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GoDaddy pulled the rug out from another Texas abortion whistleblower tip site that charged users $20 to submit a claim about a violation of the state's new abortion law.

Dan Race, GoDaddy's vice president of public relations, told Insider on Thursday that abortionreporter.org violated its terms of service.

"We have informed abortionreporter.org they have violated GoDaddy's terms of service and have 24 hours to move to a different provider," Race said. "The site violated our terms of service, including but not limited to, Section 5.2."

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Trivia Question -

Q. Which (2) web hosts said the Texas Right to Life website ProLifeWhistleblower.com was against their TOS?

A. GoDaddy and Epik.

Cool. Now answer this trivia question:

How many times do the phrases "Far right", "right wing", "alt-right" and "extreme right" appear in virtually every news headline regarding Epik after the hack?

But wait, none of this was ever fueled via politics and left wing ideology right? And if it is/was, motive simply isn't a topic you're interested in, am I right?

Unless of course the topic involves a crazy hard right website being taken down.

Then you're all about talking about it.
 
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Cool. Now answer this trivia question:

How many times do the phrases "Far right", "right wing", "alt-right" and "extreme right" appear in virtually every news headline regarding Epik after the hack?

But wait, none of this was ever fueled via politics and left wing ideology right? And if it is/was, motive simply isn't a topic you're interested in, am I right?

Unless of course the topic involves a crazy hard right website being taken down.

Then you're all about talking about it.

GoDaddy is a massive company, that as a registrar has around as many registrations as the next 10 largest registrars combined. They have a large number of clients across the political spectrum.

You can call them what you want, but Epik has gone out of their way to court and provide services to many fringe websites that were booted by several other registrars/hosts. That is not some secret.

Epik has a disproportionate amount of that type of client compared to their relatively small size.

The bottom line though is GoDaddy and Epik are in agreement that abortion doxxing sites violate their TOS.

This is not a GoDaddy issue. This is not a "free speech" issue. It is an issue to do with an unacceptable website, that both GoDaddy and Epik agree on.

Brad
 
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not sure why this is being turned into a political discussion i hate godaddy just as the next man but their actions here are completely ok in my book before you sign up with any service provider make sure to read the TOS carefully

i think the epik hack topic is bleeding into many other discussions here on namepros
people need to take a chill pill
 
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GoDaddy is a massive company, that as a registrar has around as many registrations as the next 10 largest registrars combined. They have a large number of clients across the political spectrum.

You can call them what you want, but Epik has gone out of their way to court and provide services to many fringe websites that were booted by several other registrars/hosts. That is not some secret.

Epik has a disproportionate amount of that type of client compared to their relatively small size.

The bottom line though is GoDaddy and Epik are in agreement that abortion doxxing sites violate their TOS.

This is not a GoDaddy issue. This is not a "free speech" issue. It is an issue to do with an unacceptable website, that both GoDaddy and Epik agree on.

Brad

Elaborate on what you're referring to when you say Epik has "that type of client".
 
Elaborate on what you're referring to when you say Epik has "that type of client".

Gee, I figured I already explained that pretty well.

You can call them what you want, but Epik has gone out of their way to court and provide services to many fringe websites that were booted by several other registrars/hosts.

They do have a disproportionate amount in relation to their company size.

Brad
 
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GoDaddy is a massive company, that as a registrar has around as many registrations as the next 10 largest registrars combined. They have a large number of clients across the political spectrum.

You can call them what you want, but Epik has gone out of their way to court and provide services to many fringe websites that were booted by several other registrars/hosts. That is not some secret.

Epik has a disproportionate amount of that type of client compared to their relatively small size.

The bottom line though is GoDaddy and Epik are in agreement that abortion doxxing sites violate their TOS.

This is not a GoDaddy issue. This is not a "free speech" issue. It is an issue to do with an unacceptable website, that both GoDaddy and Epik agree on.

