Located in Domain Marketplace Reviews, started by dande, Jul 24, 2019
Thanks, I wasnt aware Gube removed his badge or left.
I haven't been paying attention to it, until I read in some other thread somebody asking Gube the same question, if he was still with Epik. I took him as a loyal, hardcore part of Epik, so was surprised he didn't have the badge anymore. That's when I checked that page. I remember it being 50, now it's 38. The talk was it could go over 100 and then what are we going to do about the polls, should employees be allowed to vote, all that stuff. So it's going the other way. I think Samer has earned it, hovering over Epik threads when he's not sleeping.
It probably got restarted, erasing all the active sessions
I did leave a few weeks ago, yes
Thanks for confirming it.
The problem there, Rob, is that's not true:
And the very page which had the "Tax Advantages" check mark, STILL, TODAY, includes this discussion here:
I just took that screenshot. It's not from an archive.
So, sure, earlier this year you removed the "Tax Advantages" item from the checkmark box, but the page, RIGHT NOW, suggests that Masterbucks can be used to avoid income and capital gains taxes.
time to let the nipple go ... this is too funny, lol
Incorrect wording? The archive shot is from 2018, and Rob M says they "re-did the site" in 2020. So, two years is a long time to be advertising "Tax Advantages". And if that was "incorrect wording", then what are the correct words for what they were trying to say?
Aside from which, the stuff about capital gains and income tax is still on the Epik.com site. Their Twitter account has already attempted to explain it away as an "archive" that referred to swaps of zero value domains, but that doesn't sound anything like "brokered sales" which would have capital gains or income tax implications in the first place.
I'm neutral but I'm leaning toward epik because my portfolio needs them to succeed in order for me to make money. They are one of two competitively priced registrars that offer both sedo and afternic fast transfer as well as catchall email forwarding. The other being namesilo. Dynadot sort of does it but they have issues with the email forwarding if you set the DNS a certain way.
I don't mean to get involved, but you posted a screenshot from 2020 that has the word "tax" in it and are using that to prove they are advertising tax evasion. The sentence says nothing of the sort. "another significant issue is ***" that does not say "please use masterbucks to avoid taxes".
However, that being said, they should have never admitted or stated that they have any sort of partiality toward either political wing. That was not professional and they might be able to limit the damage to just domainers and a mashable article if they stop now and take the position that they are just a domain registrar, not a right wing conservative domain registrar, just because someone once accused them of something. most people don't even know about that. But if mainstream news articles start coming out saying they are right wing, then we are sunk.
[Editing to add: I'm the Wikipedia editor who goes by the username "GorillaWarfare" and who created and helps to maintain the article about Epik. Realized that's a bit of an important detail to include up-front!]
Didn't expect to find myself back here, but I saw the Mashable article about Epik too. It came up in my news recommendations and when I saw the intro sentence that "PayPal, Hunter Biden, Bloomberg News, and several Avengers were targeted in a series of unhinged open letters from Epik after PayPal terminated its account" I went to read them since that sounded amusing, if nothing else. I was surprised to see that Epik decided to use these letters to attack me personally, as well, with a whole slew of false claims. Given Epik had stopped their threats against me here and in other venues, and given I hadn't made any substantive changes to the Wikipedia article since the insanity from April, I was pretty floored to see it. From the letter to Bloomberg:
Two years later, Wikipedia still maintains 24 hour surveillance by a user named GorillaWarfare, who has already proclaimed that the content will never come down, regardless of the truth coming out. To date, roughly 170 attempts at changes – by dozens of industry professionals – have been reverted. Their weaponized user base has openly mocked anyone who has tried, and one of Wikipedia’s top editors (also responsible for the Satanic Bible), has literally posted Swastikas on our own social media feeds and statements against racism. The editor still posts taunts in trade forums and personal social media pages, with the reaffirmation that no one has the power to stop them.
It's a pretty bizarre statement given I think I've been nothing but clear in my comments that the article can always be updated to reflect new information that is published in independent, reliable sources. The comment about how I am "responsible for the Satanic Bible" is, I assume, meant to convey that I have contributed to the Wikipedia article about The Satanic Bible, and presumably not that I am somehow personally responsible for the existence of a book that was first published twenty years before I was born. Oddly enough they never mention that I also created an article on a Roman Catholic basilica... As for the accusation that I have "literally posted Swastikas on our own social media feeds and statements against racism" is presumably a reference to a tweet of mine in which I included a screenshot of an Ars Technica article about Epik that included as its lead image a screenshot of the swastika-laden front page of Nazi publication The Daily Stormer, because AT was writing about how the site had just come back up thanks to Epik.
