discuss Domain discussion more detailed than Reg of Day and Appraisals

[Want2learn]

I wanted to discuss some domains. I think Reg of the Day is good for what it is and appraisals are good for what they are! I wanted a space where we could really talk domains. I have selfish motives bc I do want to talk about my domains . . . But I want to discuss your domains as well. Feel free to jump in with any constructive feedback that you have.

 

[ultradog]

Isn't HGH still illegal w/o a prescription? in US, I mean?

 

[Want2learn]

So not in an appraisal sense, but do you see any value or marketability with these domains . . .

AtlantaFamilyPractice.com
CharlestonFamilyPractice.com
CharlotteFamilyPractice.com
LasVegasFamilyPractice.com
SanDiegoFamilyPractice.com
PhiladelphiaFamilyPractice.com
SeattleFamilyPractice.com
PhoenixFamilyPractice.com
MinneapolisFamilyPractice.com
FortWorthFamilyPractice.com

My thought process was
1. There are a ton of family practice businesses. I mean a ton. I was shocked at how many in fact.
2. I picked cities with large populations.
3. I picked cities with fairly large colleges/universities.
4. Medical as a field has a little money

 

[frank-germany]

So not in an appraisal sense, but do you see any value or marketability with these domains . . .

AtlantaFamilyPractice.com
CharlestonFamilyPractice.com
CharlotteFamilyPractice.com
LasVegasFamilyPractice.com
SanDiegoFamilyPractice.com
PhiladelphiaFamilyPractice.com
SeattleFamilyPractice.com
PhoenixFamilyPractice.com
MinneapolisFamilyPractice.com
FortWorthFamilyPractice.com

My thought process was
1. There are a ton of family practice businesses. I mean a ton. I was shocked at how many in fact.
2. I picked cities with large populations.
3. I picked cities with fairly large colleges/universities.
4. Medical as a field has a little money

I found those hard to sell
and for $xxx USD only

 

[Want2learn]

I found those hard to sell
and for $xxx USD only

Because doctors aren't interested in websites?

 

[Ategy]

I am curious what you think about SpecificLearningDisability.com. I want to say that the parents who PMd me as parents of kids with a disability get this topic. And Im unaware if you have any familiarity with this subject, but for some reason I suspect you have a wide range of knowledge.

Please appraise SpecificLearningDisability.com

It's ReallyTooLong.com! lol

Seriously though .. it's rather long .. plus I'd think that if someone were creating a site about a "specific" disability, they would want that specific one named or referred to in some way in the URL.

That being said .. I don't know the field at all .. so if it is a specific term that actually represents something (not just a group of things) then it could have a bit of value .. but then I'd go back to my first comment in that's it's seriously long.

I'm thinking little to no value .. but you've proven us wrong with your sales so far .. so who knows ... lol .. i'll just wish you good luck with them!

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The problem with your math here is that theory says decent portfolios sell at a 2% rate .. so say you have 100x domains you bought at $100 .. you'd only make about $600 per year ... with at least $850 renewal fees. So you're losing $20 per year. Plus that's just to break even on the year .. then add to that the fact you never see any part of the original $10,000 investment. So after year 1 you're at -$10,250. Year 2 -$10,500. etc etc

Now obviously those are just averages .. but I think you know what I mean.


Also ... I think the problem here is that you're asking general domainers for advice on a domain where the only possible value lies in the technical terms of a specific industry niche. The fact none of us understood the term goes to show that this domain could only possibly sell to a very small refined set of end users. Not the end of the world if it's a good niche that pays and is actively looking for domains. However in this case my guess is that your knowledge of the niche might be blinding you to it's potential (or more specifically it's lack of potential). Obviously since I don't know the niche I could very well be wrong .. I'm just guestimating based on your explanations.

Don't feel too bad ... I've definitely done this myself .. and still do to a certain degree (as I'm sure most of us have). It's easier to imagine a cool end-use or usefully informative site on domains related to niches we personally know and understand ourselves.