Brad

Clearly the website mentioned in this thread is breaking TOS. I'm not debating you there. But what are you defining as "fringe"? What other sites are you referring to? Can you give examples? At least more than just two or three that justifies your claim that Epik carelessly and freely gives a home to what you're defining as "extremism"? Because if you really want to play that game, I'm rather confident that GoDaddy has hosted some "extreme" content as well. But we don't hear you speaking about that, do we? So, yes, please give some examples as to what you're referring to as "fringe" in regards to Epik.
 
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Clearly the website mentioned in this thread is breaking TOS. I'm not debating you there. But what are you defining as "fringe"? What other sites are you referring to? Can you give examples? At least more than just two or three that justifies your claim that Epik carelessly and freely gives a home to what you're defining as "extremism"? Because if you really want to play that game, I'm rather confident that GoDaddy has hosted some extreme content as well. But we don't hear you speaking about that, do we? So, yes, please give some examples as to what you're referring to as "fringe" in regards to Epik.

Epik is well known for courting and hosting websites that were too extreme for other registrars/hosts, by their own definition. There is endless information about that online.

You can do our own research on that, plus it is getting off-topic.

I am sure GoDaddy has some extreme sites as well, on that scale it is just a numbers game. If you have 40-50% of the entire registry market share it happens.

I am not aware of GoDaddy courting extreme websites. Are you? When the abortion doxxing sites came up, they gave them the swift boot.

Back to the main point of this threat. No legitimate host is going to allow this type of website.

Even Epik uber fan Samer can't deny the fact that Epik said this type of site is against their own TOS, as he attacks GoDaddy for giving them the boot.

Brad
 
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Epik is well known for courting and hosting websites that were too extreme for other registrars/hosts, by their own definition. There is endless information about that online.

You can do our own research on that, plus it is getting off-topic.

I am sure GoDaddy has some extreme sites as well, on that scale it is just a numbers game. If you have 40-50% of the entire registry market share it happens.

Back to the main point of this threat. No legitimate host is going to allow this type of website.

Even Epik uber fan Samer can't deny the fact that Epik said this site is against their own TOS, as he attacks GoDaddy for giving them the boot.

Brad

Well, no Brad. I mean, you're the one on this thread who's making the claim that Epik is "clearly" disproportionately hosting "extremism" websites. So, if that's factual, then what examples can you give that supports your claim? I'm sure there's two or three legitimate extreme sites that have slipped though the cracks, but you and others are repeatedly suggesting that Epik is freely hosting radically extreme sites. That is a hefty claim. So again, what are some examples of some "extreme" websites that are being hosted by Epik? Again, you'd have to list more than simply two or three sites to support such a big claim, because anyone can find a moderately sized web host that has inadvertently hosted two or three, truly extreme sites
 
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you and others are repeatedly suggesting that Epik is freely hosting radically extreme sites. That is a hefty claim. So again, what are some examples of some "extreme" websites that are being hosted by Epik?

Twitter #epikfail ... @epikfailsnippets GIYF.
 
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Twitter #epikfail ... @epikfailsnippets GIYF.

Google is your friend? Google is literally the grandfather everything and everyone who's knee deep in political correctness and government surveillance. So let's use Google and see what pops up. Hmmm. Google is telling me that Gab.com is a social platform that has some extreme people on it, so it must be true. It must be way different than other platforms, because it's not as if Facebook/twitter has ever had users live stream actual murders in real time, right? It's not as if literal terrorists are active on both of those social platforms as we speak, right? Nah, that's not extremism, because, it's facebook and twitter.

Google tells me that Parlor is an alt right platform. Although they don't actually reveal why. But hey, that's def right wing extremism right? Because heaven forbid independent thought should stand without being censored.

Google tells me that Epik hosted an AR15 forum who's purpose is to hold discussion for those who have a desire to chat about AR15's, the most popular civilian rifle on the planet. Since guns are evil and must be banned, that must also be an extremist website, right?

But yes, Google is your friend. After all, with friends like that, who needs discernment? They tell you what to think and when to think it.

