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How do you get "eyes" on your Godaddy,Namejet,Sedo auctions?

Labeled as question in General Domain Discussion started by Avtar629, Mar 12, 2019.

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  1. Ategy.com

    Ategy.com NameCult.com Gold Account VIP

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    I've certainly seen worse names .. and some of them come close .. and going down the list a couple of them even make me stop to think (Deception // co, EthPoker // com) .. but then I continue on. I can't say these were all horrible buys at $1 (although you might wanted to have stopped at $90 to test things out before going to $900) .. but remember that if a domainer is going to buy a domain at NameJet for $69+, then they need to retail it for well into the $xxxx to maintain their portfolio .. and those domains simply aren't going to do that.

    Also .. really don't take this the wrong way .. but if you're wholesaling .. then you're selling to other members here at NamePros for the most part (even if you're selling at NameJet). While it's the quality of domains that matter more than anything else, it probably doesn't help getting people to take you seriously or trust you more if your avatar is a kid talking into a carrot "like a boss". lol .. Similarly .. why Avatar629? Unoriginal old movie title with seemingly random trailing numbers .. I always try hard to take everything everyone has to say fairly .. but despite that fact .. it's hard to get the exact same impression as getting an email from an African prince using the email DeadMou5Rulz626 @ hotmail . com ... If maybe you changed your handle to MarketDN and avatar to your company logo, you might get a few more people taking you seriously and checking out your listings a bit more. Likely wouldn't make too much difference with most names .. but it certainly could make a small difference when you do post better names.

    Anyhow .. best of luck to you with the domains ... send me your list when you do your next batch .. I'll look through it and mention one on my blog (doesn't have to be amazing, just as long as it's equal or better than Deception // co) ;)
     
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  2. Domain Shane

    Domain Shane Top Member DSAD.com Staff PRO ICA Member VIP ★★★★★★★★★★

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    Thanks everyone for the mentions. I didn't really want to spam our services here but I will say I have been going over the domain auctions and writing a post with a little humor, a tiny bit of info, and a list of names I like for 10 years now. And in 10 years we've only not written a list less than 10 days which is pretty consistent. I can tell you that there really only about 1000 domain investors that read each day but of those that read they are some of the biggest domain buyers. That's the industry in general 500-1000 people represent 99% of the business. If you want to sell that is probably who is going to buy. We reach them every day.

    I'd love to help in any way and I appreciate anyone who stops by each day. We already have Josh and Travis writing and Mike Sullivan just joined DSAD so we have one more writer. Adding more as we find people that fit.
     
  3. golan

    golan GolanMedia.com Gold Account VIP

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    Shane, how to list there? The link in your sig leads to i believe your old site.
     
  4. Domain Shane

    Domain Shane Top Member DSAD.com Staff PRO ICA Member VIP ★★★★★★★★★★

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    There's a contact form on DSAD.com or you can use my gmail addy which is [email protected]
     
  5. Vito

    Vito Domain Names Matter Gold Account VIP Trusted Contest Holder ★★★★★★★★★★

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    Some great comments here so far.

    Spending too much money on advertising your domain name auctions is always a delicate balance if your domains are not too worthy of a $x/$xx/$xxx advertising expense. You have to be honest with yourself and figure out which ones are worth $5, $10, $50, ad expense.

    Outbound Marketing is #1.
    (2) actual end users who need/want the domain for their business is the best you can hope for and worth the work. Of course, 900 domains is impossible to do that with.

    I would start with a few of your best names and try that route if you want the most bang for your buck. That is free but a lot of work. The more work I put into my sales, always translates into more sales for me.

    I also agree with Ategy that the image you show here will affect peoples image of you which translates into loss of money when dealing with other serious domainers. Might be worth a few sales to you, if you try a re-brand.

    As for the specifics of where to advertise your auctions, I believe I have done 99% of every available advertising opportunity possible. Here are a few I have used that I believe have been helpful to me in my domain sales.

    1) NameBio.com - Ran by @Michael - NameBio is the most read site when it comes to all domain name sales and they always have their auction picks for the day.

    2) TLDinvestors.com - Ran by @equity78 - Ray has a list posted every day of domain picks and his blog has a lot of eyeballs w/money. The promoted domains really pop at the end of his list.

    3) DSAD.com - As people including @Domain Shane have said here in this thread, They also have a domain auction list everyday and a lot of eyeballs w/money. Also, whoever is writing the list there that day, usually has a nice comment to go along w/your domain.

