.tv Ebay blast

[smashfactory]

i moved this to its own thread from the kuwaitnews thread-

if people are interested then we can set this all up- i suggested blasting ebay with a bunch of tv names.
now, the actual purpose would be more to spread the tv word, but if a sale happened, awesome

ebay gets a lot of traffic. you never know who your enduser might be. my thoughts are if on a certain day, a large amount of tv names went up for sale, it might have a greater impact than one or two.

it would need to be consistant tho. you dont see mcdonalds rolling out 50 different theme songs at one shot- it would not help to build the brand. the listings would have to be consistant- repetitious.

they would all need to use the gallery image, to make an impact- and we would need to do a write up for the description- and the same write up shows on every listing. after you put the details about your particular name, you pop in this description.

people read over and over and over about .tv and where it is going, and how it fits.

now- there may not be a single sale- and the point is to go into this not exactly expecting one- it is more of a marketing plug. but who knows, someone may make a sale.

ebay is cheap- and this is a real cheap way to reach a whole lotta people, and make a little noise about .tv. so for me to spend 15 bucks on a few listings, to me is not money wasted, if it is done right.

but, 15 listings wouldnt do it- people wouldnt even blink an eye. we need alot of listings for people to look and say, holy crap, what is this all about???? if you cant garner that kind of reaction, then it is a waste of money.
so, this may sound unrealistic, but i am thinking there should be no less han 100 listings hitting all on the same day- i know i would be at least ten of those

100 or more .tv listings, rolling out at once, in mass form. i do think that might get people looking, and reading, at .tv and all it is.

so anyways, thats my idea

 

[poiuytrewq]

Hi there. I certainly admire your attempts to keep rolling the dice.

I have tried the ebay route. However, I am sure that you will find it a very depressing experience. I certainly did as my portfolio of 15 exceptional one-worders and awesome LLL.tv stumbled to $400. There was alot of interest and alot of bids but ppl aren't prepare to pay much on there.

IMO

Good luck!

 

[hullswingerscom]

tell me when..i will list a name.
its depressing experience selling on here so yes why not.

 

[MillersCrossing]

Smash,

that is an excellent idea, sheer brilliance, guerilla marketing!!! what do you do for a day job!!!

Count me in.

ONE THING TO THINK ABOUT.......we want to shout from the rooftops so to speak, but not send the wrong message.....

So no porn names aka eq's favorite cumbubbles.tv and also, if we really want to jolt peoples attention, we need names that reach a certain level of good sense to the extension....so for example magazineappraisals.tv should not be allowed, it dilutes the message big time, names like beer.tv, diet.tv, religion .tv of course should get in...its the middle range that needs consideration..so one of my names - stationary.tv was a typo ...i would not submit that.....

We could also let the bidders know about some of the top developed sites alkready in action on the net.......

Hi there. I certainly admire your attempts to keep rolling the dice.

I have tried the ebay route. However, I am sure that you will find it a very depressing experience. I certainly did as my portfolio of 15 exceptional one-worders and awesome LLL.tv stumbled to $400. There was alot of interest and alot of bids but ppl aren't prepare to pay much on there.

IMO

Good luck!

The intention here is not to sell!!!!!!!! ithought smash made that obvious...its a marketing campaign...IF there are any sales then greaat, but that is besides the point,not the point itself

 

[poiuytrewq]

The intention here is not to sell!!!!!!!! ithought smash made that obvious...its a marketing campaign...IF there are any sales then greaat, but that is besides the point,not the point itself

Errr....ooookaaaaaay....

Well if the intention is 'not to sell', ebay is certainly the right place then.

Sounds like a winner.

GL

 

[MillersCrossing]

Errr....ooookaaaaaay....

Well if the intention is 'not to sell', ebay is certainly the right place then.

Sounds like a winner.

GL

well done sir....you have just picked up on the difference between a marketing campaign and a sales campaign.....

well done again!!

 

[smashfactory]

Errr....ooookaaaaaay....