A user above commented that Epik's willingness and record for hosting numerous extremist websites is "no secret". Weird, because for something that is "no secret" you'd think that some of you would follow through and reveal at least a dozen or more, verifiable extremist websites that Epik was actually hosting. Many of you have bought into the agenda of redefining words like "extremism", and there within lies the rub. I'm willing to bet some of you wouldn't hesitate to label a Covid denier or someone who believes that the vaccine is poison, as an "extremist". This is dangerous territory. Some random, crazy Joe Public has convinced himself that the holocaust "never happened" or that covid is "fake", and people don't hesitate to dox and label that guy as an extremist, but an actual terrorist on twitter who is responsible for murders somehow gets a pass? Feel free to elaborate on those mental gymnastics.

If GoDaddy was ever hacked to this degree, you'd find countless unsavory, domain names that were registered, just the same. And Facebook? People would be utterly shocked at what they'd find if it was ever hacked. How convenient is it to claim that Epik disproportionately hosts a number of extremist websites and domains without having the deets on GoDaddy's database to compare and contrast such a claim? There's so much finger pointing and name calling. So many of you are always attempting to take the moral high ground, while injecting so much ideological bias and group-think bullshit into your worldview that you're unable to see straight.

The irony is that some of you sit there and type how none of this is really about politics while constantly using the trite reasons of "extremism", "alt right" and Rob's religious beliefs as the reasons for why Epik is so horrendous. Epik may have had some shitty security, there's obviously something with that, and I'm not saying that Epik didn't host any legit extremist websites. What I am saying, is that too many of you clearly love to cherry pick dangerous ideological witch hunts, as the world is burning all around you. Too many of you have clearly read the book "everyone I disagree with is an extremist".

The Epik hack is without a doubt, a cancel culture's wet dream, because America (and beyond) is so divided and blood thirsty now. We're on a terrible, terrible path and many don't see it and/or are simply apathetic to all of this, so long as you're selling domains and NFT's. Sadly, many of you naively assume that the very societal structures that support this forum and this industry will somehow automatically "exist" tomorrow despite the path that this world is on. What an utterly selfish, tragic position to have.

The depths of so many people's delusion and inability of seeing beyond duality is palpable, even via an internet connection. And I could seriously care less if some of you don't agree with my rant or believe that it's not "on topic", because the truth is that much of what I stated above is what's fueling many of the issues in today's and (tomorrow's) business landscape.
 
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Google is your friend? Google is literally the grandfather everything and everyone who's knee deep in political correctness and government surveillance. So let's use Google and see what pops up. Hmmm. Google is telling me that Gab.com is a social platform that has some extreme people on it, so it must be true. It must be way different than other platforms, because it's not as if Facebook/twitter has ever had users live stream actual murders in real time, right? It's not as if literal terrorists are active on both of those social platforms as we speak, right? Nah, that's not extremism, because, it's facebook and twitter.

Google tells me that Parlor is an alt right platform. Although they don't actually reveal why. But hey, that's def right wing extremism right? Because heaven forbid independent thought should stand without being censored.

Google tells me that Epik hosted an AR15 forum who's purpose is to hold discussion for those who have a desire to chat about AR15's, the most popular civilian rifle on the planet. Since guns are evil and must be banned, that must also be an extremist website, right?

But yes, Google is your friend. After all, with friends like that, who needs discernment? They tell you what to think and when to think it.

A user above commented that Epik's willingness and record for hosting numerous extremist websites is "no secret". Weird, because for something that is "no secret" you'd think that some of you would follow through and reveal at least a dozen or more, verifiable extremist websites that Epik was actually hosting. Many of you have bought into the agenda of redefining words like "extremism", and there within lies the rub. I'm willing to bet some of you wouldn't hesitate to label a Covid denier or someone who believes that the vaccine is poison, as an "extremist". This is dangerous territory. Some random, crazy Joe Public has convinced himself that the holocaust "never happened" or that covid is "fake", and people don't hesitate to dox and label that guy as an extremist, but an actual terrorist on twitter who is responsible for murders somehow gets a pass? Feel free to elaborate on those mental gymnastics.

