new gtlds Even experts are investing in new gTLDs

[Arpit131]

Konstantinos Zournas of OnlineDomain shares his investment in new gTLDs that amounts to approximately $50,000.
He shares on his blog, that he has bought 565 new gTLDs so far, for a total of $50,000 which averages to about $88 per domain name.
He has sold two new gTLDs : 360.agency for $2,500 and city.tips for 8,500 Euros.

Check out what the experts like him are buying and selling.
The article may be found here.

As per my personal experience, I happened to speak to some people who recently started in Domaining, got lured by the new gTLDs and their highest flips are among the new gTLDs that they have sold for over $2,000.
I see some bright light here, for them. Perhaps they would do even better when they switch to .COMs! Good Luck to them.

How many flips have you made in new gTLDs?
Any experience that you would like to share with the community?

 

[vivaldi]

How

How about .xyz , is good to invest or is it gambling?

If you picked up a great keyword at launch you could hold it for a year or two and see what happens at most. Even though they do market themselves well, I don't see how they should put up with it year after year. This extension needs to be marketed heavily because it .sucks.

 

[brandnow]

If you picked up a great keyword at launch you could hold it for a year or two and see what happens at most. Even though they do market themselves well, I don't see how they should put up with it year after year. This extension needs to be marketed heavily because it .sucks.

I agree with this sentiment on some level too. :D I DO think they have to market it because it is not the greatest. But on the flip side, I am glad they are spending the money to market it, so I don't have to. Some food for thought.

 

[DomainVP]

You will always encounter the passionate gTLD believers; the investors that have bought their names and hope to win the gTLD lottery. People are passionate about their investments, as they should be.

The fact is that every investment is risky, and expecting .XYZ to be the next great .COM is very bleak at this point.

Even if one were to say there would be 'some value' in the extension in the distant future, it's hard to justify not allocating your assets in an extension where there is an active aftermarket that you can profit from today.

There are pages and pages of spirited debates that you can find here on NP, browse away.

 

[brandnow]

You will always encounter the passionate gTLD believers; the investors that have bought their names and hope to win the gTLD lottery. People are passionate about their investments, as they should be.

The fact is that every investment is risky, and expecting .XYZ to be the next great .COM is very bleak at this point.

Even if one were to say there would be 'some value' in the extension in the distant future, it's hard to justify not allocating your assets in an extension where there is an active aftermarket that you can profit from today.

There are pages and pages of spirited debates that you can find here on NP, browse away.

Well said.

I never shared these estimates and numbers before. But my personal domain investing portfolio is approx.
90% .com, 2% .org, 1%.net, 3% .club, & 5% misc. CCs and nGTLDs.

^ note these numbers DO NOT include the free .science and .party names I registered.. I left those off.. because frankly I don't think those count for much at all.

 

[JB Lions]

This thread is filled with paranoia.

.XYZ is a good investment.. for 2 - 3 years from now. Out of the 900,000+ .XYZ registrations only something like 1/3rd were given away for free. So it puts it still well and above any other ngtld in terms of registration numbers. Furthermore, I read an article recently that Web.com is profiting from people who are choosing to renew some of the free .XYZ domain away for free.

Like most people here.. I think XYZ is seriously an odd extension.. but it is memorable (I think) and starting to catch on. But there is no aftermarket YET. There was an aftermarket for some .XYZ names right after launch. I think it is best to give it 2 - 3 years and then we will begin to see an emerging aftermarket for the most popular ngtld. Plus, the renewal rate on XYZ is only $9 / yr.. not too bad. What I think is a losing strategy are the registries with a few thousand registered names at $30 / yr. Eventually domaineers will drop some of their domains at $30 a pop / per year.. and a few thousand registrations will not sustain the registry anyways long-term.. those extensions will probably end up being the big losers.

One last note..

examples of good XYZ domain names:
music.xyz
sports.xyz
love.xyz

examples of bad XYZ names (for investment purposes):
WatchSportsNow.xyz
coolsite.xyz

For those of us holding desired single word .xyz names.. just hold on for a couple years more.. I think the aftermarket will come full force.

1/3 for free

And how many at a deep $1 - $3 discount?

Catching on where? Not in the U.S.

Keep in mind if/when .web comes out, it'll do an R. Kelly on .xyz.

Next month is the 1 year anniversary of General Availability, so we will see what happens with all those freebies.

New gtlds. Look at the stats again. Last year, 0 in the top 100 sales. This year so far, 0. All those new gtlds available, over 5 million regs. Can't manage to get even 1 in there.

93 - 0. That's a total ass whuppin. It's why when talking about these, .com shouldn't even enter the conversation, like I said, it's on another level. I understand why the people selling them would mention it, they know there are suckers out there that will eat it up, their target audience. But again, most are niche, so they can't compete with .com. The general ones just aren't that good. No real demand, hence the giveaways and deep discounts.

 

[dordomai]

.xyz has 900k registrations because they market it so aggressively not because it is such a sought after extension. You can not use registration numbers to make long-term predictions about future domain values.

The question is if it is a good extension and is it better than the alternatives.

 

[brandnow]

1/3 for free

And how many at a deep $1 - $3 discount?

A LOT over the last 2 or 3 months from my knowledge. But right before the deep discounts at Chinese and Japanese registrars.. there was still something like 700,000+ registrations.

I'm not a die hard XYZ fan. Even though maybe I sound like it from some of my posts and my signature. But I believe in XYZ because of 1) Affordable renewal rates, 2) Not a lot premium names.. or none?, and 3) Global registrations.. from the registration data I see names being registered from N. America, Europe, and Asia. I get concerned when I only see N. American registrations, for example. I postulate that the more global a nGTLD.. I think the better chance of success there will be down the road.

 

[garptrader]

Anyone want to estimate how much money has been "invested" into new TLDs thus far versus domain investor (not registry or registrar) sales to end users?

 

[kawalsukhi]

.xyz has 900k registrations because they market it so aggressively not because it is such a sought after extension. You can not use registration numbers to make long-term predictions about future domain values.

The question is if it is a good extension and is it better than the alternatives.

Wow 900k registrations!! Its a great number.

 

[mad409]

Sure, but about 350,000 of those were given away to Network Solutions customers for free, without they even ordering them. Another 200,000 were almost free at Asian registries.

But apart from this, I admit that the number is high and I kind of fancy Daniel's guerilla marketing strategies.

What has always amazed me is that I've had a domain, business site hosted at Network Solutions since 1999 and I was never offered a free .xyz domain from them. Nor did they reg one on my behalf, go figure!

Who are these 350,000 people?