Domains and organic traffic

[GameViewPoint]

I'm completely new to domains, but it's fascinating. Would I be right in saying that any phrase or word combinations that have any kind of organic traffic (i'e over say 200 with an exact phrase) have been registered as domains already?

The reason I ask is because using the google keyword tool, and typing in pretty much anything, and then seeing if that phrase no matter how obscure, has organic traffic always is an already registered domain (.com)

Which would mean there is no new registration domain name industry anymore because pretty much every word combination (English language) has already been registered, so from here on in it's all about the business of 2nd hand names? and if that's the case, then what is the state of the 2nd hand domain name industry, as it seems to be experiencing something of a bubble, would that be right?

I know there are no clear answers, I'm just interested in the experts opinions on all of this.

 

[Nappy Bunch]

Plenty of names left with much more exact searches than 200 in .com

 

[biggie]

I'm completely new to domains, but it's fascinating. Would I be right in saying that any phrase or word combinations that have any kind of organic traffic (i'e over say 200 with an exact phrase) have been registered as domains already?

The reason I ask is because using the google keyword tool, and typing in pretty much anything, and then seeing if that phrase no matter how obscure, has organic traffic always is an already registered domain (.com)

Which would mean there is no new registration domain name industry anymore because pretty much every word combination (English language) has already been registered, so from here on in it's all about the business of 2nd hand names? and if that's the case, then what is the state of the 2nd hand domain name industry, as it seems to be experiencing something of a bubble, would that be right?

I know there are no clear answers, I'm just interested in the experts opinions on all of this.

:talk:

Hi

understand this:

the google keyword tool results DO NOT equal amount of organic (type-in) traffic, a domain may receive.

 

[GameViewPoint]

:talk:

Hi

understand this:

the google keyword tool results DO NOT equal amount of organic (type-in) traffic, a domain may receive.

Meaning what? the keyword tool shows less than organic traffic? or more?

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Plenty of names left with much more exact searches than 200 in .com

But is 200 organic worth anything? how much traffic actually begins being worth something? just from an ads point of view (not converting to sales or anything).

 

[Nappy Bunch]

Exact searches doesn't mean the number of people who will type it with .com into the web browser. It is just the amount of times someone has keyed that phrase into google

I wouldn't say 200 global exact matches is very at all IMHO.

 

[NetOctave]

It was the case previously that you create a mini site using an Exact match name that has some decent search volume and then it would turn up on the top of search results.

But times have changed. Google is not giving priority to Exact match domain names now.
https://twitter.com/mattcutts/status/251789327691042816

 

[namemarket]

I normally look for over 10,000 with just 200 likely resulting in basically no traffic.

As far as names go if you target long-tails with 3 to 5 words (in good categories) and more than 10,000 results there are lots of targeted exact match keyword terms available some of which can get search traffic and also a bit of valuable type-in traffic.

 

[GameViewPoint]

I normally look for over 10,000 with just 200 likely resulting in basically no traffic.

As far as names go if you target long-tails with 3 to 5 words (in good categories) and more than 10,000 results there are lots of targeted exact match keyword terms available some of which can get search traffic and also a bit of valuable type-in traffic.

Everything I've looked at of any combination of letters/words (inc up to 5 words exact) with over say 500 traffic is already registered. Over 10,000 results for exact search terms?? I can't find them, but then I'm looking in the games, apps, tech sectors.

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It was the case previously that you create a mini site using an Exact match name that has some decent search volume and then it would turn up on the top of search results.

But times have changed. Google is not giving priority to Exact match domain names now.
https://twitter.com/mattcutts/status/251789327691042816

I thought google always put more weight on back-links anyway?

 

[namemarket]

Everything I've looked at of any combination of letters/words (inc up to 5 words exact) with over say 500 traffic is already registered. Over 10,000 results for exact search terms?? I can't find them, but then I'm looking in the games, apps, tech sectors.

I should have explained the 10,000 or more was referring to 3 to 5 word terms in quotes from the SE search results (not using the exact match keyword tool). In fact, I rely on that simple indicator (in combination with Insights For Search data) more than the keyword tool. Those 2 methods tells me how popular the term is in both search and use on web-pages. Depending on the term and category I actually prefer over 50,000 results with 10,000 an absolute minimum based on category.

 

[GameViewPoint]

I should have explained the 10,000 or more was referring to 3 to 5 word terms in quotes from the SE search results (not using the exact match keyword tool). In fact, I rely on that simple indicator (in combination with Insights For Search data) more than the keyword tool. Those 2 methods tells me how popular the term is in both search and use on web-pages. Depending on the term and category I actually prefer over 50,000 results with 10,000 an absolute minimum based on category.

I'm new to all this, why do you rely upon that and not the keyword tool looking for exacts? I presume insights tells you what's trending?

 

[namemarket]

I'm new to all this, why do you rely upon that and not the keyword tool looking for exacts? I presume insights tells you what's trending?

Just a personal preference I feel comfortable with.

 

[GameViewPoint]

Just a personal preference I feel comfortable with.

Cool, but wouldn't the exact phrase in keyword tool give you a more accurate guide to how popular the phrase is? or is it the other way round, because the SE way of doing it shows you the actual results?

 

[namemarket]

The KWT could be a better approach for many domainers. However, using my simple method without even looking at the KWT can sometimes find unreg'd gems with built-in natural traffic for hand registration. For example, last month found a never before registered 4-word long-tail well-known medical term in the health category with surprisingly high search result numbers. This month it had 120 visits (without the benefit of any page-rank) with a very high 90% from direct type-ins,

 

[GameViewPoint]

The KWT could be a better approach for many domainers. However, using my simple method without even looking at the KWT can sometimes find unreg'd gems with built-in natural traffic for hand registration. For example, last month found a never before registered 4-word long-tail well-known medical term in the health category with surprisingly high search result numbers. This month it had 120 visits (without the benefit of any page-rank) with a very high 90% from direct type-ins,

Thanks for the info. So this approach though is more for sites where you convert visitors to sales, rather than sites that would rely upon ads, and need a high volume of visitors?