If GoDaddy was ever hacked to this degree, you'd find countless unsavory, domain names that were registered, just the same. And Facebook? People would be utterly shocked at what they'd find if it was ever hacked. How convenient is it to claim that Epik disproportionately hosts a number of extremist websites and domains without having the deets on GoDaddy's database to compare and contrast such a claim? There's so much finger pointing and name calling. So many of you are always attempting to take the moral high ground, while injecting so much ideological bias and group-think bullshit into your worldview that you're unable to see straight.

The irony is that some of you sit there and type how none of this is really about politics while constantly using the trite reasons of "extremism", "alt right" and Rob's religious beliefs as the reasons for why Epik is so horrendous. Epik may have had some shitty security, there's obviously something with that, and I'm not saying that Epik didn't host any legit extremist websites. What I am saying, is that too many of you clearly love to cherry pick dangerous ideological witch hunts, as the world is burning all around you. Too many of you have clearly read the book "everyone I disagree with is an extremist".

The Epik hack is without a doubt, a cancel culture's wet dream, because America (and beyond) is so divided and blood thirsty now. We're on a terrible, terrible path and many don't see it and/or are simply apathetic to all of this, so long as you're selling domains and NFT's. Sadly, many of you naively assume that the very societal structures that support this forum and this industry will somehow automatically "exist" tomorrow despite the path that this world is on. What an utterly selfish, tragic position to have.

The depths of so many people's delusion and inability of seeing beyond duality is palpable, even via an internet connection. And I could seriously care less if some of you don't agree with my rant or believe that it's not "on topic", because the truth is that much of what I stated above is what's fueling many of the issues in today's and (tomorrow's) business landscape.

Well, you asked for sources. There's a lot of info all out in the open atm. If you dislike Google, no need to write a book about it, just use DDG or whatever you're comfortable with. Try the dark web. It's all there.

I don't necessarily disagree with what you posted actually. You raised some valid concerns albeit beyond the scope of this thread.
 

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Clearly the website mentioned in this thread is breaking TOS. I'm not debating you there. But what are you defining as "fringe"? What other sites are you referring to? Can you give examples? At least more than just two or three that justifies your claim that Epik carelessly and freely gives a home to what you're defining as "extremism"? Because if you really want to play that game, I'm rather confident that GoDaddy has hosted some "extreme" content as well. But we don't hear you speaking about that, do we? So, yes, please give some examples as to what you're referring to as "fringe" in regards to Epik.
he means anything his overlords dont approve of.
 
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he means anything his overlords dont approve of.

And watch what happens to this industry (and the rest of the world) over the next 24 months. Dualistic mindsets and dangerous group-think actions are destroying everything, including this forum. I challenge anyone to compare the division we see today here on this forum and then contrast that with just 3 years ago. Fascism is back, but it's being utterly inverted. Judging from so many clueless responses here, people haven't learned history when it comes to censorship and political witch hunts led by ideologies. The group-think and cat-calling on this forum and virtually every other website is beyond repair. I and multiple others are not even permitted to add our "two cents" over on the Epik thread. We're banned due to utterly baseless reasons, as anyone can take a gander RIGHT NOW and look at personal attacks and off topic rants that are still being perpetrated on that thread at this very moment. Yeah, really fair and balanced name pros. Well done!

