discuss Epik vs. Epic and Happy New Year!

[ThatNameGuy]

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=epik

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=domainer

Just like "domainer" isn't a real word, either is epik However, they both are found in the Urban Dictionary and Wiktionary, thus they're not made up words imho.

Like I have with other key words, I've just started accumulating a portfolio titled; EpikNames.com like; EpikTravel.com, EpikVegas.com and EpikJobs.com

Rob Monster the CEO of Epik.com was the first industry leader I met when I accidentally found the domain industry and the secondary market that Verisign says is "hidden in plain sight".

It's been said, if you want a new idea read an old book, and you may want to think of me as the old book I found this industry too late to be involved in "one word" domains, but two word domains have become my skill set that I've been told I'm pretty good at, and hopefully getting better.

Now getting back to Epik vs. Epic. As a business person, would you rather own the domain EpicTravel at 20K or EpikTravel at 2K? In my mind it's a No Brainer, but not so fast old time "domainers" might say? To put things in perspective, I just bought the domain EpikTravel.com from Epik.com for $8 and GD Values it at $1,343 while it Values EpicTravel at $6,455. And while those valuations sound way out of bounds, NameWorth values EpicTravel.com at $9,450 and EpikTravel.com at <less than $500. Furthermore, NameWorth values Epik.com at $64,000 and Epic.com at 10M, that's right ten million dollars

Finally, and maybe it's just me, but I like "Epik" better than "Epic"....maybe it's that EpikWeed I've been smoking. What say you?....Happy New Year

 

[Joe N]

So in the big scheme of things what might it mean "if" we were able to get words like "domainer" or "epik" into Webster or Cambridge assuming they're already in the Urban Dictionary etc.?

In the context of this thread?

I would say that wider usage of a word, to the point of its inclusion in a dictionary, gives potentially more commercial viability to domain names that contain that word.

 

[ThatNameGuy]

If you use Google you should get the option to translate the page automatically....I do anyway

If not, then maybe the below can help

https://www.dummies.com/education/internet-basics/how-to-translate-a-website-with-google-translate

Thanks, but I can't get it to translate and I'm using Google?

 

[ThatNameGuy]

So domainer is not a word in any of the official dictionaries (excluding urban dictionaries, etc.). That seems surprising. It is used in the ICANN wiki, about 500,000 times in Google results, etc. Does anyone know if it has ever been proposed for addition to a dictionary?

I think that in terms of unusual spelling ultimately what is widely used is most important, although spellings not widely used may be more TMable of course.

To see use of any words in books you can use the Google NGram viewer. For example here is a plot of how epic and epik have been over the years. You can see that epik is almost nowhere, and epic is increasing in use. But remember that is in books, and not in last few years.

I also did comparisons of brite and bright as shown in this plot. Again brite is essentially nowhere in books. Interestingly bright seems to have peaked in use some years ago.

Bob

Thanks Bob...we were talking aesthetics yesterday, and I don't know if a "k" is aesthetically more appealing than a "c', but I think I like it better. In addition, a couple of posts back I copied a couple of logos I found for Epik, and it appears you can be pretty creative with it. For things like landing pages etc. i think it can show off pretty well I'm guessing Rob may be following this thread so maybe here's his chance to partner with me as long as I don't mess up. Then again maybe he's preparing suit papers

 

[bmugford]

i think it can show off pretty well I'm guessing Rob may be following this thread so maybe here's his chance to partner with me as long as I don't mess up. Then again maybe he's preparing suit papers

Partner in what way exactly? He already owns the exact match .COM. Every other option is inferior.

He could just make endless URLs like Epik.com/marketing or marketing.epik.com if he wanted.

I think it is kind of questionable in the first place that you are hand regging all these "Epik" domains, a brand that is well known in the domain field.

Brad

 

[bmugford]

In the context of this thread?

I would say that wider usage of a word, to the point of its inclusion in a dictionary, gives potentially more commercial viability to domain names that contain that word.

Maybe, though there are endless words and alternative spellings in the dictionary that have limited commercial use. In almost every situation the dominant spelling will make the more valuable brand.

Brad

 

[Joe N]

Maybe, though there are endless words and alternative spellings in the dictionary that have limited commercial use. In almost every situation the dominant spelling will make the more valuable brand.

Brad

Agreed! I'd still vastly prefer the original spelling.

 

[ThatNameGuy]

Partner in what way exactly? He already owns the exact match .COM. Every other option is inferior.