    4) Whatever Social Media you have. Paid promoted posts/tweets, BUT you have try to target your audience as specific & tasteful as possible. Think how your domain name can be helpful to them when posting, and not just a slam fest saying gimme your $ for my crap. Many domainers just spam the hell out of their social media and it immediately turns the blinders on when doing so.

    Hope this helps a bit.
     
    Last edited: Mar 14, 2019
  6. EbookLover

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    It appears that there are a lot of people who just don't understand this.
     
  7. EbookLover

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    If the quality of your 900 domains was 80% bad, no one is going to sift through all 900 to find a gem unless they have some tool they are using to look for specific keywords. But that isn't like sifting through 900 domains.

    You listed your domains too late. You said they were all coming up for renewal soon. Well, if a person was interested in a domain but not THAT interested, he may take a chance and try to catch it instead.
     
  8. Avtar629

    Avtar629 MarketDN.com Gold Account VIP

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    I know deception.co sounds odd but just give "deception technology" a Google and you'll get it.

    I don't own many single dictionary words. This one is a url shorten for Deception.com.
     
  9. Avtar629

    Avtar629 MarketDN.com Gold Account VIP

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    That's right. That's right.
     
  10. Avtar629

    Avtar629 MarketDN.com Gold Account VIP

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    like most I stumbled in here. did not get the business plan. basically did it "aol" style. lol (Damn I'm old) really had no intention of staying but liked the conversations on here so I stayed. Did not really look into changing my profile name. just seemed like a hassle. I think you have to pay extra to change it I think?

    As far as Afternic, I had some domains on there before but decided to remove them all because I was just impatient. This time around soon as I listed my domains on there I got two inquiries almost immediately.

    I'm still doing outbounds. hard stuff but finally getting the hang of it.

    I have exact match domains for products and services similar to ones I've seen sell at auction.

    The other thing to is I want to list domains for auction on here to get back my reg fees and renewals with some profit but when you see auctions starting at $1 how can I go and start an auction with reserve at $10? or $20? or $30? Never seen any for auction like that.

    That's why I never auction stuff on here.
     
  11. EbookLover

    EbookLover Top Member VIP ★★★★★★★★★★

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    You have a gold account so you can change your name. No more money required according to
    this page
     
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  12. EbookLover

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    You can set a reserve if you like. You can also set a BIN. But for the most part, I agree, most domains seem to go for peanuts here. However, I do not watch NP auctions too closely so I could be wrong. And to be frank, most of the domains I have seen for $1 aren't worth even that, lol.

    Personally, I would go through your list and put the ones you really don't want to renew up for auction at $1 here on NP. You may not get more than a dollar for all the ones you list, but you may get over a dollar for some. IN the end, you may make some profit (albeit a small one). But it does take a little work for just $1 so depending on how you look at it, you may just find it best to just let them drop and forget about them. It's really up to you.

    One thing that selling some domains for cheap here on NP will do for you is beef up your trader ratings. If that means anything to you, your in a good position to do this.
     
  13. creataweb

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    No reserve allowed for NP auctions just FYI - good luck with the sales bro (y)
     
  14. EbookLover

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    ooops, sorry. No reserve. that's what I meant to say :xf.grin:
     
  15. Ategy.com

    Ategy.com NameCult.com Gold Account VIP

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    No! You can change your username as part of having a Gold Account .. please PLEASE PLEASE go here:
    https://www.namepros.com/forums/con...2/create-thread?title=Username Change Request

    Also, you can change your profile picture at any time (again please PLEASE PLEASE do so ... lol)
    https://www.namepros.com/account/avatar


    Yeah .. I think reserve system would be very difficult to implement on NP. You simply need to set the opening bid to what your reserve would have been.
     
  16. uglydork

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    The most bang for your buck is domain Shane for sure
     
  17. Avtar629

    Avtar629 MarketDN.com Gold Account VIP

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    What's up Rich! How's it going? Thanks for the input.

    since it's a $10 for one day option. what do the pros do? just the one day. that brings up the obvious question of "timing" when do you order it? at the beginning of the 30 NJ auction or the last day? or in the middle of the 30 days?

    and not to mention when you do a 90 auction at GD.

    what about if go with a 90 day auction at GD when would you place a Shane ad?

    has anyone ever ordered more than just a one day ad at Shane? what's the end result? is a one day $10 enough what about a 5 day at $50? or 30 day at $300?

    would it make a difference?

    or just overkill?