All of this is really no different than the early events of the 1930's, which were originally leftist youth movements led by cynical, manipulative elites seeking personal gain and pitching vapid slogans. We can see this elite-like mentality in many industries, including this one. Without naming specific names, the sheer arrogance of some of the well known "players" in both the domain and the NFT space is mind numbing. They're pseudo elitists. They're willing to sell out and support extreme leftist ideology so long as they're making major cash in the interim. Is it a coincidence that the majority of the "big players" in this industry are utter sell outs who support the leftist agenda? No, it's not. Look at virtually every big domain industry blog and observe the actions of the blog owner. Look at the group-think mantras and the obsession to defend GoDaddy and/or the effort to avoid discussing the motives of Godaddy's divisive and dangerous corporate ideologies. Again, these people believe they're better humans than you are. This is why they are obsessed with calls to virtue. When the shit inevitably hits the fan in society, these people truly believe they will be "spared". It will be fascinating to watch their delusions fall apart in the months ahead. Many of these people are on the wrong side of history and they'll grasp that one day, but by then it will be too late.

In fact, the head-in-the-sand syndrome is so bad, that you have a few individuals right here on these forums, who claim to stand on the side of virtue and fairness, even going as far as claiming to participate in the very regulating bodies that govern this industry, and yet who are still utterly blind. They refuse to see reality for what it is, because although they would likely never admit it, once again, they've secretly convinced themselves that they're "better" than you. That's called elitism. These clueless idiots believe they'll have a seat at the "big boy's table" whatever the hell that means. In short, they believe they'll have more power and money, and thereby any regulations won't affect them personally. They're easy to spot here. They are the ones who attempt to deflect virtually every counter fact that you present to them. They try and avoid any "political" or ideological discussions UNLESS it aligns with their agendas and worldviews, and then they're all about passively trashing anyone who disagrees with them.

The countless people, both here and elsewhere, who are going out of there way to add fuel to the Epik shit storm have NO idea of the inevitable, overreaching regulations led by the same mentality and the same foot soldiers who orchestrated hack, that will eventually smother and destroy this industry. Rob may be one super weird dude. And he may have had terrible security practices, sure. But that is only ONE piece of what's going on here. The MOTIVE behind the attack is being utterly deflected and shoved right under the rug. The people behind the Epik attack literally do not want people like Rob (or anyone who doesn't share their woke, lemming like ideologies) to make it in society. They literally want those people tossed aside in the worst ways. That is evil.
 
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Rob may be one super weird dude
I remember talking to him on MSN or some chat system years ago, I actually liked him. Never got any bad vibes from him. I like that hes pro-freedom and hosted Gab when the authoritarians shut him down. As a Libertarian, that's a good thing. But the overlords don't like the people having freedom so they propagandize his company.
 
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Google is your friend? Google is literally the grandfather everything and everyone who's knee deep in political correctness and government surveillance. So let's use Google and see what pops up. Hmmm. Google is telling me that Gab.com is a social platform that has some extreme people on it, so it must be true. It must be way different than other platforms, because it's not as if Facebook/twitter has ever had users live stream actual murders in real time, right? It's not as if literal terrorists are active on both of those social platforms as we speak, right? Nah, that's not extremism, because, it's facebook and twitter.

Google tells me that Parlor is an alt right platform. Although they don't actually reveal why. But hey, that's def right wing extremism right? Because heaven forbid independent thought should stand without being censored.

Google tells me that Epik hosted an AR15 forum who's purpose is to hold discussion for those who have a desire to chat about AR15's, the most popular civilian rifle on the planet. Since guns are evil and must be banned, that must also be an extremist website, right?

But yes, Google is your friend. After all, with friends like that, who needs discernment? They tell you what to think and when to think it.

A user above commented that Epik's willingness and record for hosting numerous extremist websites is "no secret". Weird, because for something that is "no secret" you'd think that some of you would follow through and reveal at least a dozen or more, verifiable extremist websites that Epik was actually hosting. Many of you have bought into the agenda of redefining words like "extremism", and there within lies the rub. I'm willing to bet some of you wouldn't hesitate to label a Covid denier or someone who believes that the vaccine is poison, as an "extremist". This is dangerous territory. Some random, crazy Joe Public has convinced himself that the holocaust "never happened" or that covid is "fake", and people don't hesitate to dox and label that guy as an extremist, but an actual terrorist on twitter who is responsible for murders somehow gets a pass? Feel free to elaborate on those mental gymnastics.

