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Yes totally agree @VRdommy not expecting an influx of offers but crossing my fingers that the term does get some mentions going fowards.

I also did a few others at the time such as:

Volumetric Cameras
Volumetric Cams
Volumetric Pictures
Volumetric Glasses
Volumetric Lens

Yes would not advise an influx of registrations.
Yes the 2 camera names are great but none of the other is relevant at all.
Perhaps lenses but I can't see the actual need for use.
But who knows. The tech is fairly new (to consumers) and perhaps new uses will be found for it.

I will say that this is a lot of the new tech in facial recognition.
They use the volumetric data to pin important locations on your face.
Like distance between your eyes and chin shape combined with cheekbone structure.

Yes a map of your face but does not include a photo of your face. Just the dim data.
And they are now able to extract that data from a 2d photo or video for comparison.
Even retailers are starting to use the data to track where you go in a store and how much time you spend there. Since there is not regulation of that except in 2 states here in the US, it is dangerous if combined to your credit card info at check-out. -KNOW YOUR CUSTOMER- has new meaning.
But that is a topic for some other forum.

Edit: BTW, Facebook is big on this tech. Their angle is to give retailers and others info based on what you do on Facebook as background profile as to your likes / dislikes / interest so they can better market you when shopping and after you come home since they know where in the store you were shopping and what you did purchase vs what you only looked at.
So if you fit the right profile, you may get a discount ecoupon to get you back in the store.
The retailers share their info w/facebook to better market online.
Biometric data (volumetric data) can be pulled from photos and video's of you posted by anyone and associations are born. So your friends may get marketed also. (or worse)
 
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I'm not sure about volumetric photography, but remember at CES Intel demostrated volumetric video:-


(12:25)

Said it was a long way off though, due to the amount of data it takes to make one of these videos.

Volumetric .Video
 
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eCommerceAR / e-CommerceAR

The Next Generation Of iPhone Will Support Augmented Reality - Is Retail Ready?

Since the early days of e-commerce, one of the major challenges has been recreating the ‘touch and feel’ experience in the online world. We have come a long way from selling hard goods like books and electronics online, to soft goods like apparel and accessories. Yet, it feels like we are not there yet, but fortunately, we are now on the precipice of fundamentally changing the way consumers shop via their smartphones and tablets. Using a powerful technology known as augmented reality, consumers can now "touch" - or at least realistically visualize in 3D - products in real life environments without leaving the comfort of their home.

While the term "augmented reality," or AR, sounds futuristic, this complex, fun and incredibly practical technology is simply the integration of digital information with the user's real environment in real-time. Unlike "virtual reality," which creates an entirely artificial environment, AR overlays new information onto a real life scenario. The growth potential in these markets, specifically as it relates to retail, is huge. IDC estimates that the virtual and augmented reality markets will explode from $5.2 billion in 2015 to $162 billion in 2020.

Read more: https://www.forbes.com/sites/nitinm...gmented-reality-is-retail-ready/#11f002311a91
 
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Sorry I asked that volumetric question lol

This is my last additions:

3D Volumetric (.com)
Volumetric Mapping (.com)
 
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Sorry I asked that volumetric question lol

This is my last additions:

3D Volumetric (.com)
Volumetric Mapping (.com)
The most famous LAST words...LOL...
There must have been 50 names reg'd from that conversation last night...LOL...
After I found my old short list, I went looking this morning to see if some of the likely candidates on it were still there and all of them were reg'd yesterday'.... LOL...
But, I have advised against it. I don't want to be blamed for anyone's investment that does not work-out.

Edit: Good luck to those that ignored that.
 
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Not buying any more?

VVRcams (available)
VVRCamera (available)
VVRMapping (available)

Tons more V V R + keywords available, sorry but Volumetric doesent pass the hearing/radio test, most would spell it wrong, more likely to abbreviate it.
 
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Mr is probably the better choice really it's what most men are called :-P
 
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You only have to put a cardboard on someone's head to make them understand this is different than they imagined and then put a Vive on their head to understand how different.
We probably all understand that. But it can only spread so fast. It's not like it is a highly contagious disease spreading unintentionally or something.

The industry has done a poor job of 'selling this' so far ! ... I really mean that.
I don't understand that but I think for some reason, it is intentional.
Every time one of them has set-up to do demo's in Best Buy stores or a cell carrier outlet, they are removed before the promo can get started.

I read to many estimates, it's hard to believe anyone who can't sight the reasons with fundamentals for what they say. It is not a hard sell once experienced with practical applications (compelling content).

