Flippa

[Eric Lyon]

This thread was created to cater to a second discussion that evolved in another thread. To keep the original thread on topic, all off-topic posts have been moved here for continued discussion.

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[Eric Lyon]

Okay, this thread is starting to get a little out of hand. Heated debate is fine; however please refrain from any personal attacks.

Please try to keep this thread on-topic and as constructive as possible. The use of tact during any debates would be highly appreciated.

Thanks everybody and play nice,

 

[briguy]

Love a free course..

Alright folks, we are planning on developing a course to teach you the a-z's of becoming a profitable Super Seller utilizing the Flippa platform! It will cover everything from the basics like what a domain name is, how to valuate them, where to find deals and so on. All the way up to negotiations, transferring, building the right listing and proper outbound techniques. It will cover everything. All of my techniques, strategies, experience, tips & tricks, the tools I use and so on.

Please take the time to answer the poll question - along with leaving feedback in the thread about the types of things you'd like to see in the course! Thanks!

okay, I just skimmed through the postings, so I apologize if this has been answered before..
"Alright folks, we are planning" who are the "we"? Are they also experienced, successful domain investors?

 

[discobull]

In the interest of putting this issue to bed, I went through Ali's sales and compiled a list of what listing closed 2 or more months ago ( that's right, I have no life ). Here's what I came up with:

MobileDrones.com $2875
RealEstateForeclosures.com $7500
DomainDropper.com $505
Throttles.com $1050
FirearmMagazine.com $455
Holeout.com $2000
Minorities.com $5000
OsakaTourism.com $850
ScubaTank.com $2500
Enlargements.org $90
Jihad.info $350
Bean-Bags.com $400
TokyoTourism.com $2000
PisaItaly.com $450
OahuResorts.com $1999
Epiphora.com $350
VicePrincipal.com $399
MonthlyRewards.com $1500
Semtex.com $3500
FlooringOptions.com $999
InpatientDetox.com $800
Hitler.info $2999
ExoticCarAuction.com $1500
FreeInstrumentals.com $4000
BackupMac.com $551
Cloey.com $1999
GunEngraver.com $395
MyPropertyListings.com $1500
Flipped.net $1999
Occults.com $799
Whift.com $501
StereoDeals.com $449
ReggaeSongs.com $1999
NearestRestaurants.com $1500
CupcakeFrosting.com $601
CeremonyMusic.com $2100
RealEstateAuctions.info $65
AppDesignSchool.com $7500
FiOS.info $100
Muse.info $200
BaytownApartments.com $124
Condos-For-Sale.com $175
T3i.net $206
F5O.com $365
seizure.info $51
sexywallpapers.org $90
F0B.com $999
Meningocele.com $20
soundboards.org $118
StockPhotoPlanet.com $250

Total = 50 sales @ $68,727

As I recall, at least one of these was a bundle of domains. Note also, that I have no idea if all of these were owned by him nor do I have any idea how much any of these domains cost him or how much was spent on marketing each of these listings. Lastly, I didn't double check to see if there were any errors in this list ( someone else is welcome to do that job).

 

[sofiapartner]

Hm... This is getting more interesting. @Ali Zandi , in the interview with DomainSherpa you are answering the question:

"How much in revenue have you sold since becoming a seller at flippa"?
- "In July when I actually started...."

What have you started? Because your history at Flippa says that your first domain is sold 11 months ago - which is not July, but March. Actually these are domains.
16 Stock Photo domains!

Only one bid - sold by negotiation for $250.

I have to say that until July your sales are average sales.

soundboards.org - $118
Meningocele.com - $20

The following 4 domains for $999
F0B.com
RO4.com
DOW2.com
1CPO.com

seizure.info - $51

and so on - nothing unexpected.

After selling FiOS.info for $100, it seems that you are getting 2 month break (at least from flippa), because there are no reported sales in your profile.

And then Around July you are coming back with 90 bulk domain auction sold for BIN @7500. I guess you listing is already premium with the image, logo, etc..

After that all your auctions are premium listings.

What happened in July?

Also you said a few posts above that you sold hitler.info for $4K, which is not true if you are talking about your sale at flippa.

1. It was sold for $2999.
2. The auction BIN price included

UltimateAthletics.com
A monster domain, just google the term and tell me its not! 11 year aged! 1,900 monthly exacts! TONS of endusers! Easily valued at $3,000-$5,000 retail!

PayPerClick.us
This one needs no explanation! Easy startup of an affiliate PPC site! 6 years aged with over 18,000 monthly exacts! Valued at $500-$1,000 retail!

"But wait, there's more!"

BeautifulOrgasm.com
9 Years aged and 3,600 exacts a month! This is the perfect domain name to start up a sex blog directed towards women! Educational material, adult toys, a full on blog, video tutorials and more! Valued at $1,500-$2,000 retail!