If GoDaddy was ever hacked to this degree, you'd find countless unsavory, domain names that were registered, just the same. And Facebook? People would be utterly shocked at what they'd find if it was ever hacked. How convenient is it to claim that Epik disproportionately hosts a number of extremist websites and domains without having the deets on GoDaddy's database to compare and contrast such a claim? There's so much finger pointing and name calling. So many of you are always attempting to take the moral high ground, while injecting so much ideological bias and group-think bullshit into your worldview that you're unable to see straight.

The irony is that some of you sit there and type how none of this is really about politics while constantly using the trite reasons of "extremism", "alt right" and Rob's religious beliefs as the reasons for why Epik is so horrendous. Epik may have had some shitty security, there's obviously something with that, and I'm not saying that Epik didn't host any legit extremist websites. What I am saying, is that too many of you clearly love to cherry pick dangerous ideological witch hunts, as the world is burning all around you. Too many of you have clearly read the book "everyone I disagree with is an extremist".

The Epik hack is without a doubt, a cancel culture's wet dream, because America (and beyond) is so divided and blood thirsty now. We're on a terrible, terrible path and many don't see it and/or are simply apathetic to all of this, so long as you're selling domains and NFT's. Sadly, many of you naively assume that the very societal structures that support this forum and this industry will somehow automatically "exist" tomorrow despite the path that this world is on. What an utterly selfish, tragic position to have.

The depths of so many people's delusion and inability of seeing beyond duality is palpable, even via an internet connection. And I could seriously care less if some of you don't agree with my rant or believe that it's not "on topic", because the truth is that much of what I stated above is what's fueling many of the issues in today's and (tomorrow's) business landscape.
Fantastic post... You really nailed it with the truth! Well said!
 
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I'm very confused about what this "abortion whistleblower tip website" is.
So, what I'm gathering is that if you had evidence of someone having gotten an abortion, you could submit it to the website? And then the website would do what, report them to the authorities? The state of Texas itself was offering a reward for tips regarding illegal abortions, but I don't see where you're getting doxxing from. Sure, if they were being reported to the authorities by the website because of the snitches, I agree that is wrong in principal and that the site shouldn't exist, but were they releasing this information to the public in attempt to socially "cancel" these people? If it wasn't publicly released then I don't understand the doxxing angle, but I'm not taking a stance on any of it; I'm just attempting to understand whats going on in this thread lol.

As for GoDaddy taking the website down—Eh, doesn't surprise me. I'd need to know more about how the site was handling their information before I made a decision on my own opinion of whether or not the site should have been taken down on purely a moral aspect. That being said, GoDaddy 100% had the right to take the site down because if any ACTUAL medical data belonging to the ones being snitched on was transmitted through that website, then they were 100% in violation of HIPPA Laws and who knows how many other privacy laws and that is a system GoDaddy would have been dumb to get tangled up in.

Again, don't come at me sideways because I asked questions, stated a fact, or an opinion; If you don't know the difference in those three things, then please just don't respond to me. I'm not interested in getting caught up in any nonsensical arguments over abortion on a domain forum about an article about a domain registrar's decision to give a likely illegal snitch's website 24 hours to move to another host/registrar.
 
I'm very confused about what this "abortion whistleblower tip website" is.
So, what I'm gathering is that if you had evidence of someone having gotten an abortion, you could submit it to the website? And then the website would do what, report them to the authorities? The state of Texas itself was offering a reward for tips regarding illegal abortions, but I don't see where you're getting doxxing from. Sure, if they were being reported to the authorities by the website because of the snitches, I agree that is wrong in principal and that the site shouldn't exist, but were they releasing this information to the public in attempt to socially "cancel" these people? If it wasn't publicly released then I don't understand the doxxing angle, but I'm not taking a stance on any of it; I'm just attempting to understand whats going on in this thread lol.