So here is one more to lead you on a little more... but interesting anyway...
http://www.mediapost.com/publicatio...eadset-market-growing-58-a-year-to-reach.html

And then you see something like this...
https://uploadvr.com/googles-next-phone-box-might-also-vr-headset/

While I may sound full of myself at the moment, I do think I can make a much better argument of/for growth than any of the so-called experts we have been hearing from the last couple of years.
It was not exactly their fault. They were handed numbers that did not explain the detail or they did not look at them deep enough to understand that most of what was being counted as current VR deployments were Cardboard. And without any first hand experience then, they would not have known the difference. I remember well questioning the numbers 16 months ago in the VR thread.

So for some good news, I think the 'over estimating' is done now. The above and new estimates will probably be underestimating actual deployments of real VR/AR/MR hardware. While there is a lot of hardware to show-up this year, and if I count all that new hardware for this year as currently deployed, we still have not seen half of the offerings to come in the next 3 years.
So, it's all up to the compelling content and word of mouth to SELL IT because nobody seems to be doing that (referring to the top of the post).
 
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I don't do these hackz very often but it seemed to be a cool one...

ForeDgolf (if you don't understand that one, ask a golfer) TM'able - Brandable
 
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Nothing really special but i had my eyes on this one for 2 weeks before it dropped.

In king:

HGGirl

Domain Status Deleted And Available Again
Whois History 62 records have been archived since 2007-09-27
IP History 84 changes on 34 unique IP addresses over 12 years
Registrar History 3 registrars with 3 drops

I am gambling on the possibility holo(gram) can be shorted to HG. I can see some young ones will say / shorten "i have seen this HG girl" to friends. I only need a small percentage to shorten / search for this keyword and it will be worth the renewal fees / building up value along the way for a end user.

HoloGirl is the best one but was currently not available to reg lol.

I have missed to drop of vcasino(c0)... also followed this one closely for 2 weeks but i had some other things on my mind the last couple of days and i was to late to reg it when it dropped 2 days ago. It has been scooped up by some russian guy.
 
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Nothing really special but i had my eyes on this one for 2 weeks before it dropped.

In king:

HGGirl

Domain Status Deleted And Available Again
Whois History 62 records have been archived since 2007-09-27
IP History 84 changes on 34 unique IP addresses over 12 years
Registrar History 3 registrars with 3 drops

I am gambling on the possibility holo(gram) can be shorted to HG. I can see some young ones will say / shorten "i have seen this HG girl" to friends. I only need a small percentage to shorten / search for this keyword and it will be worth the renewal fees / building up value along the way for a end user.

HoloGirl is the best one but was currently not available to reg lol.

I have missed to drop of vcasino(c0)... also followed this one closely for 2 weeks but i had some other things on my mind the last couple of days and i was to late to reg it when it dropped 2 days ago. It has been scooped up by some russian guy.

I suppose nearly any two letters before a keyword like 'girl' is worth a few dollars gamble.

But just to point out that 'HG' is not a shortened version of 'Holo', at least not when spoken. Maybe a shortened version of 'Hologram', but we already know from 50 years experience since day one that that gets shortened as 'Holo'. Also, since it's only value is when read (or rather typed), the double g detracts from it a bit too (hGGirl.com)
 
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I suppose nearly any two letters before a keyword like 'girl' is worth a few dollars gamble.

But just to point out that 'HG' is not a shortened version of 'Holo', at least not when spoken. Maybe a shortened version of 'Hologram', but we already know from 50 years experience since day one that that gets shortened as 'Holo'. Also, since it's only value is when read (or rather typed), the double g detracts from it a bit too (hGGirl.com)
I can only add that whenever you shorten a name... you are on your own with it. It's a hack.
It's perhaps different if you monitor social media for the terms developing in circle's.
You need some level of instant recognition with the potential consumer.
 
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Why VR vs AR is an obsolete argument :

http://venturebeat.com/2017/03/18/why-vr-vs-ar-is-an-obsolete-arment/

The writer's point is that they are two different technologies that aren't competing with each other, rather like TV (virtual reality) and mobile (augmented reality).

Anyway, interesting that he doesn't use the term mixed reality at all. Tech writers still not getting the message. I get the feeling that a lot depends on what Apple calls their version of mixed reality/hologram/3D AR. If they stick with AR (perhaps using another inhouse term as well for the actual device) then the term AR will certainly remain bigger than MR whatever Microsoft does.

Still feel that while there's uncertainty over the adoption of the terms MR and AR, a lot of companies will play safe and go for tried and tested brands such as 3D, virtual etc.
 
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Why VR vs AR is an obsolete argument :

http://venturebeat.com/2017/03/18/why-vr-vs-ar-is-an-obsolete-arment/

The writer's point is that they are two different technologies that aren't competing with each other, rather like TV (virtual reality) and mobile (augmented reality).

