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dont buy from asiaregistry.com SCAM

Located in Warnings and Alerts started by RockNet, Feb 1, 2007.

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  1. RockNet

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    I purchased pokeronline.hk from asiaregistry.com and guess what... they email me and tell me that your credit card was rejected and your application was denied... and now the domain is not available and listed for sale...

    im discussing this matter with a domain lawyer...andyone else have this problem?

    scam :talk:

    oh, i emailed them 59 times, called 1000 times...and no luck
     
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  2. Robert Allen

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    Thanks for the heads up, although, i was wondering if you could screenshot some proof for us? Remember to black out any credit card info.

    Rob
     
  3. RockNet

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    i would love to show you more info, but at the present time im discussing the matter with a lawyer, and i cant release any info until we get the facts togther...all i can tell you is, the domain was available...
     
  4. psalzmann

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    If that is true you have nothing to stand on. That most likely gave them a chance to see the value and registered it themselves seeing how "someone" was interested in the name.

    Either that, or they are scams. I would check to see if you can find out what happened at your CC company.. if there was some kind of "credit" or "refund" or something to this sort on your account.

    It's 50/50 at this point. If you know your card is good, it most probably is a scam.

    Additionally, you said the domain is now "unavailable" -- well find out who owns it or is the contact and send them an email from your laywer .. find out what's going on .. it's a good domain name!

    Good luck either way!
     
  5. RockNet

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    yeah, i tried chcking the whois, and guess what is not showing up... how does a domain i purchased end up on sedo.... and i get a email saying your credit card was denied...when i have over xxxx in it.... and 2nd they were quick to tell me the domain is rejected, but yet 48 hours later...not one email response to what happen to the reg...and why it has been registered ... im so mad

    anyone know who the owner/organization headquarters of .hk is

    I GOT SCREWED, look same day i registered and was denied someone else reged it

    Domain Name: POKERONLINE.HK
    Contract Version: HKDNR latest version
    Domain Name Commencement Date: 2007-02-01
    Expiry Date: 2008-02-01
    Re-registration Status: Complete
    Name of Registrar: HKDNR
    Domain Status: Active
    Active variants CDN Variant Punycode
    Inactive variants



    Registrant Contact Information
    Holder Name(English) (It should be the same as your legal name on your HKID card or other relevant documents): SEAN STEPHENSON
    Holder Name(Chinese):
    Email: [email protected]
    Country: US
    Account Name: HK1800319T



    Technical Contact Information
    First name: SEAN
    Last name: STEPHENSON
    Contact Chinese Name:
    Organization Name(English): SEAN STEPHENSON




    Name Servers Information
    Name Server 1: NS1.SEDOPARKING.COM
    Name Server 2: NS2.SEDOPARKING.COM

    im soooo pissseddd offf nowwww
     
  6. Jeff

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    You are also former member "MIR" from Toronto, correct? By the way, who is xPERSIAx ... :| :blink:

    Good Luck with your lawyer, IMHO.
    -Jeff B-)
     
  7. jaydub

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  8. Joseph

    Joseph Active Member VIP Trusted Contest Holder ★★★★★★★★★★

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    Looks like it was a case of a fault cc processing and another person thought of it etc

    Unles your were talking away away about registering it online and someone else saw it was still avail :!:

    Dosen't look as if asia registry took it
     
  9. RockNet

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    this is a scam, they will pay for it...

    here's my receipt

    TAX INVOICE: DATE: Wednesday, January 31, 2007
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    BILL TO:

    simin


    FROM:

    Domain Directors Pty Ltd.

    (Asia Registry)
    An Instra Corporation Company

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    Domain Application: pokeronline.hk
    Term: 1
    Price: USD 69.00





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    Total : USD 69.00
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    Thank you for your business.

    PLEASE NOTE: Domain Directors Pty Ltd is the billing party for Instra Corporation Pty Ltd.

    For all enquiries, please contact our friendly customer service team.


    Best Regards,


    Customer Service Team
    Instra Corporation Pty Ltd.
    [email protected]

    asiaregistry.com
     
  10. labrocca

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    Big question....did you WHOIS this BEFORE you registered it and where?
     