Well if the intention is 'not to sell', ebay is certainly the right place then.

Sounds like a winner.

GL

now i understand why you have become the way you are reality. there is a bigger picture- there always is. you cant sit in this forum and expect the endusers to find your names in here. YOU said i you other post-

I'm sure you are all really nice people here but this is a very insular forum. I really do suggest some of you dudes get out and about on the web a bit more..

so, here we are working on an idea to reach out more, and of course, you knock it down without any full understanding of what is going on. it costs money to advertise reality. this is just another way of doing something, as opposed to you, doing nothing.

we can see your game plans were certainly "winners"- lets have a look at ya..

 

[freedom30]

Errr....ooookaaaaaay....

Well if the intention is 'not to sell', ebay is certainly the right place then.

Sounds like a winner.

GL

I hereby designate realityhurts as the official naysayer of the .tv forum. :hi:

Make no mistake, we need naysayers in our marketing process. It presents another side of our presentations.

The only thing we do not need is to dwell too deeply nor defend our stratagems. We need more positive than negative here, and here we shall get that.

Thanks, reality, and keep swinging.

Smash et al, let us commence upon our plans.

 

[Len]

Hey Smash...great idea! You can count me in on this .tv campain!!

 

[smashfactory]

I hereby designate realityhurts as the official naysayer of the .tv forum. :hi:

Make no mistake, we need naysayers in our marketing process. It presents another side of our presentations.

The only thing we do not need is to dwell too deeply nor defend our stratagems. We need more positive than negative here, and here we shall get that.

Thanks, reality, and keep swinging.

Smash et al, let us commence upon our plans.

i do agree with the bold- your right - i just get sooooooooo.... its like that fly that bothers you while you sleep- drives you nuts. but your right, its just a fly. and i DO believe in both sides of any story, as long as its an actually some sort of substance being thrown on the table.

onward and upward! - i will work out some sort of initial plan, and plop it here so we can, as a group, work this up. there was a write up on .tv- i have to find it- it covered all the solid points about .tv- maybe it was the blip.tv predictions- i gotta look

 

[Broker]

I'm in, please send me a reminder via pm as I am busy and might forget.

Thanks, great idea imho!

 

[smashfactory]

ok- so this is what i am thinkin-

> we pick a day to list the names- they need to all go in on the same day, as close as possible. if you do not have an ebay account and do not wish to get one, i can list your name for you on mine with your info

> i can make up a simple image that all the names will show as their gallery pic- these are .35, and show up on the listing page, and this is what you want to see- 100 listings ALL with a .tv logo there

> the descriptions need to be consistant, so we can use a template to just copy and paste from here- here is what i came up with- above the dotted line is YOUR name listed, under the dotted line is what we want people to read about .tv- post suggestions:


Name for Sale Here
Expiration date
Registrar
Your name description and information
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Look around the internet. More and more people are turning to their computer to watch tv. Video is becoming the venue of choice. Do a search on 2008 trends- read where the web is going.
.TV is the domain extension geared for this explosive expansion. Corporations, media and networks, sports, fitness, auto, food- you name it, they are utilizing .tv.
TV is one of the most recognized abbreviations in the world- a true global extension.
This is the one extension that coincides with the future direction of the internet.

 

[TheBulldog]

Pretty sure I have laid this one on you before, but the season is right.

I'm in like Lance Bass on Christmas day with Grandma and Grandpa.

 

[MillersCrossing]

SMASH,

if its ok with everyone else, i will give you a list of ten names for you to list under your name....just send me your pp details and what i need to do by showing me one of your names as an example......

thanks

 

[heroes]

eBay has set time periods of 1,3,5,7 & 10 days I think.

IMO, it should not be less than 7 days. I know no one really starts bidding until the last 10 seconds, but its all about exposure. Any comments?

