.tv Grow up!!

[Len]

It's time some of you grew up and stopped running around like headless chickens everytime somebody reports something negative about .tv.
Do you know what this looks like to outsiders who know very little about the extension?.... The impression is that nobody has a clue and that .tv is going to implode at any moment!!
Why are things being brought up time and time again, even when the answer has been given out numerous times? Either some are not listening or don't want to listen.
I am all for healthy debate but what is going on here is mass hysteria!!!
I have noticed that these things are being stirred up by a select few who jump on the negativity bandwagon every time it rolls on by, who seem to have an agenda to destroy this extension. I will not name names because you know who you are.
There are a lot of people on this forum that are really becoming pissed with this and it won't be long before there is an exodus if things continue. From what I see it appears that many have already left or rarely make an appearance these days.
I didn't join this forum to see my .tv's devalued by other's ranting about how bad things are in the .tv world when in reality they are not. Don't blame the ext for your mistakes, especially those that purchased 100's of crap names and are now crying that .tv sucks because they didn't sell.

This is really simple, if you don't like .tv stay away from the forum! Why are you here in the first place?

 

[-db-]

...people like snoop and a couple others now are "winning" and getting the great .tv forum members out of here...

Snoop is NOT the anti-TV evil-force that you guys make him out to be. Some of you could learn from him, if you would put away your pride for a moment and just 'listen' without immediately taking offense by everything he says. Yes, he has issues with .TV and he expresses them. That's his right. But he does not deserve to be treated with such animosity or singled out. It seems the man can barely open his mouth these days without getting bashed from every direction, and called a troll. Snoop is a respected and successful domainer, and while he might be blunt and refuse to sugar coat his opinions, he is most definitely not chasing away our members.

If you want some examples of REAL trolls... believe me, I can show you plenty, and Snoop is not one of them.

Meanwhile, equity78 is running around trying to keep everyone happy, walking a tight rope. He works very hard on this .TV forum, and it's not fair that he often winds up with people pulling him in both directions trying to test his loyalties. I wouldn't blame him if he just quit and left. Hopefully he won't do that because we need him. This .TV forum would even exist, and certainly wouldn't still be around if not for him. And you will notice that he doesn't flame people or go crazy when somebody says something he disagrees with. Instead, he replies with facts and logic. He doesn't call the person(s) names and accuse them of being trolls or trouble makers. Instead he tries to prove them wrong.

Some of you guys need to grow a thicker skin and start focusing on the positive things instead of obsessing on the negative ones. If somebody says something about .TV you think is wrong or unfair, don't get ugly about it. Prove them wrong. Follow equity78's lead.

Damn it, this post has used up all my energy and now I have to go take a nap.

 

[equity78]

I appreciate the kind words Tim, now I have always made it clear I am not fond of SNOOP, not because he does not like .tv, I like my portfolio if no one in the world did I could care less no one here or who I know in real life is buying my names for the prices I want, so I truly do not care.

My problem with SNOOP is saying the same thing over and over, or potshotting, or trying to rain on someones thread when they have a sale, he is not part of this community, someone like BULLDOG makes negative posts but he is a contributor so it makes sense someone has likes and dislikes. Its the people who do not even own a .tv coming here and talking crap. Funny thing RJ acknowledges the forum was started with RULES from day 1 that are different from any other section, probably because the forum was set up that way for a reason.

Here is another thing Tim, you ever see .tv mentioned in Domain Discussion ? never if I see a thread I move to here. UNlike other domain interests.

You know Tim you were here the way we talk about .tv as an inside joke me and badger, .mike was .tv sucks. I could care less who here likes .tv never did. Here is another thing find a thread where I ever told anyone .tv was great or to reg a .tv. NEVER. If you like .tv let's talk, I will give you some opinions if you do not I do not want to sell you. You do not need .tv and .tv does not need you.

 

[jeffoverman]

db i agree with most of the things your saying and your thoughts on equity..

when your in the .tv forum and reading the remarks he makes, stabs, same old stuff from him over and over, its getting really old.... he claims there are no .tv sales...then he claims the future of .tv is not bright.... with the amount of times i had been on .tv forum, i think almost everyone can agree to my thoughts on snoop.

the only thing i respect on snoop is his amazing .com names like dolls.com and a few others...yes he is a great domainer, has type in traffic, high value names in .com

but for you to say i am wrong and i seen him over the year and spend hours on .tv forum each day until recently its amazing to hear this.

i respect you and you being a moderator...you cant please everyone, everyone has there thoughts and thinking...just like your thoughts, i have my thoughts...ask people in .tv forum how annoyed they are with snoop and i am sure they will agree with me on things...

my last comment in this thread...read it for whats its worth, but i am worried on where .tv forum is headed and its because of trolls like snoop and others are making the .tv forum not as great as it was when i first joined...having a healthy debate is a good thing and we will have disagreements...thats fine... but what has been occuring for a few months here, its getting really bad.

sorry for responding back like this but i just had to say this and express my worries on this issue and this forum...i am not on as much anymore..

good luck and db-sorry if this upsets you and again i respect your moderation duties on namespros, would be a tough job to do and being a moderator..

glad ray posted... just read when i was writting my post...good points ray...