As for GoDaddy taking the website down—Eh, doesn't surprise me. I'd need to know more about how the site was handling their information before I made a decision on my own opinion of whether or not the site should have been taken down on purely a moral aspect. That being said, GoDaddy 100% had the right to take the site down because if any ACTUAL medical data belonging to the ones being snitched on was transmitted through that website, then they were 100% in violation of HIPPA Laws and who knows how many other privacy laws and that is a system GoDaddy would have been dumb to get tangled up in.

Again, don't come at me sideways because I asked questions, stated a fact, or an opinion; If you don't know the difference in those three things, then please just don't respond to me. I'm not interested in getting caught up in any nonsensical arguments over abortion on a domain forum about an article about a domain registrar's decision to give a likely illegal snitch's website 24 hours to move to another host/registrar.

The law has no criminal enforcement. There is no such thing as reporting it to the authorities as there is no legal enforcement mechanism. The only recourse is via civil court.

When third parties are collecting private information, including medical records, to potentially be used in civil legal action that is an issue.

Any lawsuit would have to show who, what, where, when, etc. when it came to the abortion. People's private information would come out in court, even though they are not being sued.

Regardless of your thoughts on abortion, the entire framework of the law is flawed and is not compatible with almost 250 years of the US legal system.

Brad
 
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The scary thing here is that a domain registrar is dictating what content hits the World Wide Web.

I understand it can be confusing, but GoDaddy did this in their role as hoster, not registrar.

The relevant TOS section is 5.2:
  1. You will not collect or harvest (or permit anyone else to collect or harvest) any User Content (as defined below) or any non-public or personally identifiable information about another User or any other person or entity without their express prior written consent.
 
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I understand it can be confusing, but GoDaddy did this in their role as hoster, not registrar.

The relevant TOS section is 5.2:
  1. You will not collect or harvest (or permit anyone else to collect or harvest) any User Content (as defined below) or any non-public or personally identifiable information about another User or any other person or entity without their express prior written consent.
When you choose to visit any website, regardless of its functionality, just know that they have your info. Nothing new here.
 

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Google is your friend? Google is literally the grandfather everything and everyone who's knee deep in political correctness and government surveillance. So let's use Google and see what pops up. Hmmm. Google is telling me that Gab.com is a social platform that has some extreme people on it, so it must be true. It must be way different than other platforms, because it's not as if Facebook/twitter has ever had users live stream actual murders in real time, right? It's not as if literal terrorists are active on both of those social platforms as we speak, right? Nah, that's not extremism, because, it's facebook and twitter.

Google tells me that Parlor is an alt right platform. Although they don't actually reveal why. But hey, that's def right wing extremism right? Because heaven forbid independent thought should stand without being censored.

Google tells me that Epik hosted an AR15 forum who's purpose is to hold discussion for those who have a desire to chat about AR15's, the most popular civilian rifle on the planet. Since guns are evil and must be banned, that must also be an extremist website, right?

But yes, Google is your friend. After all, with friends like that, who needs discernment? They tell you what to think and when to think it.

A user above commented that Epik's willingness and record for hosting numerous extremist websites is "no secret". Weird, because for something that is "no secret" you'd think that some of you would follow through and reveal at least a dozen or more, verifiable extremist websites that Epik was actually hosting. Many of you have bought into the agenda of redefining words like "extremism", and there within lies the rub. I'm willing to bet some of you wouldn't hesitate to label a Covid denier or someone who believes that the vaccine is poison, as an "extremist". This is dangerous territory. Some random, crazy Joe Public has convinced himself that the holocaust "never happened" or that covid is "fake", and people don't hesitate to dox and label that guy as an extremist, but an actual terrorist on twitter who is responsible for murders somehow gets a pass? Feel free to elaborate on those mental gymnastics.

