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Hijacked Domain cwr.com

Located in Warnings and Alerts started by Daehler Ralph, Jan 3, 2019.

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  1. Daehler Ralph

    Daehler Ralph Upgraded Member Blue Account

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    I have a very important message for all domainers. I have bought 1 month ago the domain cwr.com (Registrar Networksolutions) over Sedo for USD 19950 and the transfer happened successful after a few problems with an invalid Authorization Code for a transfer to my GoDaddy account, I decided to takeover the domain to my account by Networksolutions. But yesterday Network Solution has transferred the domain back to the old owner without any information. I have opened a ticket by Network Solution and they explained me that the domain was hijacked and sold later and also back transferred to the old owner.
    Sedo hasn't checked well the whois-Informations with the seller contact information, which was somebody from Mexico.
    Now I have lost my money and for Sedo is the task closed when the domain is transferred.
    A warning on all domaines that can happen to everybody which buy a domain on a non-registrar-platform like Sedo.
     
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  2. wwwweb

    wwwweb Top Member VIP

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    What is the name of the seller?
     
  3. Daehler Ralph

    Daehler Ralph Upgraded Member Blue Account

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    Alejandro Garcia Briseno
    Ave 65 esquina Calle M 10 L 1

    77712 Playa del Carmen
    Mexico
     
  4. moe

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    Probably same guy
     
  5. alcy

    alcy Top Member VIP

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    how u paid sedo?
     
  6. maxtra

    maxtra Upgraded Member Gold Account VIP

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  7. Daehler Ralph

    Daehler Ralph Upgraded Member Blue Account

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    Money Transfer.
     
  8. DomainRecap

    DomainRecap Established Member

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    Usually people are trying to get out of NetSol, not transfer back in.
     
  9. maxtra

    maxtra Upgraded Member Gold Account VIP

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    PSA:

    Do not do any business with anyone named Alejandro Garcia or Paty Mar from Mexico

    Might also use additional aliases
     
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  11. Daehler Ralph

    Daehler Ralph Upgraded Member Blue Account

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    The address
    This names and adresses are guaranteed faked. But why happens this with so many netsol accounts?
     
  12. maxtra

    maxtra Upgraded Member Gold Account VIP

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    Yep

    According to @Acroplex:

    "There's about 125 more linked to that account; I only shared the LLL kind after verifying odd changes in ownership. They all have in common previous yahoo/AOL/Comcast etc. accounts. Others are linked to domains that dropped, and re-registered - a common domain hijacking technique."

    Very sorry this happened to you and hope you get this resolved
     
  13. 70ym

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    Does sedo responsible for this transaction?
     
  14. MapleDots

    MapleDots Domain Properties 2010 - 2019 VIP

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    It's probably not hijacked, you probably bought stolen property.

    Due prudence just like you do when you buy a house is always indicated. One does a title search and a domain should be researched in a similar fashion before large sums of money changes hands.

    If you look carefully there were probably clues that the domain was stolen or similar.

    Not saying I don't feel your pain but man you have to be careful buying domains nowadays. If it sounds to good to be true then it probably is.
     
  15. Keith

    Keith Top Member VIP ★★★★★★★★★★

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    Completely disagree.

    The expectation is that the seller/brokerage has vetted the listing. In this case it’s Sedo, a seller of millions in domains.

    I’d sue them immediately for transfer of stolen goods. They are supposed to ensure that what they sell is legitimate. They are also assuming that transfer of goods is final, upon payment from buyer.
     
  16. ecomslice

    ecomslice Established Member

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    There might be a level where contacting previous victims. Collecting information and submitting to cyber crimes units I could result in an arrest. Would at least prevent future stress for many others.
     
  17. MapleDots

    MapleDots Domain Properties 2010 - 2019 VIP

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    As much as I would love to agree with you Keith it just does not happen, things slip through.

    1. We know this has happened before on Sedo, we know stolen domains have slipped through.

    2. Somewhere in their T.O.S. they will protect their ASSets

    3. Suing them could easily cost more than what you paid on the domain in the first place.

    The easiest course of action is to do a little homework after you win a domain and before you hand them the money.
     
  18. mayazir

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    If each domain could have a visible whois with all owners history, dates and name servers, it could be more difficult to scam..
    I mean the buyer sees the domain had owner or name server changes a short time ago and contact the ex owner for confirmation.

    Or I am wrong?
     
  19. Internet.Domains

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    So are consumers supposed to just allow and/or accept stolen domains to be "slipped through?"

    As a consumer there has to always be a reasonable expectation that the goods you are buying are just that, good.

    This is basic consumer protection that often seems to go missing in the domain industry.
     
  20. Daehler Ralph

    Daehler Ralph Upgraded Member Blue Account

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    If the whois-information (owner from USA) would have been checked seriously (not private) and compared with the seller information (from Mexico) on the sales purchase agreement then the sale wouldn't have been happened. That's a shame.
     
    Last edited: Jan 4, 2019
  21. Argentum

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    That's why i always request transfer away to my own registrar on any escrow transaction.
    Netsol again won title as worst/expensive/unsecure registrar out there.

    As Sedo not check deeply sellers it must refund funds to buyer, that's not a usual situation and they can afford for themselves to refund buyer and try to find fake seller as they have all private data of him (bank accounts etc).
     
  22. carob

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    Client cannot see seller info on Sedo until after paying and receiving the domain - only Sedo can see the seller info before that.

    Probably like Escrow.com Sedo will say you have to do your own due diligence, that they are just providing an secure exchange of money for domain with no assurances beyond that. That was covered at length in another thread about a stolen domain being taken from a Netsol account: https://www.namepros.com/threads/resolved-domainer-loses-26k-on-a-stolen-domain.1068888/

    Netsol are famous for grabbing domains, it is a really risky place to keep a domain.
     
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  23. Daehler Ralph

    Daehler Ralph Upgraded Member Blue Account

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    I have allready contacted SEDO and they told me that the case is closed after the transfer and they cannot return the money and doing anything more.
    I am leaving now Network Solutions with all of my domains to Godaddy.
    NetSol is too unsecure and expensive too for me.
     
    Last edited: Jan 4, 2019
  24. BestDomains2828

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    Am very sorry about this situation.
     
  25. maksimfa

    maksimfa Top Member VIP Trusted Contest Holder

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    So was this a sale on Sedo platform or was it a listing sold by Sedo? i.e. represented by their own brokers?

    If as a platform... yeah, I get it... gives them a black eye.
    But... if it was a name sold by one of their own brokers... oh I would absolutely be suing and quite winnable case.
     

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