 

[gr8trfoo]

Guys! You should forget all the yakyak and DEVELOP! If you have the time put *something* up an dgive people a reason to come back. That'll do more for .tv than anything else.

 

[snoop]

i respect you and you being a moderator...you cant please everyone, everyone has there thoughts and thinking...just like your thoughts, i have my thoughts...ask people in .tv forum how annoyed they are with snoop and i am sure they will agree with me on things...

Naturally alot of people are going to be annoyed because lots of people do not want to hear negative comments about extensions that they own (but not all, as a certain % like hearing opinions on both sides).

 

[gr8trfoo]

Naturally alot of people are going to be annoyed because lots of people do not want to hear negative comments about extensions that they own (but not all, as a certain % like hearing opinions on both sides).

I didnt think there were 2 sides to the .tv argument as far as you were concerned, Snopp.

 

[MillersCrossing]

Naturally alot of people are going to be annoyed because lots of people do not want to hear negative comments about extensions that they own (but not all, as a certain % like hearing opinions on both sides).

or............people dont lke hearing about any other ext other than the one they are fully invested in......snoop - if you r continuously trashing.tv, for heavens sake admit it!! why r u on this sub forun so much - r u looking to save poor misguided souls money.........or stir up shit.........i think most people have you pencilled down as a shit stirrer....of course they could all be reading you wrong with your delightful posts....

 

[snoop]

or............people dont lke hearing about any other ext other than the one they are fully invested in......snoop - if you r continuously trashing.tv, for heavens sake admit it!! why r u on this sub forun so much - r u looking to save poor misguided souls money.........or stir up shit.........i think most people have you pencilled down as a shit stirrer....of course they could all be reading you wrong with your delightful posts....

Since when have I not admitted to thrashing .tv? I've had bad things to say about .tv speculation since 2001 and it has greatly underperformed the market all that time, especially for the people who bought premiums.

I've made similar comments about .mobi, .info, .us and in the last 6 months 3 and 4 letter .com's, but it would seem .tv speculators take the cake in terms of not handling non positive viewpoints well (.mobi speculators a close second).

 

[TheBulldog]

Well, I would have to disagree strongly there.......

mobi folks are WAY more rabid then anyone I have seen in here. In fact, I would say that mobi takes the cake in people pouncing on anyone that dares say anything negative about that extension.

.tv will stand up and say video this and video that, but we never tromp in and say "BUT FOR CHRISTS SAKE LOOK AT THE 7 LARGE COMPANIES USING .MOBI!!!!!"

 

[MillersCrossing]

Since when have I not admitted to thrashing .tv? I've had bad things to say about .tv speculation since 2001 and it has greatly underperformed the market all that time, especially for the people who bought premiums.

I've made similar comments about .mobi, .info, .us and in the last 6 months 3 and 4 letter .com's, but it would seem .tv speculators take the cake in terms of not handling non positive viewpoints well (.mobi speculators a close second).

especially people who bought premiums........so the 80k i made from premiums in less than two years was a poor investment??? perhaps its your sweeping generalisations that get on peoples tits

BTW - you should look at it thisway snoop -the smart domainers are fully aware of the .tv risks - they just make solid calculated decisions on each purchase they make and profit accordingly

 

[gr8trfoo]

Since when have I not admitted to thrashing .tv? I've had bad things to say about .tv speculation since 2001 and it has greatly underperformed the market all that time, especially for the people who bought premiums.

I've made similar comments about .mobi, .info, .us and in the last 6 months 3 and 4 letter .com's, but it would seem .tv speculators take the cake in terms of not handling non positive viewpoints well (.mobi speculators a close second).

I'll be the first to admit that you've made some good points about the vulnerability of .tv as a speculative vehicle. However I don't belive the strong negative reaction you oft invoke is accountable merely to the viewpoint. Its more that you have little original to add, its all stuff we've heard before and you just repeat yourself.

I find it interesting that you've made thousands of posts and yet have ZERO trader rating. Once again I question your motives and reasons for being here. On NP, not just this forum.

I've asked in the past if you werent merely trying to knock down .tv in order to lower its price, that perhaps you're actually buying under another alias. Never heard an answer. But I guess it doesnt matter one way or another really.

 

[snoop]

especially people who bought premiums........so the 80k i made from premiums in less than two years was a poor investment??? perhaps its your sweeping generalisations that get on pculated decisions on their . tv portfolioeoples tits

I think overall most people have large losses from premiums. You can see it in the number of drops and sales of names for less than the renewals paid versus the small number of high sales reported.