I think sometimes a good imagination while sometimes being a huge advantage in domaining ... can also be a dangerous hindrance .. as we too easily see cool end uses for various domain names and thereby artificially inflate their values .. which ends up making us more likely to buy them at too high a price .. or even to buy domains that really don't have enough value to have been worth buying at any price.


Again though .. you could always get lucky .. it only takes one person to buy a domain .. but if you're looking at domaining in the long term you need to take a step back to look at the big picture and law of averages. I'm at that point as well .. it's hard to say no sometimes when you're growing your portfolio ... lol

Essentially you'll need to outbound this is you want to see it's true value .. I don't see the chances being very high of anyone in the industry going out looking for that name specifically (although it could happen)

 

[ultradog]

The couple of medical domains I've sold, the doctor or his broker contacted me. So the name has got to be extremely good for them. If I were you, I'd stick with the cities that are most prosperous, and most family-oriented. For example, Pittsburgh is extremely family-oriented, and one dr. here named his practice "Pittsburgh Family Practice." He does not own the domain. However, he's being smart about his signage.

 

[Mister Funsky]

I'm constantly having to review the use of plurals in names.

I was pulling through the posts to see if you had added more info about the white label site you mentioned earlier and wanted to comment on the plural aspect,

If I come across a name that I consider to be good and marketable, I grab the plural if it is available and is not too odd sounding. Then when negotiating with a buyer, when I feel we have reached the end of the negotiation cycle, I say "ok, if you agree to pay x$ for chromechair.com, I will throw in chromechairs.com for free".

 

[Want2learn]

Please appraise SpecificLearningDisability.com



Essentially you'll need to outbound this is you want to see it's true value .. I don't see the chances being very high of anyone in the industry going out looking for that name specifically (although it could happen)

I appreciate the feedback. We definitely see this one differently. Hope I am right!

 

[frank-germany]

Because doctors aren't interested in websites?

let me know when you sold them

 

[ultradog]

I have a suggestion for the medical names: Look first for doctors in each city who already have websites, ones whose sites look like they're trying to catch customers rather than just letting the public know they're there. If they have lots and lots of specific treatments mentioned, for example. That's who you'd want to contact, in my opinion. All they need to do is point the domain to their main website. It's valuable as a search term for them.

 

[Joe N]

I appreciate the feedback. We definitely see this one differently. Hope I am right!

I agree with @Ategy.com on this one. Admittedly, I know nothing of the commercial appeal of the SLD term, but with a name this long you're always fighting an up-hill battle.

Here are Namebio's last 100 reported sales of names with 25+ characters:

https://namebio.com/?s==UDOwAzM5ITM

Only three names on there went for over $1000, and most were in the low $XXX range. I think that speaks volumes.

If you're expecting more than a few bucks for a long name, I think it really does have to be a world crusher.

 

[Haykay2005]

I have a suggestion for the medical names: Look first for doctors in each city who already have websites, ones whose sites look like they're trying to catch customers rather than just letting the public know they're there. If they have lots and lots of specific treatments mentioned, for example. That's who you'd want to contact, in my opinion. All they need to do is point the domain to their main website. It's valuable as a search term for them.

Like I own LouisvilleDoctor.com.... The plural version once sold for $3500

 

[Ategy]

Like I own LouisvilleDoctor.com.... The plural version once sold for $3500

You need to remember that past sales from back in the days where parking advertizing paid 10x what it does today makes keyword and directory type domain sales completely incomparable today.

What could have been a $10k domain back then is now effectively worthless .. or at least not worth the investment to a reseller/domainer.

Still the singular is better than the plural .. you'd likely need to do outbound on this to get a sale though. Good luck with it!

 

[Haykay2005]

You need to remember that past sales from back in the days where parking advertizing paid 10x what it does today makes keyword and directory type domain sales completely incomparable today.

