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the following is based on true events. names have been changed to protect the innocent.

so this person (bob) i know through a large website (google.com) i am a member of runs a website (example.net) for the community of the aforementioned website. this website is written from the ground up, is free, totally useful, everyone uses it, etc. btw the google.com and the example.net are totally member driven: no advertising. bob also owns the domains example.com and example.org, but the service is on example.net. recently bob bought two four letter domains, xmpl(dot)net and xmpl(dot)org, which are similar to example.net/example.org but much shorter and easier to type. here comes the
question: xmpl(dot)com expires at the end of this month. it would be ideal that bob own this domain to protect his name. because it is a four letter .com and semi-pronounceable, we're sure the domainer bots will catch it (and keep it) before bob can register it. currently xmpl(dot)com is a godaddy parked page, and whois pretty much tells me that it's a domain someone registered but never did anything with so it still has the default godaddy parking page. archive.org tells me that the domain was never used for anything in the past really, all i see is a 404 image.

1. when will this domain "drop"? the whois says it expires say, June 24th. there's a waiting period and stuff before it actually becomes available right?
2. because the domain is registered via proxy, and there is no way to contact the current owner, is there anything to be done before the expire date?
3. do the domain parking people grab pretty much every expired domain? if so how do i snipe the snipers? they seem to get them long before anyone else does, and i'm sure they make certain of that.

thanks. if this doesn't make sense just ask and i will rephrase what you don't understand. :)
 
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ji said:
3. do the domain parking people grab pretty much every expired domain? if so how do i snipe the snipers? they seem to get them long before anyone else does, and i'm sure they make certain of that.
Godaddy sells their expired domains through TDNAM. So if the domain is registered with Godaddy, and it expires, you will be able to buy it through TDNAM before dropcatchers can snap it up through a backorder. On TDNAM, it'll be sold through an open-auction, where anyone can bid. So if you want to outsnipe the snipers, think about your bidding strategy for the domain...

ji said:
1. when will this domain "drop"? the whois says it expires say, June 24th. there's a waiting period and stuff before it actually becomes available right?
I believe the waiting period is around 12 days. After this, the domain goes into TDNAM where it's auctioned to the highest bidder. See the godaddy registration agreement here:

https://www.godaddy.com/gdshop/lega...A&prog_id=godaddy&isc=&se=&from_app=&app_hdr=

However, if you win the TDNAM auction, the original owner can still restore it for 30 days... If they do restore it, you are refunded. If the original owner has not restored the domain 45 days after June 24, you will gain ownership of the domain. For more info on TDNAM, check out the following page and scroll down to the heading "Go Daddy Expired Domains (Premier Auctions)":

http://documents.secureserver.net/show/document.aspx?plvid=1&name=dna_member

Hope that helps.
 
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tripleputt said:
Godaddy sells their expired domains through TDNAM. So if the domain is registered with Godaddy, and it expires, you will be able to buy it through TDNAM before dropcatchers can snap it up through a backorder. On TDNAM, it'll be sold through an open-auction, where anyone can bid. So if you want to outsnipe the snipers, think about your bidding strategy for the domain...


I believe the waiting period is around 12 days. After this, the domain goes into TDNAM where it's auctioned to the highest bidder. See the godaddy registration agreement here:

https://www.godaddy.com/gdshop/lega...A&prog_id=godaddy&isc=&se=&from_app=&app_hdr=

However, if you win the TDNAM auction, the original owner can still restore it for 30 days... If they do restore it, you are refunded. If the original owner has not restored the domain 45 days after June 24, you will gain ownership of the domain. For more info on TDNAM, check out the following page and scroll down to the heading "Go Daddy Expired Domains (Premier Auctions)":

http://documents.secureserver.net/show/document.aspx?plvid=1&name=dna_member

Hope that helps.
thanks for the info, i will pass it along.
 
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