Can you answer
1. When you actually started? And what exactly you started (selling at flippa, domaining, being broker at flippa)
2. What happened in July?
3. Are you talking about the hitler.info sale at flippa?

Please.

I have many more questions coming from your interview, your threads at NP and your sales record, if you would be so good not to ignore me.

Thanks

 

[DU]

Happy Happy

 

[DomainVP]

Just for clarity...

You did ask our opinion Ali; and many of us have shared our opinion.

None of this is out of 'jealousy' or 'envy'; nor is this a personal attack on you. If you are doing well, then cheers to you my friend.

However, my perspective on this comes from my personal experience with the company you represent.

This whole 'domainer education' initiative is predatory in my opinion, because at the heart of it lies your companies desire to push expensive promotion packages on naive beginners; in my opinion.

From my taste of Flippa, there are lots of promises with minimal warranty. Which went hand-in-hand with your 'domainer education' initiative opening thread statement.

So don't take it personally; on a positive note you seem like a nice person, who is knowledgable, and you have an excellent beard.

So I will exit the conversation on a positive note.

Cheers!

 

[DomainGist]

Deleted

 

[iowadawg]

Just create the course, release it, and promote it.
Either people will love it, or not.

 

[DomainGist]

Just create the course, release it, and promote it.
Either people will love it, or not.

Exactly. Just like a book, or a movie, or a song..... or a domain auction I guess.

 

[WhiteCloud]

I am new here and have some concerns.

I understand that @DomainVP went slightly off topic in the original thread and it was appropriate to relocate his comments. I am glad his comments were not removed since I want to hear his opinion. @DomainVP took the time to share his experience using the Flippa platform and it was an informative post. @DomainVP did not simply say Flippa sucks. He told us exactly why he thought the platform wasn't ideal. All opinions have value.

Secondly, who deleted @Ali Zandi's comments. Was it @Ali Zandi within the 15 minute edit period? @Ali Zandi at a time beyond the edit period? Can VIP / Business accounts edit or delete their posts whenever they please or was the edit done by a moderator? I am asking because I only glanced at the thread when it was live and saw a comment that I wanted to review later..

It is not my intention to attack @Ali Zandi or Flippa. I saw Ali's DomainSherpa interview and found it useful. I have also found the NamePro members to be very generous with their time and knowledge. But, I am not certain I want to continue in the forum if certain members can remove their posts. We all need to write with care and stand behind what we write.

 

[DomainGist]

What 15 minute edit period? I recently edited some posts I made in 2009!

And that's how it should be. When a prospective buyer agrees to buy your domain if you delete the post you made boasting about its registration...... you want to be able to do it.

 

[WhiteCloud]

I am a "New Member" and I cannot edit beyond 15 minutes.

 

[DomainGist]

Well there's your answer then, you simply haven't made enough posts yet, most people can edit.

 

[Eric Lyon]

The answers to your questions can be found here: https://www.namepros.com/threads/limits-on-forums-threads-posts-conversations-etc.828067/

 

[WhiteCloud]

Thank you @PugDomainsLtd and @Eric_Lyon. Unfortunately, that means I am left with a negative impression of Flippa. I read a comment that at first glance seemed inappropriate for a company's representative and wanted to make certain later.

Being new to forums I find a large edit window curious. Discussions have less meaning and can appear disjointed.

 

[DomainGist]

It is important that on any forum where people are sharing their domain names, that they can edit those domain names out at a later date.

Buyers may state as a condition of sale that they don't want a sale discussed, for example.

 

[WhiteCloud]

That makes sense. Thank you @PugDomainsLtd for explaining one reason behind the large edit window.

 

[Josh R]

@Ali Zandi Has been successful because of several reasons. One of which is the Flippa platform, which he is now a senior broker for. OFCOURSE he wants to promote Flippa, but at the same time, I am sure that he is trying to help the domainer community.

If people dig deep enough into ANYTHING, there are always more questions or things that might not quite add up in their eyes. Sometimes you need to look at the big picture..

I appreciate what your doing @Ali Zandi

P.S I'm not a huge fan of Flippa and probably won't use it much. But, it certainly serves a purpose and a certain type of domain sells very well on there.

 

[DomainVP]

With Flippa, a lot may have changed since late 2013; but I'm not willing to dish out $340 for their "Ultra Premium" package.

I spent roughly $500 with them in package and listing fees, not including final sale fees.

I was not happy with the results at all. I would be willing to try them again, with a stronger domain, and reevaluate their program/package from a fair and unbiased perspective; but I won't likely have that opportunity since I believe in the saying, "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me."

 

[S-B]

Well, I launched a $9 listing a little over a day ago to test out the theory that you need to pay for upgrades.... It's already at $2,500.

Note: I will be upgrading but I wanted to see what would happen.