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Domain WHOIS spam like crazy

Labeled as discuss in Domain Beginners, started by coco77, Feb 2, 2017

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  1. coco77

    coco77 Top Contributor VIP

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    Hey


    I get TONS of emails for web development, SEO etc etc
    All because i chose not to have private reg with MOST of my domains up to now.

    I keep identifying them as junk, but every day there is a few more in inbox. Getting frustrating to have to look through each one, in case I may be deleting something important that might have ended in junk.

    All these whois sites should have captcha codes required to "help" stop this shit. I know some do and some don't.

    I think it would be cool to have a community that will share a database of emails used by these service companies to be auto-flagged. What do you think? It is considered spam anyways as we NEVER opted-in to these lists. Really frustrating.

    What do you guys do?

    Thank you
     
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  2. anantj

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    I sometimes report the domains in the e-mail to the registrar it is registered with through their Abuse report interface.
    However, this does not always work as GoDaddy's abuse report form does not work :-/
     
  3. aramyus

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    As far as I know, contacting an other company is not considered as spam. It applies only for individuals (I am not 100% sure).

    In my experience, an email that starts to get serious spam can be considered as dead. There are plenty of blacklist databases that record emails and IP of spammers, but they are not an efficient barrier.

    You can try to use gmail (for a fee, gmail handles your email if it's based on a domain you own or control such as John @ DomainYouOwn.com): they have one of the best antispam system and you can reduce the flood of spam, but not eliminate it.

    I also use spamfighter. It works on MSOutlook. It's not perfect, but it works fine for a moderately spammed email.

    IMHO, captcha would not a be a solution against spam (too easy to crack). 20 years ago, Microsoft claimed spam would be under control within 2-3 years and we know the reality. Probably, the only solution would be a modification of the internet so that email senders pay a significant price to send an email. We can dream...
     
  4. Nerevar

    Nerevar Top Contributor VIP

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    Getting spam for your domains is part of the job :) No way around that.
     
  5. imadoer

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  6. biggie

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    Hi

    i get the same spam as you, probably 5 > 10 a day


    but here's a different perspective i was pondering.

    maybe... it could be payback, for all those 'outbound' spam emails that domainers send to end-users.

    here's the theory:

    since domainers are potential end-users on the development end, these spammers target us, thinking, hoping or feeling that we need or want their services.... just like some of you, send out solicitations to end-users thinking they need or want your names.

    as the earth rotates ... what goes around, comes around.

    :)

    imo...
     
  7. Nerevar

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    There is also a joker's way to retaliate: get some SEO / website / design names and reply to spammers, offering them better names for their businesses :)
     
  8. AIS01

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    Same case...:ROFL:
     
  9. coco77

    coco77 Top Contributor VIP

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    5-10 a day? Lol I get that just in INBOX, Junk must have 20-30 a day! Haha. Every day I report/send to junk a few that sneaked through into my Inbox haha
     
  10. coco77

    coco77 Top Contributor VIP

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    I think all WHOIS should be like the one at whois.domaintools dot com
    Sometimes you have to select parts of an image that has trees etc as example. If these sites would all adopt that kinda of security I am sure we would have a LOT less spam! :)
     
  11. Kenny

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    nm
     
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  12. TampaDomains

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    I get a dozen plus per day for web dev/seo and that is after spamming most all of them everyday. lol
    Luckily I switched my phone number to a google voice line that I have set to not ring but to alert me by email.
    So any call that has a message I will listen in case its a buyer but its mostly 3 second hang ups from spammers. But at least my phone isn't ringing off the hook with Indian call centers.
     
  13. Lex404

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    Well, for me all enter in spam folder by default, using gmail for more that 9 years.
    But I don't consider them really spam as they want to offer a service for you.

    Think the opposide:
    You start to search for potential end users and you start to spam them that you have a domain for sale. It's pretty the same :D
     
  14. MasterOfMyDomains

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    Stupid answer ^
    I dont need to get blasted with emails, texts and phone calls because i register a name.
    Seem to get same indian boy, their a disease.
     
  15. Jurgen Wolf

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    To minimize this Indian spam you may try myprivacy.ca for your WHOIS email...
    It requires an additional confirmation from the sender...
     
    Last edited: Feb 14, 2017
  16. coco77

    coco77 Top Contributor VIP

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    Perfect! Something I was looking for! Thank you. Just tested it out

    I assume you use it for WHOIS too?
     
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  17. Jurgen Wolf

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    I will try it later... because too many domains with many registrars... I don't have much time to rewrite WHOIS...
     
  18. coco77

    coco77 Top Contributor VIP

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    I tried it...

    It is a little confusing for somebody to actually want to follow through to send an email. Somebody will have to put in some effort to get their email across. But it will definitely , definitely wean out a lot of spam.

    Anyhow thanks again
     
  19. Jurgen Wolf

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    I already saw WHOISes which use this service, that's how I found it...
     