 

[TheBulldog]

I do have a comment on that//

I do a lot of sales on ebay, not domain names, but electronics and what not, and you are exactly right, NO one looks at sales over 5 days unless it is a very specific niche, diamond rings, comic books, virgin mary toast, etc.

that being said, there is NO reason no to list that long, just be prepared to not have many lookers in advance.

Don't go 10 days though, because there is an extra charge for that.

Another comment....

Those looking for domain names tend to filter out names over certain amounts, say $10. How do we counter that. With a "I am selling this package of names" type auction?

I ask because as I have listed domains, you can look at vistors and names with no reserve get many views, those with minimums in the thousands tend to get very little or no views.

 

[smashfactory]

when i look at domains on ebay, i look by each category-
i am sure some go by price too, but i do think people always look around- if not we would see those posts about kuwaitnews being so high

my thoughts were to basically provide a shock factor- you look and 3 pages are filled with this .tv- people are bound to read listings, just because of the mass hit.

and, if i am correct- wouldnt people looking for "tv's" pull our listings from the search too? or no?

also, we could cross reference the listings by using a certain keyword string in the title, then reference that in the listings- i am thinking i am going to go half and half- some higher end listings, but a dab of my cheaper ones- that would also grab lookers due to price, and can be cross referenced via the description instruction.

 

[freedom30]

I do have a comment on that//

I do a lot of sales on ebay, not domain names, but electronics and what not, and you are exactly right, NO one looks at sales over 5 days unless it is a very specific niche, diamond rings, comic books, virgin mary toast, etc.

that being said, there is NO reason no to list that long, just be prepared to not have many lookers in advance.

Don't go 10 days though, because there is an extra charge for that.

Another comment....

Those looking for domain names tend to filter out names over certain amounts, say $10. How do we counter that. With a "I am selling this package of names" type auction?

I ask because as I have listed domains, you can look at vistors and names with no reserve get many views, those with minimums in the thousands tend to get very little or no views.

I see several directions this can go.

First, if we are just going to put names on ebay and leave it alone we might as well leave it parked where it is. What we should do is create enough curiosity(buzz as Smash would allude to) beforehand that there will be those endusers waiting for us to place our domain names(branded information) on the block to see what's available. If we don't spend time making us visible we will not gain much ground.

Second, I see that one can open a store for 15.95 a month. If feasible, that would be a HUGE plus for our purposes. Since the other auction sites can't seem to find their way to accomodate our needs we can certainly make it known that we can and keep more $$ as well.

Nor am I shy about putting a fair price on a great name. Remember that those not buying because of price may know someone who wants the name regardless of the cost. It happens. That's word of mouth sales because we're there, visible. Remember also that those looking for a .tv extension will know where to find one precisely for that reason. If I could put searchlights scanning the skies around our names I would. Maybe that's what we're doing, in a sense.

Make no mistake, this is not a small undertaking, but it can be a fun one if we just put our minds to pushing the envelope and taking chances. Playing safe is what we have been doing and it may be time to lift off the ground with this extension as it seems to be taking off. We can accelerate the demand even more by actions like these.

Let's keep the ideas flowing. This is definitely the way to steer 2008 to the destination that we choose. Just remember to have fun and watch it work!

 

[RPK]

You can count me in. I've been wondering when it would be the best time to get some exposure for Democrat.tv & Republican.tv

 

[jeffoverman]

Wow. Forgot you had republican. Both! Great job on them.

You should do quit well on them and bring the .tv extension out even more.

 

[hullswingerscom]

i think a store is best we all add names to it bit like a parking page....
but ill go with what ever

 

[filter]

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Second, I see that one can open a store for 15.95 a month. If feasible, that would be a HUGE plus for our purposes. Since the other auction sites can't seem to find their way to accomodate our needs we can certainly make it known that we can and keep more $$ as well.
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Let's keep the ideas flowing. This is definitely the way to steer 2008 to the destination that we choose. Just remember to have fun and watch it work!