    Also I believe the time of the week on where to start an auction and order a Shane $10 ad is key right? like most domainers have day jobs and don't read Shane's site till the Friday or Saturday or Sunday?
     
  18. slader23

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    Namebio.com ads work best, clicks are also trackable.
     
  19. Domain Shane

    Domain Shane Top Member DSAD.com Staff PRO ICA Member VIP ★★★★★★★★★★

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    In my opinion, the best is to do one to let people know of the auction and one on the day it closes when most people bid. The rest has diminishing returns.

    I can't turn a bad name into a good one, I can only help people see it when they may not have and the name does its own work. As many will tell you, I also won't take money from someone who has a name that I don't think I can earn my $10.
     
  20. equity78

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    Agree 100%, the last day is when you get people actually bidding and caught up in bidding frenzy, spending $10 a day for a week can get expensive and probably is less effective.
     
  21. Avtar629

    Avtar629 MarketDN.com Gold Account VIP

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    Alright then. I guess I'm at a point where I need each and every one of my auctions to make a profit. really need them all to sell for decent money. not even expecting big money anymore. just recoup losses and make some tiny profit and move on to developing.

    So what about doing a combo of
    Domain Shane $10 for one domain at the beginnng and at the end for grand total of $20.
    and doing the domainer package at Namebio for a total of $144 a year I think. which will give me a discount for the monthly featured listing option
    and then listing on Domaining for I think $10?

    what about DNJournal? or OnlineDomains? or Elliot Silver? or MorganLinton?

    Overkill?
     
  22. .X.

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    You really don't need to spend any money on a listing fee at all, Auctioning domain names here at NPs is your best bet if you just want to flip them for a small ROI, This place is very effective and efficient for auctioning names.

    You seem to be very tied to the Etherium and VR niche, which is ok, but you are limiting your selling leverage by clinging to tight to only two niches IMO.

    If you didn't get any action at Namejet, you might "Hold" for the moment and re-evaluate, your names were in front of countless domainers and brokers, so you might want to more examine namebio and do some research before sticking them back out there for sale.
     
  23. Ategy.com

    Ategy.com NameCult.com Gold Account VIP

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    I'd have to agree with @.X. .. if the rest of the 900 domains are like the others you listed, then you likely will not get your promotion money back when wholesaling.

    If you simply want to limit your losses then maybe package them up into portfolio auctions .. instead of getting 900 x $0, you might get a few hits .. it would also make the promotion money you invest a little more worthwhile as right now you're talking about $30/domain promotion = $ 27,000.

    So maybe do a bit of A/B testing .. try listing some here at namepros for $1 .. then also make a few portfolio packages. If you have a few good domains listed at the top you like could get a few sold at or around $1/domain (at wholesale)

    As far as I know, @Domain Shane's promotion isn't limited to auction platforms (best to confirm with him though), as I think he can also link to NamePros auctions, where the $20 investment might be worth it depending on the portfolio. Depending on how the sales go you might also want to try packaging portfolios at Flippa as well and combine that with $10 or $20 with Shane.

    Again, be careful though .. right now you have very limited losses at $1 per domain .. investing more more money into names that didn't get a single bid could significantly magnify your losses.


    BTW .. is Network Solutions $1 promo limitless? I always though it was limited to 5 domains? Do you have like 180 accounts with them? I could only imagine what kind of nightmare managing that would be! lol
     
  24. EbookLover

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    I have to say something about the name thing.

    I thought about this a lot and did a little research. There are quite a few pro members on this forum that have names that are similar to Avatar629 in that they aren't their real names, they are not business names, and they are, as such, equally as unprofessional. I won;t point them out because you can seek them out yourself and that would be silly to drag them into such a debate.

    I bring this up because to be a Pro member, you have to have verifiable success in this business. Yet they operate on this forum with "unprofessional" pseudonyms and probably have since they first joined NP.

    So I think it is far stretch to tell someone who is struggling that their forum name has anything to do with it. lol.

    Now some of y'all might be thinking, hey, you're biased because you have a fake name. Well that may or may not be true but it's irrelevant because the fact that many pro members use "unprofessional" names pretty much trumps that and everything else, really.

    The problem lies in the domain names, the amount of names, the approach and everything else.
     
  25. Daniel Lorentsen

    Daniel Lorentsen Established Member

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    I've paid for the featured listing on namebio a few times. It depends a lot on the quality of the domain if it works though.
     

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