Anyway, I just wanted to post here to say that I certainly hope my attempts to explain how Wikipedia works and defend myself from attacks from Epik staff, which I did at the express invitation of members of this forum (see my first post here), did not come off to the rest of you as "posting taunts in trade forums" or as an intrusion.
I hope you're all well,
I like the new page.
It is new-and-improved. Tone-down in rhetoric is good, yes?
The "suggestion" feels like splitting hair.
Good they are listening to constructive feedback.
"Tax benefits" is under attack, @Rob Monster.
Even if they omit it,still see many advantages to using Masterbucks;
My problem remains, and continues to remain the name; "Masterbucks"
Call it something better!
This guy seems to have gotten to the bottom of it all...
We had no idea our today's first experience with Epik was negative due to Satanic vibes, deep political manipulation, corrupt and/or nonobjective media and PayPal execs, and perhaps a wiki-powered secret society here and there.
We just thought their website layout, page propagation and accidental deletion of submitted forms, and especially their not-so-Epik servers sucked.
Now we know there is more to it. (Rob, Monster #1 in the right upper corner, is this how Epik's data centre looks like this time of year? Perhaps Bloomberg should get invited to this press conference. It's not that different from other corporate presentations. Hope you will mention the Catholic basilica this time instead of Epik's favourite Satanic Bible.)
Credit: Scream Factory's Thirteen Ghosts; The Movie Isle
Thank God PayPal only want to extermiante white people, not exterminate.
I don’t really get what the fuss about masterbucks is, it is essentially an internal balance in a closed platform much like namesilo, dynadot, moniker, and every other register has.
One minute crypto was evil to PayPal, and they would lock accounts for attempting to purchase it with PayPal, but now they are ok with it since they can profit from it. PayPal has some of the worst exchange fees, most PayPal accounts are linked to a credit card, or bank, why not use your cc and get points. Crypto is on the cusp, so hopefully PayPal can’t sidetrack online sellers, and companies much further with their policies.
Pound for pound epik offers the most diverse options for domain sellers under one roof, totally impartial after using every other company, and finding certain limitations within each. Namesilo has been trying to follow in their footsteps, but they have really upped their social game in the past year, and I guess other competing registers have taken notice, it’s not unusual for companies to conspire against each other when competing in disruptive spaces. I don’t want to speculate on what has transpired, but epik are innovators from being the first with built in payment plans from your domain manage menu, to various other tools, they will get thru this also.
Free .realty domain=really cool
.realty domain renewal=really scary??
Epik has history legendary customer service.
You’re just (happily) piling on.
Still waiting for Rob Monster’s response.
In Rob i trust!
Most of your points are valid, but have you not faced numerous technical issues with their site? Logical issues too, like not providing an in-house whois shielding option. No other big player signed up for their multi platform concept. Why don't they just dump it and make everything seamless?
They might be innovative and smart, but our first test hour with them was a nightmare. With GD we wouldn't even fill up the same form three times. With them we did. The details were requested again a few minutes later. Not that we messed up. The submission was accepted, but their system simply deleted all the details and acted offended that we never provided them in the first place.
If this didn't happen we would have probably discovered those incredible payment plans but their layout is weird and bugs are omnipresent. Innovators or not, how can you and @Samer like them this much. Dyno...(something) and name.com don't make users suffer at all. First one based on what others told us, second one being our chosen provider.
We are trying to understand this, not to offend their supporters. Why don't they just fix those easily fixable issues and stop deterring new users in the process?
Not true —its not the same as other registrars who use real dollars. I feel alot more safe doing a sale for $15,000 DOLLARS than for $15000 MASTERBUCKS. And why do you have to put a request in and be approved to take your own money out? It should be automatic.
Same here, plus for @Sedo about that scam email "from Sedo" you commented on elsewhere. It would be logical for these companies to have someone standing by to answer things in real time. Especially when it comes to fraud and financial/security issues. For a few days during a crisis, perhaps once or twice a year; they don't do this. Illogical. The damage can truly harm their PR and is totally not worth the money they might save by not having a dedicated chat specialist standing by.
Not the case. One hour of hell. Not piling on, just saying they suck for real.
No new user will call their fabulous customer service reps just because something which should work isn't working. Most will just go elsewhere. At least we let them know why they suck. Hopefully they will fix the issue so we can give them another try.
With two clicks you withdraw it to various options, as it pays out instantly when a buyer checkouts.
I don’t see it as a major hurdle, as some might want to use funds to renew, or buy other names, and they have the option to do so.
Come on man, get over it. It was a bad timing/luck. They just had an issues like other registrars have. I consider Dynadot one of the best options, but their site is down frequently.
Looks like your having a bad day with certain services, unfortunate but the platform does work for it’s intended uses. It takes a while to get used to the various menus, and functions. The tools enabled within the platform are a great asset to new domain investors if they use them properly.
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