:hi:
I just opened up my eBay store yesterday ->

http://stores.ebay.com/Fine-Art-Domains

I currenly have just one (undeveloped) .tv (and it's a borderline risque name "naughtybits.tv" - though IMO could work for comedy skits as well the more prurient angles)

But in any case can offer use of my store as a venue for this effort - it's still more or less an "empty vessel" with a mostly just LLLL.com domains listed right now - maybe not a "perfect" fit but hey, it's good to have options. (Though seems probably worth the $16 for someone more focused on TV to create a new store with a catchy "TV domain name" concept - then can see how it goes for a month and take it from there.)

 

[smashfactory]

they still have stores? i thought i read awhile ago tthey raised all the inline pricing because ebay wanted to get back to their roots- pure auctions-

i will have to look into the store thing- are you saying that instead of paying for each listing, and having it up for just 7 days, we can list all the names for 15 bucks, for a month?

do store listings show up in the regular listings? i sell on ebay, never used the store- i will need to read up on it- need to make sure we can cancel it with no problem too.


also if anyone gets any domainer type newsletters let me know- dialydomainer- i dont know if they are actually daily or their readership- once we have this set i will place some small ad in a newsletter about it

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http://pages.ebay.com/help/sell/storefees.html

i was just reading this page- i am not sure a store might be tthe way to go- there are fees in addition to the monthly fee- even tho it is lower, the final value price is higher- and i am not fully understanding the search-

 

[freedom30]

they still have stores? i thought i read awhile ago tthey raised all the inline pricing because ebay wanted to get back to their roots- pure auctions-

i will have to look into the store thing- are you saying that instead of paying for each listing, and having it up for just 7 days, we can list all the names for 15 bucks, for a month?

do store listings show up in the regular listings? i sell on ebay, never used the store- i will need to read up on it- need to make sure we can cancel it with no problem too.


also if anyone gets any domainer type newsletters let me know- dialydomainer- i dont know if they are actually daily or their readership- once we have this set i will place some small ad in a newsletter about it

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http://pages.ebay.com/help/sell/storefees.html

i was just reading this page- i am not sure a store might be tthe way to go- there are fees in addition to the monthly fee- even tho it is lower, the final value price is higher- and i am not fully understanding the search-

No, from what I understand, you still have to pay per listing, BUT you have a stable and identifiable presence whereupon one can market the extension and interested parties can go to view the names. This makes it worth the small investment.

I don't know much more than that but I'm leaving it up to you to bring us up to speed on it. I wouldn't mind pitching in for this project, either, if you deem it solid enough.

Read up on store inventory, maybe we can keep our names longer than a 7 or 10 which may make it more interesting.

Here is the link to ebay stores faq...

http://pages.ebay.com/storefronts/faq.html



Thanks, Smash, and see if we can't bring in revenue with this outrageous idea.

 

[smashfactory]

i just need to make sure about how it shows up in search- it is important that on listing day, they are all there dominiating several pages- they cant be all over the place- if they are not listed as auction format- with say a 7 day run- then they dont all get down on the ending soon area - when you click on ending soon- they would ALL show up there-
this is what i need to make sure we dont lose- if they dont show up as a mass, and move as a mass- then that whole point is defeated.
i got 2 hours of sleep last night so i am having a hard time making heads or tails of the ebay faq on the search

Will Store Inventory listings show up in eBay search and browse results?
A. Store Inventory listings appear in the main search results when 30 or fewer Auction-style and Fixed Price results surface in the following areas:
• eBay search and browse results
• Product Details (Catalog) pages (when seller uses Pre-filled Item Information)

Store Inventory listings always appear in the main search results at the end of Auction-style and Fixed Price results when:
• The Store Inventory check box in the Search Options box is selected on the search and browse pages.
• The buyer clicks the Buy It Now tab at the top of every search results page.


Store Inventory listings will continue to be included in specialized Stores searches in the following areas:
• "Search for Items in Stores" box at stores.ebay.com
• All searches within a single Store
• Seller's Other Items page
• Searches for Store Inventory listing only