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Does age matter in domain name ?

Labeled as opinion in Domain Buying and Selling Discussion started by Salman Mandal, Feb 9, 2019.

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  1. Salman Mandal

    Salman Mandal Established Member

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    Does domain age effects my domain name price ? Does it depend on how old is the domain is ?
     
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  3. NYJimbo

    NYJimbo Domain Re-Animator

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    History of the domain is more important than the simple age. Age allows you to see what it has done in the past, but just being an old domain does not make it worth more, its what we get out of its history that tells us what it might do in the future.
     
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  4. Salman Mandal

    Salman Mandal Established Member

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    i see. So, does that mean that a (great name) new domain name will be listed at lower price than a older domain (average name) ?
     
  5. Sami Ketolainen

    Sami Ketolainen Top Member VIP

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    Age means something, if the domain name is developed and been active business / website in the past for long time. If the domain name is aged 20 years and has been for sale, everyone perhaps knows does that domain name have value.

    Also, there are some good hand-reg domains still available, but about 95% of available hand-reg domains are just worthless and that's the reason why they aren't registered.

    Hopefully this helps you.

    Thanks,
    Sami.
     
  6. NYJimbo

    NYJimbo Domain Re-Animator

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    No, not at all. But who decides "great" and "average" ?

    Keep in mind, every old expired domain is new when its re-registered. So is it old or new ?
     
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  7. barman

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    Yes.

    Just because a domain is old doesn't mean it's good. But great domains are usually old.

    Personally I like to stick to names that are at least 10 years old, usually older. I have a lot of my filters setup this way, which means I definitely miss out on some good names and trends, but overall requires less time from me.

    If a name has been registered for 20 years and its never been for sale, there's a good chance there's a lot of built up "desire" for the name. For 20 years people have been trying to buy this name but the owner doesn't response. When it drops and you put up a for sale sign, the floodgates open!
     
  8. Salman Mandal

    Salman Mandal Established Member

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    So, can i earn money by selling a domain which is 2 month old ? Will anyone go for it ?
     
  9. barman

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    Yes. People make money with hand-registrations.

    But they're two different strategies. I like to focus on older, dropped domains at NJ or GD.

    Some people like hand registering domains and flipping them for $xx. Sometimes you get lucky with a hand reg that you can sell for $xxxx or more.

    But there's only so much time in the day and I don't have time for both strategies, so dealing in older, higher quality names is my preference.
     
  10. whenpillarsfall

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    People get too hung up on age, although for obvious reasons the vast majority of good names are older because people registered them sooner.

    But equally, you see some worthless domains registered back in the 90s, so it's certainly not a sure thing
     
  11. Bob Hawkes

    Bob Hawkes formerly MetBob NameTalent VIP

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    Most super premium legacy extension domains will be aged (obvious exceptions new niches). But age alone is not a sufficient indicator of quality.

    Age has little relevance to new extensions.

    Since the age resets on expiry many domains that seem new really are not.

    People do successfully sell hand regs as the report completed sales thread indicates.

    Age seems immaterial to end users. For example a keynote speaker at the last NamesCon who has sold many millions of dollars said an end user had never asked about age.

    Age can be a useful filter to save time, if you accept you will miss some good names by using it.

    The value of the name to potential end users is really the paramount criterion.

    I think age definitely helps if selling names wholesale to domainers, but irrelevant when selling to end users.

    Bob
     
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  12. wizard

    wizard Domain Wizard VIP ★★★★★★★★★★

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    No it doesn't matter !

    We have domains registered back in 1995 but doesn't make any difference...
     
  13. Page Howe

    Page Howe Top Member PRO VIP ★★★★★★★★★★

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    i think AGE can matter when trying to whittle down a list of 400,000 dropping names, i use i. (but you all shouldnt.. LOL).

    Best comments above say maybe, its an indicator.