What could have been a $10k domain back then is now effectively worthless .. or at least not worth the investment to a reseller/domainer.

Still the singular is better than the plural .. you'd likely need to do outbound on this to get a sale though. Good luck with it!

I understand your position. Just that I prefer inbound inquiry on my GEO than doing outbound. Have sold many GEO domains tru inbound. I make more money that way.
Selling GEO tru outbound most times lead to poor figure. Thanks

 

[UmerK]

I understand your position. Just that I prefer inbound inquiry on my GEO than doing outbound. Have sold many GEO domains tru inbound. I make more money that way.
Selling GEO tru outbound most times lead to poor figure. Thanks

Interesting perspective, was wondering if you could share some of those sales. How long on average do you hold geo domains before you receive an inbound? I've got few of them but have hardly seen any action.

 

[Want2learn]

let me know when you sold them

I may be misunderstanding you. You said you found them difficult to sell, and for only XXX. I asked you why that was, if you thought it was because doctors aren't interested in websites? You then told me to tell you when I have sold them. Have I missed something? If asking you why you thought that was (why they don't sell for much) offended you, my bad.

 

[Kuffy]

I was pulling through the posts to see if you had added more info about the white label site you mentioned earlier and wanted to comment on the plural aspect,

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The sponsor that I used to use to promote casino sites has merged with another group, and it looks as if they may not be so good, so I'm reviewing sponsors atm. I'm a member of a casino webmasters board, so I'll see what gets suggested there. I rejoined my old health sponsor, and they have given me some website templates, hence the HGH interest. It took me about 2 minutes to put this site onto the web - HGH age , and about 2 hours to choose the name. I'll do a bit of customising on the site later, and I've got some ideas about traffic generation. I want to make it part of a cluster of health domains, so I'll have to introduce a bit of cross linking.

 

[Mister Funsky]

I rejoined my old health sponsor, and they have given me some website templates, hence the HGH interest.

hghage looks good...nice and clean. I've got several health domains that are worth doing the same with. Thanks for sharing...any pointers to quality sponsors would be appreciated.

 

[Kuffy]

hghage looks good...nice and clean. I've got several health domains that are worth doing the same with. Thanks for sharing...any pointers to quality sponsors would be appreciated.

I sent you a pm rather than spam the board with my ref link.

 

[Want2learn]

I agree with @Ategy.com on this one. Admittedly, I know nothing of the commercial appeal of the SLD term, but with a name this long you're always fighting an up-hill battle.

Here are Namebio's last 100 reported sales of names with 25+ characters:

https://namebio.com/?s==UDOwAzM5ITM

Only three names on there went for over $1000, and most were in the low $XXX range. I think that speaks volumes.

If you're expecting more than a few bucks for a long name, I think it really does have to be a world crusher.

The $64 question with the bolded part. I agree! I am curious to discover the commercial appeal!

The underlined portion may be true 98% of the time . . . long domains arent great. But in this case it is wrong. I have explained ad nauseam in other threads why that is the case (I imagine it does not interest you, so I won't bore you). You said you aren't familiar with special ed, so we ca just disagree
I do appreciate the feedback nevertheless!

 

[cipcip]

I am interested in selling motel.tips if I find the right buyer, I also own moteltips.com if someone prefers the .com version of the website. What do you guys think ?

 

[Want2learn]

motel.tips is a nice hack! Who are potential end users?

 

[karmaco]

I think the GEO plus Doctor or Doctors would be best. Make your sector specific names as broad as possible for more potential end users. If its only limited to family practices that take alot of doctors out of the equation. If I had to be more specific because plain old doctors was take I'd aim at Specialities that are lucrative to the doctor. Surgeons, Dermatology, Cosmetic Surgery names, Ortho, Neurologists, Sports medicine, Therapists & Counseling, Cancer. Gyno etc.

 

[ramkumaritrvs]

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[Want2learn]

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