alert Epik Had A Major Breach

[DaveX]

Just read this. Looks like Epik may have been hacked and sensitive data compromised...

Read here:
https://domainnamewire.com/2021/09/14/hackers-claim-significant-epik-breach/

Thought I would share this.

 

[bmugford]

All speech is allowed by law.

This is absolutely not true, not even in the United States.

While most speech is free speech, certain speech such as incitement language, some unqualified medical advice, etc. is not lawful.

Also, the entire world is not the United States. Epik served customers around the world.
Canada has different laws. So do many other countries.

Most of Europe directly bans things to do with Nazis (and related groups) and Holocaust denial, among other things.

Brad

 

[mr-x]

No, I don't. Nothing I've said is contradictory. In order to maintain the free speech of marginalized communities, broad dissemination of hate speech and fascism must be quashed. The only reason you think it's contradictory is because you have a childish and shallow understanding of the topic.

By definition, objectionable speech is free speech.

 

[tonyk2000]

Rebranding or no? Silence vs. full disclosure? Fix the existing code vs... ?

Zugzwang

Zugzwang is a situation found in chess and other turn-based games wherein one player is put at a disadvantage because of their obligation to make a move; a player is said to be "in zugzwang" when any possible move will worsen their position.

 

[finitecrystal]

A far left website calling every unapproved idea a conspiracy or fraud isn't proof of anything other than actual MD's proving care they believe works.

The Intercept may be "far left" but at least it's mostly factual.
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-intercept/

 

[mr-x]

This is absolutely not true, not even in the United States.

While most speech is free speech, certain speech such as incitement language, some unqualified medical advice, etc. is not lawful.

You are nit-picking.

Also, the entire world is not the United States. Epik served customer's around the world.
Canada has different laws. So do many other countries.

Most of Europe directly bans things to do with Nazis (and related groups) and Holocaust denial.

Brad

Epik is an American company. You just posted an article slandering American medical doctors for having unapproved, professional opinions developed by treating patients, not in an office analyzing spread sheets.

 

[finitecrystal]

By definition, objectionable speech is free speech.

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As I clearly stated literally in the screenshot that you just posted, Canada and most of the EU disagrees with you on that. What you're doing is called "free speech absolutism" and it's a notoriously ridiculous definition of free speech. You can see this effect clearly on sites like Gab, where supposedly any sort of speech is supposed to be allowed, yet the entire site has a far right bias because it's a festering shithole of hate speech and anyone who promotes any ideas outside of the normal extreme in that environment gets bullied off the platform.

 

[bmugford]

You are nit-picking.

Epik is an American company. You just posted an article slandering American medical doctors for having unapproved, professional opinions developed by treating patients, not in an office analyzing spread sheets.

My post was simply about the data breach.

I would be more than happy to look at any peer-reviewed study in a credible medical journal when it comes to the effectiveness of Ivermectin with COVID, if you post it in the appropriate thread.

Brad

 

[mr-x]

The Intercept may be "far left" but at least it's mostly factual.
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-intercept/

The Intercept has stopped publishing the truth.

https://greenwald.substack.com/p/my-resignation-from-the-intercept

 

[mr-x]

I would be more than happy to look at any peer-reviewed study in a credible medical journal when it comes to the effectiveness of Ivermectin when it comes to COVID, if you post it in the appropriate thread.

Brad

I don't care. Nothing to do with this topic, neither did you post about it. It was just a **political criticism of Medical Doctors you and other on the left don't like.

 

[bmugford]

I don't care. Nothing to do with this topic, neither did you post about it. It was just a **political criticism of Medical Doctors you and other on the left don't like.

I am sorry you did not like the context of the article. Take it to the political or COVID threads.

My post was simply referring to a data breach, which was asked about.

You are taking this down the path of how effective ivermectin is. Not the right thread.

Brad

 

[mr-x]

As I clearly stated literally in the screenshot that you just posted, Canada and most of the EU disagrees with you on that.

They are wrong. The only speech that needs protecting is speech people like you don't like. Popular speech has always been allowed.

What you're doing is called "free speech absolutism" and it's a notoriously ridiculous definition of free speech. You can see this effect clearly on sites like Gab, where supposedly any sort of speech is supposed to be allowed, yet the entire site has a far right bias because it's a festering shithole of hate speech and anyone who promotes any ideas outside of the normal extreme in that environment gets bullied off the platform.

The only speech that isn't free, is speech used in the commission of a crime. Talking about political views or general opinions you don't like isn't a crime.

You are wrong. That is what make the American experiment unique.

 

[mr-x]

I am sorry you did not like the context of the article. Take it to the political or COVID threads.