  11. Peter

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    No it is an organization that was the brain child of -RJ- http://dnoa.org/ Not much going on at the moment but hopefully things will start to pick up again very shortly.
     
  12. RockNet

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    there was no who is at the time of reg.... the domain was available
     
  13. Robert Allen

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    Just because it doesn't look that, doesnt mean that it isn't, it would be the asiaregistry, but using a name and address of an employee.

    There is no way to prove it until the lawyer comes.

    ROb
     
  14. Broker

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    I believe your case if you have one, is with the register and your cc company. YoYo sean is innocent and did nothing wrong. He registered an available domain name and paid for it.
     
  15. Joseph

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    :zzz: :laugh:
     
  16. B33R

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    What labrocca is actually asking is where did you do the whois lookup?

    Currently, as philfischer has already stated, you don't have a chance of suing asiaregistry. It's not their fault at all.

    If the cc firm denied the transaction, even if there is money, it's the cc firms fault NOT asiaregistry's. If the cc firm denies it then there's no way anyone will give you a domain when they haven't received the money and they have no way of getting the money.

    It's my opinion that you just got unlucky. If you searched for it in the wrong place and someone (NOT asiaregistry) logged your searches and regged it, then it's just bad luck. Maybe it's just a case of "great minds think alike".

    Take it up with the new regger, he's a member of NP so contacting him in private should be easy. I noticed you jumped on his sales thread already with legal threats. That's certainly not the way to handle it. There is a PM system, I suggest you use it before you're banned/suspended for sales thread crashing and argumentative conduct with other members.


    In fact, I'm still curious about Jeff's comment. You have had other (now banned) usernames in the past? Then clearly you've been down the banning road before and haven't learnt a thing from it if you're intent on trying to resolve this in public, in other member's threads and with constant legal threats.

    Try being civil, you'll be amazed at how much further it'll get you.
     
  17. RockNet

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    cc was working fine.... so get your point together... i was rejected - and my name was stolen..it has happend before with registars... go do a search on it on google.

    this is unfair practise...

    maybe you are right, it is a run with bad luck...either way...ive had problems with cc with godaddy...and guess what they gave me 24-48 notice to make the payment...with asiaregistry...not one email, or one respond to my emails... they are a scam and i stand firm behind it...
     
  18. mulligan

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    If you havent used your cc with asiaregistry before and depending on which country your cc was issued in and who the cc issuer is, the issuer can refuse the transaction if their system flags it as a potentially fraudulent transaction.
    This, believe it or not is for your benefit ....

    CC's are not issued with domainers in mind, when seconds or minutes are of importance.

    BTW, how can 'your' name be stolen when it was never yours in the first place?

    Or maybe you think the current US based registrant and the Hong Kong registry and / or asiaregistry are in cahoots with the implicit intention of 'stealing' 'your' domains?
     
  19. RockNet

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    the name was mine since i received a receipt indicating that the name is mine....I posted the receipt...

    you know what, asiaregistry is a scam...since not one phone call or email in the last 3 days.... that should explain itself....

    i purchased 800 domains in the last 8 years from 5+ registrar's....and never had an issue to cc, or getting a reply from them...

    i close my case... yoyo... good luck with your sale.... the message behind all is... dont trust asiaregistry...or deal with them....

    i will pay more from now on, at least ill know ill have customer service in the end.... it was my stupid mistake...that i had two windows open one for hkr, and the other for asiaregistry.... i thought i reg it at hkr...and than i realized i made a mistake and reged it from asia...

    it was good catch on my behalf since i spend almost 8 hours searching for names for .hk... catching a name like pokeronline, is rare ... so my find was a success... but the registry screwed me...

    like B33R said, im going to be a nice dude.... and forget about this... i spoke to my domain lawyer... and he suggested that we take this matter to hkr dispute centre.... it will cost me money ...

    since hk will not have the same value and respect .com and .mobi gets...i will drop this case and never ever again purchase a asian extension... i will stick to my .com and .mobi

    Forget about it!
     
  20. RockNet

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    You tell me Mr.Fish, if you owned a registrar website... and your customer's credit card was denied!

    A - Would you contact your customer and inform them to choose another method to pay!

    B - Look everyone, dude's visa is denied. What a good name, let's register it.