Anyway, interesting that he doesn't use the term mixed reality at all. Tech writers still not getting the message. I get the feeling that a lot depends on what Apple calls their version of mixed reality/hologram/3D AR. If they stick with AR (perhaps using another inhouse term as well for the actual device) then the term AR will certainly remain bigger than MR whatever Microsoft does.

Still feel that while there's uncertainty over the adoption of the terms MR and AR, a lot of companies will play safe and go for tried and tested brands such as 3D, virtual etc.

Just a hint though it's not just Microsoft.

I could show you lots of tech articles over the last five days that shows a positive spin on MR, I just decided to stop posting MR stuff.

This is the vice president "Ryan Fink" of AtheerAir who I believe were another company once thought to be AR:

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Tech editors are not talking about MR because it's not really with us yet. But you need to understand that the same way VR & AR shouldn't be compared applies to AR & MR. They are two different techs ;)
 
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Why VR vs AR is an obsolete argument :

http://venturebeat.com/2017/03/18/why-vr-vs-ar-is-an-obsolete-arment/

The writer's point is that they are two different technologies that aren't competing with each other, rather like TV (virtual reality) and mobile (augmented reality).

Anyway, interesting that he doesn't use the term mixed reality at all. Tech writers still not getting the message. I get the feeling that a lot depends on what Apple calls their version of mixed reality/hologram/3D AR. If they stick with AR (perhaps using another inhouse term as well for the actual device) then the term AR will certainly remain bigger than MR whatever Microsoft does.

Still feel that while there's uncertainty over the adoption of the terms MR and AR, a lot of companies will play safe and go for tried and tested brands such as 3D, virtual etc.
I seen that article yesterday.
For names, it's about the actual adoption of the term and to what it actually means in the eye of the consumer. No matter what anyone thinks or says it is, it is about the marketing of the consumer.

It was not a good analogy. And I did understand his point. There is no 'better' tech. Just the one that meets the need of or just appeals to you more as a practical perception. I have been making that point here.

But, to extend his analogy, the hardware does not compete (yet) between TV and mobile.
But because the 'medium delivered' is crossing that line to mobile, you could say it is coming in a non-direct way. In the future, Folks may decide not to buy a TV when they can do what they want in a mobile device (even with 2D media) and view it even better/larger through a VR Goggle or like device and do it cheaper with something they can take with them on the go. (I used my original DK1 for the same after making a skew adapter and feeding it video in the form of a DVD movie... ...it's better than iMax but could not take it on the go)

But the 'Medium' delivered is not exactly competing per-Se, but it is as competing forces find new avenues to extend to a changing market as a new opportunity.

But it is all about the medium. Not the hardware. If anyone wants to sell you hardware, they are selling you access to the medium. And that is the bulk focus for me in names.
You might have a 'golf game' and that could match anything.
But if you make a point to brand it a 'VR golf game' in one form or another, being many ways to do that,
you have specifically ruled out what it is not.

So for names, it is strictly about the NEED to make a distinction in marketing.
That is where keyword value comes from.
'IF' it is there, domains will be needed to fill that marketing distinction.
The higher the need and volume for it (breath and depth), the higher the value of it and the more will sell.

I will say most all of my focus with what I have actually been buying the past year are the more universally accepted terms and I'm not done buying them. Most recognize that they are likely to produce more than one format of media. There will still be needs out there for individual media but the demand for universal descriptors will obviously be higher.
But make sure you understand the difference between how the company is branding themselves and how they brand the products they produce.
 
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ARPVP / VRPVP / MRPVP / PVPMR
 
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A sale I just saw on namebio

Video360.com
6,000 USD
Namejet
 
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Why VR vs AR is an obsolete argument :

http://venturebeat.com/2017/03/18/why-vr-vs-ar-is-an-obsolete-arment/

The writer's point is that they are two different technologies that aren't competing with each other, rather like TV (virtual reality) and mobile (augmented reality).

Anyway, interesting that he doesn't use the term mixed reality at all. Tech writers still not getting the message. I get the feeling that a lot depends on what Apple calls their version of mixed reality/hologram/3D AR. If they stick with AR (perhaps using another inhouse term as well for the actual device) then the term AR will certainly remain bigger than MR whatever Microsoft does.

Still feel that while there's uncertainty over the adoption of the terms MR and AR, a lot of companies will play safe and go for tried and tested brands such as 3D, virtual etc.

Interesting that Robert Scoble and evangelist Theo Priestley is also realizing that tech editors are still not getting the message as you mentioned:

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Interesting specs for combining all techs

 
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