Does listing a domain for sale on a forum destroy future selling potential?

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Hi,

As like many domainers I reach out to end-users on most of my domains and when I have no response after numerous emails I then advertise the same domains for sale on namepros and other domaining forums. I then leave it a few months and try to reach out again to end-users.

I know that when end-users do a little research on the domain you are selling they type in the search engine " domain.com " to see if you have listed it for sale anywhere and the listing on the forums obviously pops up.

Because the end-user can see that you could not sell the domain for $xx or $xxx on forums they instantly loose interest.

So does putting a domain name up for sale on any domaining forum mean the end for your domain if it does not sell?

Even asking for an appraisal can bad, I have previously had an end-user pick up on this, he said " How can you justify your asking price when all these people think its only worth £xxx"

Would love to know everyone's thoughts on this, should selling on a forum be the last resort before you drop?

Or do you live in hope that potential buyers do not type in "domain.com" into their seach engine and contact you with a nice offer?

Cheers

Stu
 
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Good topic Stu and its one a lot of newer domainers probably don't realize when they list their names everywhere. A lot of experienced domainers go and edit their posts but you never know when an end user could be looking up a name.

I think the typing in happens more when people get offers out of the blue. Meaning someone is looking to move some domains at the wholesale level and puts up a post for domains at $30. They then get an offer from an end user, like how much ? They quote $5,000. The end user does some research and puts the domain in Google and sees it listed for $30.

Editing listings is important, I one time worked with a company that was getting quoted $5,000 but the seller had it for sale for $20 on a forum, they joined the forum and posted sold at $20. Now the name was not a $5,000 but it was probably worth $500. The problem is domainers ratchet their price up so much when getting an email about buying a domain that they think every end user is Google. This company was three people and would have paid $500. They went on Google for the reason of trying to understand the asking price of $5,000. Googled the name.com and the thread came up in search.
 
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A lot of experienced domainers go and edit their posts but you never know when an end user could be looking up a name.

I have done this a few times myself on namepros, impossible to do on DNF and other forums though, you have to put the name of the domain in the title and you can only get rid if you ask the moderator to delete the thread, however this still can be seen on google when the potential buyer types "domain.com" in their search engine.
 
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Hey Stu,

When I list a domain I always list them like this,

Great .COM domain

Keyword Keyword
Age
Price

I place the extension on top and then space out the keywords to try and avoid the search engines from picking it up.
Even in the title I space the keywords apart from one another.

:)
 
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That's smart Lennco, you definitely have to think about it when posting so you can have less search results.

DN Forum you have to put the name in the title does spacing work for that ?
 
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That's smart Lennco, you definitely have to think about it when posting so you can have less search results.

DN Forum you have to put the name in the title does spacing work for that ?

Thanks :)
Good question, I have never listed on there so I wouldn't know about that one.
 
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Hi,

As like many domainers I reach out to end-users on most of my domains and when I have no response after numerous emails I then advertise the same domains for sale on namepros and other domaining forums. I then leave it a few months and try to reach out again to end-users.

I know that when end-users do a little research on the domain you are selling they type in the search engine " domain.com " to see if you have listed it for sale anywhere and the listing on the forums obviously pops up.

Because the end-user can see that you could not sell the domain for $xx or $xxx on forums they instantly loose interest.

So does putting a domain name up for sale on any domaining forum mean the end for your domain if it does not sell?

Even asking for an appraisal can bad, I have previously had an end-user pick up on this, he said " How can you justify your asking price when all these people think its only worth £xxx"

Would love to know everyone's thoughts on this, should selling on a forum be the last resort before you drop?

Or do you live in hope that potential buyers do not type in "domain.com" into their seach engine and contact you with a nice offer?

Cheers

Stu

Other option you can think is listing your name for sale in your signature. You can control it without depending on moderator for deleting or editing the post. I think it doesn't show up in Google search results.

Secondly, it also doesn't show up in Quotes when quoted by someone in their post. E.g. I'm quoting your post right now but it won't show the name that is there in your signature.
 
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Hey Stu,

When I list a domain I always list them like this,



I place the extension on top and then space out the keywords to try and avoid the search engines from picking it up.
Even in the title I space the keywords apart from one another.

:)


This is the best, IMO.

At DNF is very bad thing that you must enter full domain name in topic.

I had one domain at this forum with sale price of $20 when end-user contacted me through email and asked about the price. I immediately deleted the name from thread at NP and answered with 1900 EUR. I sold the domain for 1300 or 1500 EUR (don't remember anymore).
If this name was at DNF with domain name as topic name I would get only $20 for it.

Topic names on strong forums are very loved from Google ;)

At DNF you must include at least one domain in topic when selling multiple names in thread. Then I include the worst name just to fulfill the form :)
 
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Does listing a domain for sale on a forum destroy future selling potential?


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short answer is , Yes for those who "have to sell" or for those who "don't know how to negotiate a deal".

remember, you DON"T HAVE TO SELL your names to anyone, so why should what an end-user say they saw or read about pricing associated with your domains matter?


I have listed hundreds of names on forums and NOT ONE end-user EVER questioned a previous price.


but here's a tip for you clowns ( affectionately said ) who don't know how to "POST" domain names for sale on forums.


if, you think you ever will snag an end-user, then don't ever list a price....just ask for offers. duh!


don't be afraid of spiders putting your sales thread on Google.

you dumb asses are always trying to get rank or grow traffic for your names and get visibility, yet on the other hand you don't want your names cached in SE's


DUH!!!!

ain't the object of the game to get your name in front of eyeballs?

how many of you clowns are willing to pay brand bucket $10 to be listed on their site, when you can get just as much long lasting exposure by being cached.

another point, on dnf, if your thread doesn't get closed, you can edit anything you want... if you know what you're doing.

it's your business, exercise control and quit believing in the negative hype.


imo...
 
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posted by biggie:
if, you think you ever will snag an end-user, then don't ever list a price....just ask for offers. duh!

Or don't list it at all ... or, and to me this is the crux of the matter, ask yourself how a domain for which you would accept $20 on a forum could possibly be worth 100x that, unless you just got stupidly lucky. The whole myth of "reseller price vs. end user price" feeds this idiotic mindset, and frankly people who are dumb enough to not miss the massive logical leap between a domain being worth x at one venue and 100x at another, probably deserve to have their idiocy outed via forums to well-informed prospective buyers.


Frank
 
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posted by biggie:


Or don't list it at all ... or, and to me this is the crux of the matter, ask yourself how a domain for which you would accept $20 on a forum could possibly be worth 100x that, unless you just got stupidly lucky. The whole myth of "reseller price vs. end user price" feeds this idiotic mindset, and frankly people who are dumb enough to not miss the massive logical leap between a domain being worth x at one venue and 100x at another, probably deserve to have their idiocy outed via forums to well-informed prospective buyers.


Frank

I partly agree with you, but only partly ;) Domainers often list domains on forums. Domains that they tried to sell to end-users without success. I am talking about real domainers. Newbies will list almost every domain on forum and I like that :D

I listed one domain with price of $20 because I failed to sell it on other ways and I wanted to get rid of that domain. Also, it was .mobi.

Also, prices can vary from person to person and from time to time in correlation with their need for money in specific moment ;)

Sometimes I have some domains for which I would accept immediate $30 or $50 on forums instead searching for end-users and maybe get $300. Domains with real value I will never offer on forums. :)
 
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