    C - None of the above.


    Either way, i closed my case. Time will only tell.

    4000 years ago, a man told the world... that there is two sides to the universe. One side is Cold, one side is Warm.

    Before the existence of humans, the two sides were at war and continue to be at war.

    I'm on the Positive side. Go ahead make my day. LOL

    I made a purchase, I emailed them, I called them.... not one reply..... is that the choice you want to make as a CEO?

    My bad luck, YES.... but now we know that purchasing from AsiaReg, is a high risk choice. I will not make that choice again.

    Domain is gone, who cares. What AsiaReg organization lost, is my money that I was going to invest. I was ready to make more purchases. I don't buy one domain, if your going to play the game, you mide as well take your chances with 20-50 names for one extension. 50 times more chances to sell one domain and cover the cost and make revenue.

    The point is! I save money, and take it to a site which has excellent customer service.

    GO DADDY, no hk domains... who cares... lots of .mobi choice...

    hmmm.... what should i buy next... xxxxx.mobi xxxxxxxxxxxxx.mobi hmmm..... so many choices... oh, I see one PokerXXXXXXX.mobi ...
     
  21. Peter

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    RockNet you say it is impossible that your credit card would be declined as you had $xxxx available in it.

    I myself have gone into shops in the past and had my credit card declined right in front of my eyes (in fact in most cases I simply just went to a cash machine, used the same card and went back and paid cash). So it is possible that a credit card gets declined when funds are available.

    Saying that they are scamming you because they did not respond to calls, emails etc. This does not make a company a scammer it indicates they have crap support.

    Instead of jumping the gun and making accusations you should do some checking. Have you actually tried contacting the person who is selling the domain here to clarify matters?

    Also you claim to have a receipt yet you posted an invoice. An invoice and receipt are 2 completely different things. An invoice you get BEFORE paying for an item a receipt you get AFTER paying.
     
  22. Robert Allen

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    To me, it looks like a total misunderstanding and a bad registry. It is probably the registrys fault, not the registars.

    Rob
     
  23. psalzmann

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    The right thing. Work with the customer to get him/her the domain name attempting to register on MY SITE...

    And try not to be so cut throat.

    It's actually sad.
     
  24. RockNet

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    Thank You
     
  25. instra

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    Response from Asia Registry

    Hello,

    I am Phill Parker, and I am working in a business development role with Instra Corporation. Asia Registry is one of our subsidiary businesses.

    I personally feel I need to make a response to this thread, as this person (Forum alias RockNet) has clearly exaggerated certain details, and there is also speculation on this thread that we have registered pokeronline.hk through another entity for the purpose of making an after market profit. This assumption is simply not true.

    Instra Corporation has not registered this domain name, and this domain name does not even exist in our registry account. This domain name was either registered through another accredited service partner, or directly with HKDNR.

    When we attempted to take a payment from this customer's credit card, we received a declined notice from our bank, and no payment could be successfully taken. Our banking merchant did not specify a reason other than the transaction was declined.
    When this credit card charge attempt was declined, an email notice was sent to this customer advising that we could not take payment from their credit card. We did not register this domain name, as we were unable to take payment for this domain name application.

    We have only received 3 emails from this customer, and each of these emails were sent within a period of about 15 minutes. A response was sent back to this customer within 3 days.

    Due to privacy issues, I will not disclose this customer's geographic location. I would like to mention that our telephone support service is not open during this customer's day time hours. Our telephone support lines are open Monday to Friday between 12am - 4pm (GMT).

    Our business primarily supports the Europe and Asia Pacific regions. When our telephone lines are closed, a voice mail message would advise callers of our operating hours.

    To the best of my knowledge, we have not received a telephone call from this customer about this issue.

    I do admit that we are having issues providing quick email responses to Sales and Support questions. We are however committed to improving our customer service, and we are in the process of recruiting and training new staff members.

    For any urgent enquiries, we suggest that you call our friendly support team during our operating hours.

    We are also pleased to announce that we have won the Best Performing New Service Partner 2006 (Overseas) by HKDNR - which is awarded by the Hong Kong ccTLD registry.

    This presentation ceremony will be held on March 8 2007 at the Grand Hyatt in Hong Kong.
     

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