  20. DOMAIN ILLUMINATI

    DOMAIN ILLUMINATI Owner of ▲ the most expensive domain of all time. VIP Gold Account

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    It's definitely part of this business to get / ignore (more or less) spam emails.

    On the other side, I often react with 'counter offers', simply by sending them my offered domain/s - you never know.
    But the last time I replied in the following way:



    The friendly spam email I got from them:

    Hi <ME>,

    I hope you are having a great day!
    I noticed that you registered the domain <DOMAIN>.
    I was checking in to see if you need any website development, mobile app or SEO marketing help.
    If so, we would be happy to assist you.

    We can help you with:
    1) Website Design, Development, Maintenance & Support
    2) CMS, E-Commerce & Payment Gateway API integration
    3) SEO - Search Engine Optimization
    4) iPhone or Android Mobile App development and more
    5) Software Development

    We are India based web, mobile and software app development company.
    We would be happy to provide a best consultancy on how to improve and develop your website or build an application for your great business.
    We'd like to help you out.

    Best regards,
    <COMPANY>




    My friendly reply to them:


    Hi <COMPANY>,


    I hope you are having a great day!
    I noticed that you noticed that I registered the domain <DOMAIN>.
    I was checking to see if you need any domain for a website, mobile app or SEO marketing help.
    If so, I would be happy to assist you.

    I can help you with:
    1) Negotiating a price for this domain
    2) How to purchase / pay it
    3) How to transfer it to you
    4) How to use it for your website
    5) Purchasing more / other domains from me

    I am an Austria based private domain expert who can sell you this domain because you are a web, mobile and software app development company and I would be happy to sell you this domain because then you can provide yourself a best consultancy on how to improve and develop your domain's website or build an application for your great business.
    I'd like to help you out with this domain.

    Best regards,
    <ME>



    Of course you can only reply (especially in such way) if you have / take the time.
    At that moment I had / took it, and I am sure it was effective in some way.
     
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  21. DomainerGo

    DomainerGo DomaininingBrief.com

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    Well, the best thing you could do is mark them as spam. Email providers have a low threshold for spam, and if more than 0.1-0.2% of the messages they sent are marked as such, they're banned.

    The worst thing you could do is just ignore the email. Report it as spam!
     
  22. Steven McEvoy

    Steven McEvoy CEO, SUWP VIP

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    not just emails but stupid phone calls...
     
  23. Kenny

    Kenny Top Contributor VIP Gold Account ★★★★★★★★★★

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    1st there is a call and the person just asks "is this <your name>".
    If you say yes, they hang up and later on that day you get the sales pitch call.
    They are not really robo calls because there is a live person on the other end.
    It was cool the first couple of times, but I'm sick of them by now.
    There is a "rude domainer" thread going on... well that's when I become that guy.

    I'm tracking the phone #'s. I call back and get the machine.
    Then I call these guys >>> https://www.donotcall.gov/

    I'm also marking all the texts as spam.

    I don't know if this will help, but if we all do it maybe they will run out of numbers.

    And the whole it's all coming from Indians,
    Would it make a difference if they had Irish, or Spanish, or Cockney or German accents?
    it's just people trying to make a living, just like you and I.
    Like what was mentioned above, when domainers email or call prospective clients. It's the same.
    Only different. ;)


    Peace,
    Cy

    There are also apps you can get, but I don't know how effective they are.
     
    Last edited: Feb 15, 2017
  24. DOMAIN ILLUMINATI

    DOMAIN ILLUMINATI Owner of ▲ the most expensive domain of all time. VIP Gold Account

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    No, in a 'karma - view', simply ignoring can be better than reporting it.
    It is not their Intention to bother us, no - in most cases they are just offering serious, web related services in a friendly way - that's ok for me.
    I can react if I am interested or simply ignore if I am not.
    No reason for reporting, I don't have spam panic.
    If it is not the same company / person / email again and again, I don't see any reason to report them / him / it, that's not the way I think.

    We should not forget that we also reaching out others from time to time, offering a / some domain/s which we think that it / they could be in his / her / their interest.
    We would not be happy to get directly reported as spam, just for sending a serious, friendly offer.

    So I reiterate, it's indeed part of this business and it's not always clear what counts as 'spam' and what not, it's your individual decision how to see it.

    On the other side I admit, that my email program (Outlook) works very well and these emails are 99 % landing automatically direct in my junk mail - folder, thats the main point that they don't bother me really.
    From time to time I go through those emails and if there is nothing which is in my interest, I simply delete them.

    Until now I have never reported someone(s email) just because he sent me an offer.
     
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  25. biggie

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    here is spam i got


    from: [email protected]

    Hi, I am AnilWeb Development Manager, (India) and I work with 100+experienced IT professionals who are into: Website Designing, Web Development, Responsive Websites, PHP development, e-Commerce solutions, SEO Services and Content Writing. May I know if you are interested in any of these services? If you are interested, then I can send you our past work details.


    imo....
     

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