description because you don't want to waste the $25 listing fee.
     
  13. JB Lions

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    I wouldn't go that route, because I think it would be $25 down the drain. That's $25 each domain. He just had 900 at Namejet, he got to list all those for free. Only pays a percentage if it sells. Unless he wants to post the list again for people to check out. As far as Flippa, I guess you could pay a fee and do a bulk sale. Instead of $25 for each domain to list, list them all for that $25. Dump them, start over.
     
  14. Avtar629

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    I guess agree to disagree. What bothers me is that you and me have both seen some ridiculous domains that are long as hell like "Excercisebicyclesforcheap.com" or something like that sell for 5 figures.

    We all laugh but yup. It happened.

    then we turn around at our own domains and wonder why ours don't sell?

    I really do feel 900 domains in one time an all ending at the same time. makes it difficult for one window shopper to come by and take a look at 900 domains each set of 50 to 100 all expiring at the same time.

    I really think it was just too much sensory overload. or too many choices.

    you can't expect everyone to buy all 100 of your domains just because their auctions are close to ending.

    So I think the plan from now on is to list 5-10 max at a time. and chill.

    Plus DomainShane seems to work well going be the recent domains showcased on there. I saw on Namebio how much they sold for.

    Did this whole selling add space on his website thing just start recently?

    I always wondered how domains got so many bids on Godaddy or Namejet.

    I do think it's a snowball effect.

    all it takes is the one bid.

    Isn't that how it works on these sites like Godaddy or Namejet?

    If you don't get at least one bid on your domain you can't go to the "after party"? so to speak?

    I know there is the "pre-release". I've seen bids on Namejet for $69 but there are 56 of them.

    I'm assuming all those $69 bids is like a "ticket" to the "actual" auction for that domain for all those bidders right?

    So bottomline you just need a way to get that one bid to get it "on board" then I think it gets more exposure in the "actual" auction.

    then it's all mob mentality. one person see's the bid and bids because there's one bid.

    The assumption is that "someone knows something they don't" that someone else did their "homework" on that domain enough to want to make a bid.

    Also is there a psychological benefit for bidders to see how many views an auction gets?
    do you believe people bid because of the high page views?

    Do you think people have automated systems to pump up the views?

    Are there any other Bloggers or sites like Shane that allow you to pay to advertise on their website? and so apart from Shane who else is as close to good as Shane?
     
  15. Lesson

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    Unless you have a ultra premium I think you would have better luck "selling" on flipa. Of course you can list for free on namejet but what are your chances of selling? Domains and websites go like hotcakes on flippa.
     
  16. Avtar629

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    I'll go take a look in my inbox. I sent the list via email to NJ. might take a while.
     
  17. Avtar629

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    yea I've seen domains packaged with websites and apps and all that stuff on Flippa. I swear I feel some of the people on there paying $5,000 for a "packaged" domain is getting scammed.

    Because why would anyone sell a domain with a website with supposedly generating $5000 a month income sell a domain for $5,000 or less?

    my take is that. Most of the "traffic" on those flippa sites are all from sites like,.......

    https://www.google.com/search?q=buy.....69i57j0l5.4359j0j8&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

    upon winning the auction and taking possession of the domain and website. All the traffic to the website drops like a hot potato.
     
  18. JB Lions

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    If you have 900 domains at NJ, they usually split them up into different days. I have 30 split into 5 different days. Then, I usually don't go to the seller's page, I go thru expireddomains. If you had any domains I would be interested in, I would have found them thru that tool. They probably shouldn't have taken that many at once, especially since it seems this is your first time with them?
     
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  19. Asfas1000

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    You mentioned a bidding war between end users, that's why I'm asking about auction platforms.

    Afternic doesn't offer auctions to my knowledge. Maybe Godaddy would be a good idea as @Avtar629 said , and I was considering eBay too ?
     
  20. wurdd

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    You're over thinking and making this more complicated than it really is. If you offer good domains, the bidders will find them. Buy domains to hold long term and not to flip. Buy names that people can start a business on in the first place. Buy names that people search for - names with at least 5000 searches and over $1 CPC. It's not rocket science like you're making it out to be. Start developing your names, learn HTML and CSS. Quit binge buying domains, it will break you. Quit hand regging names every day. Instead of feeling like you need to go out a reg some new names, go ahead and spend to extend the registration on your best names. It's not about a bunch of tricks and scams to get more bids. It's a skill that's developed over trial and error. It's a lot of research, work, time, effort and a little luck. It's not at all what you're thinking it is.