If GoDaddy was ever hacked to this degree, you'd find countless unsavory, domain names that were registered, just the same. And Facebook? People would be utterly shocked at what they'd find if it was ever hacked. How convenient is it to claim that Epik disproportionately hosts a number of extremist websites and domains without having the deets on GoDaddy's database to compare and contrast such a claim? There's so much finger pointing and name calling. So many of you are always attempting to take the moral high ground, while injecting so much ideological bias and group-think bullshit into your worldview that you're unable to see straight.

The irony is that some of you sit there and type how none of this is really about politics while constantly using the trite reasons of "extremism", "alt right" and Rob's religious beliefs as the reasons for why Epik is so horrendous. Epik may have had some shitty security, there's obviously something with that, and I'm not saying that Epik didn't host any legit extremist websites. What I am saying, is that too many of you clearly love to cherry pick dangerous ideological witch hunts, as the world is burning all around you. Too many of you have clearly read the book "everyone I disagree with is an extremist".

The Epik hack is without a doubt, a cancel culture's wet dream, because America (and beyond) is so divided and blood thirsty now. We're on a terrible, terrible path and many don't see it and/or are simply apathetic to all of this, so long as you're selling domains and NFT's. Sadly, many of you naively assume that the very societal structures that support this forum and this industry will somehow automatically "exist" tomorrow despite the path that this world is on. What an utterly selfish, tragic position to have.

The depths of so many people's delusion and inability of seeing beyond duality is palpable, even via an internet connection. And I could seriously care less if some of you don't agree with my rant or believe that it's not "on topic", because the truth is that much of what I stated above is what's fueling many of the issues in today's and (tomorrow's) business landscape.


Please inform me of what search terms you're using to get the results from Google that you mentioned.

I'd also be pretty interested in hearing when Google EVER "tell you what to think and when to think it." I took the liberty of searching "Gab" and "Parler" in reference to your first two comments, and I am assuming that you're commenting on these statements:
Parler:
"Parler is an American microblogging and social networking service. It has a significant user base of Donald Trump supporters, conservatives, conspiracy theorists, and far-right extremists. Posts on the service often contain far-right content, antisemitism, and conspiracy theories such as QAnon." Wikipedia


Gab:
"Gab is an American alt-tech social networking service known for its far-right userbase. Widely described as a haven for extremists including neo-Nazis, white supremacists, white nationalists, the ..." Wikipedia
Literally it is an excerpt from Wikipedia that Google used, whether you agree with its correctness or not, in an attempt to make your finding the information easier. You can't blame Google because leftist fucks get on Wikipedia and spew the same bullshit as they do everywhere else—YOU can also CHANGE Wikipedia content, if you find it to be so inflammatory. I, for one, wouldn't waste my time because I can think and reason for myself, and blaming a search engine for the content that a search returns is just mind boggling and hypocritical—You're doing exactly what the rest of your comment is claiming to be so atrocious, you're labeling Google as some evil, surreal figure out to push some agenda when it is literally only helping provide you with information. Which could be used productively, for example if you were to actually click on the link to the Epik wikipedia excerpt that pops up when Googling "Epik" and go to the Epik Wikipedia page, you'd be able to see a correlation between the three Wikipedia pages you mentioned.

I'm not going to continue spending my time on this as I do actually have things to do, but go back to where google "told you how to think" and click the Wikipedia links for: Epik, Parler, and Gab, then cross reference the people editing the pages. I found three names: Claire Goforth, Drew Harwell, Brodkin, Jon on all three of them, plus saw in the 5 minutes spent looking over the pages A LOT of names that I recognized from at least two of the three pages. Meaning that despite what you may believe, it isn't the search engine telling you anything, it is the people manipulating the data on a website that can be edited by anyone, including yourself (if, in the future, you'd like to correct the people trying to cause the downfall of the USA).

I'm not going to respond to the rest of your comment, as I don't want to get into anymore than I already have, I just wanted to say my peace after reading your harsh ridicule of Google for returning a Wikipedia excerpt (along with thousands, if not hundreds of thousands or millions of other results on every degree from left to right) in response to your searching for that subject.
 
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