 

[freedom30]

I hate to put it this way but Snoop and his minions are not the problem to what may be taking place here. We all know the relentless negative opinions he gives the forum and he doesn't seem to have a clue as to why he is even here, save for some obscure mental quasi sado/masochistic enjoyment he may or may not benefit from, but I digress.

The problem is that some give greater weight to negative than positive. That will be self-defeating each and every time. What got me interested in the forum when I first joined here was that there was boundless positive energy and brainstorming and there wasn't a day where I didn't learn something new or want to participate in some venture or another. The cameraderie was deep and we shared a common goal. We had differences but we had more in terms of shared beliefs.

We still do. All we have to do is give appropriate time to the negative opinions, i.e., read the post and stop dwelling on it with wringing hands and the weeping and gnashing of teeth. Let's move on to one that serves our own self-interest. The naysayers(psychic vampires) will always want to suck your energy and confidence out of you and will only succeed if you allow them to. Tune them out, rely on your comrades, ask questions if you don't know some aspect or another, and just get back to the job of having fun with this ever-growing extension.

I say this as one of those who is attempting to fight the naysayers by developing one or two of my own .tv names, which I hope to do by year's end. I have some good names, downloaded some free programs and am learning to develop. Not easy, but not so hard, and this way another .tv web channel is up and running.

Laugh and the world laughs with you. Cry and you cry alone. ​

Have a great evening, guys and gals! :hearts:

 

[snoop]

I find it interesting that you've made thousands of posts and yet have ZERO trader rating. Once again I question your motives and reasons for being here. On NP, not just this forum.

What does a trader rating have to do with the validity of someone's viewpoint?

I've asked in the past if you werent merely trying to knock down .tv in order to lower its price, that perhaps you're actually buying under another alias. Never heard an answer. But I guess it doesnt matter one way or another really.

This is the type of (bizarre) argument that isn't worth discussing. However it is not completely uncommon for people to think like this this in regards to alt extensions on forums though. Their own viewpoints are so rose colored that they cannot fathom how anyone else could not share the same viewpoint, therefore they think it must be some type of conspiracy for someone to not think the extension will do well.

 

[-db-]

perhaps its your sweeping generalisations that get on peoples tits

Did somebody mention Tits?

 

[inspiration100]

Come on guys, be easy on snoop please. Unless there is a direct rule against what he is doing (he would have been banned if so), this is called discussion and thats what forums are for. Geesh, what has namepros turned into.

And what does trader rating have to do with namepros discussion? Zero or me (100+) we all can discuss domains the same. Just cause you invested in a certain type of domain and people tell you what they think about them shouldn't mean you get excited.

LOL @ -db-. Good to see you around -db-!

 

[gr8trfoo]

This is the type of (bizarre) argument that isn't worth discussing. However it is not completely uncommon for people to think like this this in regards to alt extensions on forums though. Their own viewpoints are so rose colored that they cannot fathom how anyone else could not share the same viewpoint, therefore they think it must be some type of conspiracy for someone to not think the extension will do well.

rose colored, moi? naw. i understand there are difficulties with the speculative aspects of .tv's. like i said i agree'd with several of your comments. since i dont consider myself a speculator i'm not at all worried about them. my ltp is development.

so rose colored? poker colored pal. poker colored! and i think it is well worth discussing. i think you my friend are an out and out sham. hey, my pocket book would rather you stayed around talkin s#!+. but money isnt everything.

What does a trader rating have to do with the validity of someone's viewpoint?

this is a trader's forum. i only have genuine respect for my peers who have skin in the game. you dont trade, not even .com's, that i can tell. so as far as i'm concerned your just tennesee toddy. all a$$ and nobody.

it would be a fine thing it you took your bs somewhere else. come back around when you have something new to add that you havnt added 10 times before.

 

[inspiration100]

. you dont trade, not even .com's, that i can tell. so as far as i'm concerned your just tennesee toddy. all a$$ and nobody

oh I'm sorry. Now this website is only for people with lots of cash or domains finster? Common now, I don't remember that.

 

[PVFARKAS]

honestly i agree. i only have about 75 tvs, read the recent schwag, got locked out of a renewal at enom and then bugged out. turns out they honored my premium within 24hrs.

as for snoop, the .mobi subforum sends its love. :o

 

[gr8trfoo]

oh I'm sorry. Now this website is only for people with lots of cash or domains finster? Common now, I don't remember that.

it's not that. But the critter has almost 2000 posts, been here for almost 4 YEARS, and not a single trade! Lots of talk but little honest sincerity. At least the visible kind. Talk is cheap but domains are for real.

Besides, doesn't he have another forum he owns somewhere. I could thinking of someone else but that name sounds familiar.