    I will say it gives you some semblance of hard cost if you telling a buyer youve not only kept up the renewals, but refused other offers, and managed it for 10 years.

    and conversely, if it a recent reg date, then folks above have shares you can explain the auction system, i say its like storage wars, if there was a gold bar in a safe, whoever bought that locker paid a bunch, as i did for this wonderful name im selling you.

    Ill also use the line, its been owned except for changing hands continously since 199?

    Page
     
  14. Jurgen Wolf

    Jurgen Wolf Top Member VIP ★★★★★★★★★★

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    90-95% of endusers are not aware about WHOIS... So age is irrelevant for most enduser sales.
    It has some importance only for SEO specialists and domainers.

    p.s. Majority of my sales were done within 1st or 2nd year from regdate.
    Some even within 1-90 days.
     
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  15. Salman Mandal

    Salman Mandal Established Member

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    But buying dropped domain names are expensive for me. hand regg is cheap. I am trying to be creative so that i don't have to wait for a long time. Is it ok ?
     
  16. Salman Mandal

    Salman Mandal Established Member

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    i see. Thanks
     
  17. Shuttlepro

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    As per brokers on linkedin I've spoken with, most scoff at hand registers. Sorry it's just the truth most of the time. They don't take them serious unless they're very keyword rich expired perhaps. Aged domains have authority and most bidders prefer that when buying, from what I can tell. Aged names don't need to build up authority like one registered yesterday for example would in age and since the better keywords were regged long ago 9 times out of 10.

    Top high auctions @ godaddy ages

    22666.com - 17 years
    Infobright.com - 16 Years
    Powa.com - 15 years
    887666.com - 6 Years
    85A.com - 15 Years
    368222.com - 6 Years
    Hydron.com - 23 Years
    Seeus.com - 21 Years

    First page lowest age was around 5 years highest around 23.
     
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  18. Eric Lyon

    Eric Lyon Member Services, NamePros Super Moderator PRO Gold Account VIP Trusted Contest Holder

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    I posted the following in How Does The Age A Name Bring Value?:

    Hope that helps,
     
  19. johnnie018

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    Yes, very important, listen to BarMan.

    New names are 99.999% junk.
     
  20. Bob Hawkes

    Bob Hawkes formerly MetBob NameTalent VIP

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    Thanks for the link to your well reasoned response @Eric Lyon.

    I don't dispute at all what you say @Shuttlepro - names that sell for much are usually aged (at least within legacy extensions). Sites that show age and sell mainly to domainers will show even stronger correlations. However names can be old under many different scenarios. It is the quality of the name to end users that is important. Age is correlated with price, but except in cases of search positive prior use it does not directly cause value, in my opinion.
     
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  21. Domains - Wanted

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    Yes, depending on it's history / former authority, if any, that is the name's potential for "reincarnation" as part of a PBN... blackhat SEO stuff :sneaky:

    This aside, generally, an aged domain is always better than one registered more recently, come price negotiation time :xf.wink:
     
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  22. frank-germany

    frank-germany F1lter.com xpired domain search engine Gold Account VIP

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    No
    https://www.namepros.com/threads/faq.1122996/


    sorry there are really stupid domains registered long ago
    I know because I still own a few of them
    - just don't know which -
     
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  23. lock

    lock Traffic.tools VIP

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    Age assists in the resale as anything with history. It is something that helps build value. There maybe backlinks which also influence as well as other traffic.
    Does a crap 20 year old name stack against a great 2 word gTLD no.
    It is all still on the names merit if your keeping an inferior name alive just because it is old then your making a poor decision.
     
  24. BuyBrandWeb.com

    BuyBrandWeb.com Praveen Chidaboyina PRO Gold Account VIP

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    For domain name- It does not matter!
    For Men/Women - It does matter .. LOL
     
  25. Rory Ivey

    Rory Ivey Top Member VIP

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    You should be ashamed if you registered a bad domain in 1995, when computers.com and other gems were available... Kill yourself... just kidding... just go cry in a corner.
     

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