My post was simply referring to a data breach, which was asked about.

You are taking this down the path of how effective ivermectin is. Not the right thread.

Brad

You are trying to spin your way out of the obvious. The websites you posted about were not compromised or hacked. It was a summation of grievances and slander.

You don't need the epik data to find out who owns a website, it just made it easier.

 

[Paul]

In keeping with industry best practices, we have marked NamePros accounts as potentially compromised if they contained identifiers that matched data in certain portions of the Epik breach.

Note that analysis was limited. Much of the data is unstructured or unlikely to impact the security of accounts on NamePros, so we have focused on the data that we believe to present the greatest risk of credential stuffing attacks.

If your account is marked as potentially compromised, you will be logged out. The next time you attempt to log in with a valid password, you will be informed that there was a security concern with your account, and you will be prompted to reset your password:

We've received indication that your account credentials on a third-party service may have been compromised. For your security, you will need to reset your password. You won't be able to log in until you do so. Please click here to reset your password now.

This is the same system we have used in the past to lock down accounts that we believe to be compromised or at risk of credential stuffing attacks.

As analysis continues, we may flag additional accounts, take further action to lock down potentially affected accounts, or implement further protection measures as deemed appropriate by the security and domaining communities.

 

[Jurgen Wolf]

Please use Challenge! (Duel) button, don't make your BLAH BLAH BLAH mandatory for all readers.

p.s. Who doesn't understand - welcome to Ignorelist.

 

[finitecrystal]

They are wrong. The only speech that needs protecting is speech people like you don't like. Popular speech has always been allowed.

The problem isn't that "I don't like it", frankly I don't give a shit either way, the problem is that the broad dissemination of hate speech and fascism incites stochastic terrorism and I am personally opposed to fascism and terrorism. Hot take, I know, but I really just don't like seeing people killed by extremists. The fact that you're so eager to go to bat for this speech is far more alarming than anything I've said.

The only speech that isn't free, is speech used in the commission of a crime. Talking about political views or general opinions you don't like isn't a crime.

You are objectively incorrect. Even the constitution of the United States clearly lays out several exceptions to free speech. The classic example is that it is not lawful to yell "FIRE!" in a crowded theater, because that would incite a panic and and likely cause a lot of people to be injured. Unfortunately the constitution does not lay out an exception for hate speech, which is why hate speech and domestic terror attacks are so much more common in the United States than pretty much anywhere else in the world. [snip]

 

[Paul]

We're currently seeing a large number of password reset attempts being rejected as a result of insecure password choices. In keeping with established best practices, we do not allow passwords that are known to be compromised or that are minor variations on passwords known to be compromised.

If you are attempting to reset your password, and your choices are being rejected as too weak, you will be presented with a potential memorable password that you can use. That suggestion is discarded after being sent to you and is safe to use. You can also use a password manager to generate and manage secure passwords.

 

[Paul]

This thread is getting unnecessarily political and adversarial. I would appreciate if people would take a breather while we wait for moderators to handle the last few pages.

 

[mr-x]

This thread is getting unnecessarily political and adversarial. I would appreciate if people would take a breather while we wait for moderators to handle the last few pages.

Mod's delete my post but left the others up. Even the one calling my understanding, childish. Thanks for the honest moderation.

 

[Paul]

Mod's delete my post but left the others up. Even the one calling my understanding, childish. Thanks for the honest moderation.

All parties involved were instructed to stop posting. You were the only person who continued posting anyway. The posts you made after being instructed to stop were deleted, but none of the preceding posts in question were removed. I simply asked everyone to wait until moderators have a chance to review them.

 

[.X.]

I don't agree with your logic:
Everyone caught up in the hack was innocent, except for all of Epik's pedo porn site owners. None of them, as far as I know, were breaking the law in US, where EPIK resides. None of them deserve to have their data stolen or be doxed. None of them deserve to go to prison for things they believe in their hearts, even if they live in an oppressive country, a terrible country with hate speech laws or a country with sharia type laws.

I don't agree with your analogies:
Imagine a school with a bunch of kids, the parents trust their kids with that school but the school has no one at the door checking adults who enter, any ol pervert can enter and rape a child. Of course the perverts are wrong, but there are always perverts in the world, it is the school's responsibility to protect those children from the perverts.

I do understand your position .. if that is the case of these people or a website that you speak of .. then that website or sites should have been the focus of a hack or hacks to obtain the data on these people .. the same goes with other people of interest by the hacker … unloading the data of innocent people .. well .. that should never happen IMO .. sort the data out before making it a public dump .. but we are to late for that now .. so