He could just make endless URLs like Epik.com/marketing or marketing.epik.com if he wanted.

I think it is kind of questionable in the first place that you are hand regging all these "Epik" domains, a brand that is well known in the domain field.

Brad

You totally MISSED my point

 

[ThatNameGuy]

Agreed! I'd still vastly prefer the original spelling.

Good try

 

[Joe N]

Good try

My opinion only, of course. I personally would prefer my chances of selling two-word "Epic" names, even after a nod to "Epik" from the Oxford folks.

 

[ThatNameGuy]

My opinion only, of course. I personally would prefer my chances of selling two-word "Epic" names, even after a nod to "Epik" from the Oxford folks.

I even own a few "Epic" two-word, but I'm not sharing them....sorry

 

[dirk]

Can anyone read this...is it German? Swedish? Dutch? Thanks

https://www.studienkreis.de/deutsch/epik-merkmale/

It's German. It's about the narrative style type in literature.

 

[ThatNameGuy]

It's German. It's about the narrative style type in literature.

Thanks for that NameDeck....here's one that doesn't have a "c" compliment, Epikiss.com. I guess you might call that a brandable like Epik360 or Epizin.com

 

[ThatNameGuy]

Maybe, though there are endless words and alternative spellings in the dictionary that have limited commercial use. In almost every situation the dominant spelling will make the more valuable brand.

Brad

Brad...i know you're only trying to help. Have you ever heard of these guys; https://epikint.com/index.php It's really funny what you run into when you do a little research. I have a good friend who is also a Beltway Bandit. Note, they've had this Epik domain since 2012.Now that I'm a word investigator working for Wordvest, if you ever need anything let me know. God Bless!

 

[Joe N]

Brad...i know you're only trying to help. Have you ever heard of these guys; https://epikint.com/index.php It's really funny what you run into when you do a little research. I have a good friend who is also a Beltway Bandit. Note, they've had this Epik domain since 2012.Now that I'm a word investigator working for Wordvest, if you ever need anything let me know. God Bless!

Are you hoping to sell your Epik domains for the same amount these guys bought EpikInt.com for?

 

[ThatNameGuy]

Are you hoping to sell your Epik domains for the same amount these guys bought EpikInt.com for?

You really must think I was born yesterday, and I'm not trying to be facetious. Seriously Joe, it's time for you to move on...there's nothing here for you

As an fyi, they also happen to own Epikenergy.com that they reg'd in 2018, and it appears someone else owns Epikinternational.com that was reg'd in 2017. As I told your friend Brad, as a word investigator I'd give you each a BoGo deal if you ever need my help

 

[Joe N]

You really must think I was born yesterday, and I'm not trying to be facetious. Seriously Joe, it's time for you to move on...there's nothing here for you

I'm just saying that I believe it's possible that many of the existing "Epik" companies you've mentioned purchased their domain names for hand reg prices. If this is true, it makes me wonder if there would be much of a market to sell any two word Epik names for a worthwhile amount.

 

[Joe N]

You really must think I was born yesterday, and I'm not trying to be facetious. Seriously Joe, it's time for you to move on...there's nothing here for you

I'd like to add too, that it would be great to be able to have a discussion without you accusing me of thinking you're not bright. There's no need to deflect by telling me to move on. I'm here to discuss and learn, same as you.

 

[ThatNameGuy]

I'd like to add too, that it would be great to be able to have a discussion without you accusing me of thinking you're not bright. There's no need to deflect by telling me to move on. I'm here to discuss and learn, same as you.

Wouldn't that be "brite"...I'm confused

 

[Joe N]

As an fyi, they also happen to own Epikenergy.com that they reg'd in 2018, and it appears someone else owns Epikinternational.com that was reg'd in 2017. As I told your friend Brad, as a word investigator I'd give you each a BoGo deal if you ever need my help

Thanks for the info, Rich. I typically only reach out to more experienced domain sellers on here when I need some advice, but I appreciate the offer.

Is it your belief (or intuition) that because those names were registered by those companies, other companies will want to pay you 10 times reg fee or more for your Epik domains?

 

[ThatNameGuy]

Thanks for the info, Rich. I typically only reach out to more experienced domain sellers on here when I need some advice, but I appreciate the offer.

Is it your belief (or intuition) that because those names were registered by those companies, other companies will want to pay you 10 times reg fee or more for your Epik domains?

I've given your question a whole lot of thought, and I really don't want to loose any sleep over it. Sweet dreams my friend