    And, I'm only referring to dot com names. I'm definitely not smart or brave enough to invest in the new tlds.
     
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  21. Avtar629

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    aaaaaahhhhhh! I see I see. You said that before. I wasn't catching on. Now I get it. I'll have to check expireddomains then to see what that's all about.

    I think at this point since I'm liquidating. I can't expect all my domains will sell but my only hope is the ones that are really good will offset the loss on the really sucky ones.

    That plus of course outbounds.

    bottomline I think Quality over quantity is best. my 900 domain post was just panic really as they all were expiring soon.

    and they mostly were from that stupid Netfirms $1 special? or was it $1.99 years back.

    Plus in all honesty most of the 900 were "decent" not spectacular. but in domaining everybody has an opinion.

    I'll give it a shot this time. The plan is

    ask DomainShane if I can post my domain on his website.maybe a few about 5 if possible

    then maybe get a featured over at Namebio for one domain and link that domain to my entire portfolio on Namejet.

    and then do outbounds to maybe get a bidding war from actual people who have bought similar keyword domains.

    So Domaining.com and DNJournal.com is dead?

    And Namepros does not have an option do a paid featured external domain auction link?

    why? I don't get it.
     
  22. Avtar629

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    yea the problem there is most domainers have no clue how to price their domains. and some overprice their domains and feel they are leaving too much money on the table.

    so they rather put "Make Offer".

    I understand the psychology of a "Buy Now" Button but it's hard to not feel you are settling for a cheap price and the buyer is getting your domain for a steal.
     
  23. Ategy.com

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    He's (@Domain Shane) been doing it at least as long as I've been "officially domaining" which is about 2.5 years now. But it's quite probable he was doing it for years before that.

    I'm not actually sure what his traffic or newsletter numbers are, but I'm thinking there are likely very few who could give a domain as good a chance as he could. That being said .. even he will tell you that if the domain is no good, then nobody can really help it. He's pretty high on the integrity scale, as he's been known to refuse taking people's $10 if he doesn't think it's good enough to have any hope at all.

    In the past I've posted the occasional name from people who actually follow my blog and lists here and NamePros .. I haven't really made it a thing as I'm pretty sure most of the names I'd be flooded with would suck .. lol
     
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    ok ok there. now you are assuming a bit much. But thanks for the "tough love" I appreciate it.

    I guess the point that I'm realizing now about creating this thread isn't about selling my best domains but just selling my decent ones to recoup loss. I mean they don't suck just recent compared to comps. Namebio data really is good and bad at the same time.

    When people see their keyword sell with another domain for $300-$500 and it's a decent keyword people tend to "expect" the same results. but then wonder why it did not end the same results.

    That said. I do have some good domains (I think.) that I think would sell for 4- 5 figures.

    But I hesitate to sell them. like

    360Rehabilitation.com
    Primorsky.com
    VegasBTC.com
    BTCVegas.com
    885888.net
    ChelseaKensington.com
    TheGreaterBay.com
    TheFinex.com
    BitcoinCashApp.com
    VRAR.co
    Deception.co
    DiscussVR.com
    RestaurantVR.com
    EncyclopediaVR.com
    XrayVR.com
    TournamentVR.com
    dnaVR.com
    RealEstateBTC.com
    PropertyBTC.com
    VRAR.it
    VRAR.es

    5gStore.de



    new ones just regged.

    BitcoinBLX.com
    RippleRLX.com
    EthereumELX.com

    IMarketCap.com

    Emarketcaps.com


    EthPoker.com
    CasinoETH.com

    onlinecasinoBTC.com
    ETHOnlinCasino.com

    I could go on but you get the point.

    not looking for "tricks" just the best possible outcome for my future domain auctions.

    I think this time around also. I'll need to auction off my better domains.
     
  25. Avtar629

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    the other question is. 7 day auction at GD (pay $25) vs. 30 days at NJ vs. 90 day auction at GD (Free)

    obviously the longer an auction is the better chance to get eyes on it. but does it really matter?

    can a 7 day auction work the same as a 30 day or 90 day one?

    assuming decent domains not spectacular ones.
     

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