news Dan.com to increase comission from 9% to 15% effective Feb 1st 2023

[MadAboutDomains]

Just received this email from Dan.com about commission increases (snippet of email):

Thoughts?

 

[ET76]

Suppose I point my domains to Afternic nameservers but it sold on the their network, so the commission will be 25% instead 15%?

 

[Rhinnnn]

Suppose I point my domains to Afternic nameservers but it sold on the their network, so the commission will be 25% instead 15%?

Everything that points to a GoDaddy nameserver (Afternic, DAN, Uniregistry, etc) qualifies for the 15% flat commission, regardless of how the sale is made (directly from the lander, via the distribution network, doesn't matter).

The 25% commission is only for domains that are listed on Afternic or DAN but have nameservers pointed to something unrelated to GoDaddy.

 

[boker]

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now that you got done speaking from emotion, please calm down and think about reality. Almost all sales being reported on here are made ad afternic and after that dan.

If I have a choice between charging more for domains to compensate for the fee increase, or removing my names from AN, I choose to up the price.

It's not emotion, when you sell more through paypal, sedo, escrow, dan, (landers) compared with afternic/godaddy, that's not emotion, that's reality. Do you have an idea what % of the total are the namepros reports? We are not even talking about afternic fan boys, reporting just to pump afternic numbers. A better view of reality will be to check the afternic turnover at the end of the year and compare them to sedo, dan or others and you will be surprised. Again, between casual reports and reality is a big difference.

 

[Dane]

Hmmm. Yesterday, when this Dan thing was announced, I logged into my Afternic account and changed ALL prices (on ALL names) to "Make Offer" (without showing any price). Today, Afternic sent me price requests for 2 different names. The emails say: "Price Requested on your AfternicDLS Domain" and "we require that every domain have a Floor Price and Buy Now Price within 48 hours of receiving a sales lead."

I'm confused. If I set the names as "Make an Offer", why would I have to submit a price? Shouldn't the buyer have to submit an offer?

Also, would it be different if I enabled Afternic's Distribution Network from within my Dan.com account, instead of going directly through Afternic? Or would it be exactly the same?

 

[NameGroove]

Everything that points to a GoDaddy nameserver (Afternic, DAN, Uniregistry, etc) qualifies for the 15% flat commission, regardless of how the sale is made (directly from the lander, via the distribution network, doesn't matter).

The 25% commission is only for domains that are listed on Afternic or DAN but have nameservers pointed to something unrelated to GoDaddy.

So how do they know where it's pointed? For example, if one points nameservers to Sedo and it sells there... how would GD take 25%? I just transfer my name manually after Sedo gets the money in escrow. Same goes for other sites where I use Escrow.com for payment. I'm unclear when this 25% scenario comes into play. Can you give an example or two?

 

[Acroplex]

Hmmm. Yesterday, when this Dan thing was announced, I logged into my Afternic account and changed ALL prices (on ALL names) to "Make Offer" (without showing any price). Today, Afternic sent me price requests for 2 different names. The emails say: "Price Requested on your AfternicDLS Domain" and "we require that every domain have a Floor Price and Buy Now Price within 48 hours of receiving a sales lead."

I'm confused. If I set the names as "Make an Offer", why would I have to submit a price? Shouldn't the buyer have to submit an offer?

Also, would it be different if I enabled Afternic's Distribution Network from within my Dan.com account, instead of going directly through Afternic? Or would it be exactly the same?

Because this is the type of bullshit Afternic/GoDaddy does. They did the same with the slap-job integration of the Uni Market and the predatory involvement of GoDaddy brokers (outside of Uni).

Regarding your question about Escrow.com, they are now BY FAR the best choice to deal both with fixed sales and for LTO sales.

Afternic thrives on those that don't want to negotiate and expect to see a check in their balance (minus the hefty commission fees) with zero effort.

 

[Acroplex]

So how do they know where it's pointed? For example, if one points nameservers to Sedo and it sells there... how would GD take 25%? I just transfer my name manually after Sedo gets the money in escrow. Same goes for other sites where I use Escrow.com for payment. I'm unclear when this 25% scenario comes into play. Can you give an example or two?

When the sale occurs e.g. at Afternic, the transaction records the domain's DNS. And the only reason they fine you with a 25% tax if it isn't a GoDaddy brand's DNS at the time of sale, isn't just for fun: it's to punish you and the alternate platforms you use, for not surrendering your traffic data to them. Maybe in the future they will also add a 25% tax if the domain isn't registered at GoDaddy.com. They have gone unhinged.

 

[411domains]

I completely understand, and it's a question that has been asked to me several times. However, that set up will be on the 25% rate.


Thanks for the question - the flat rate fee structure does replace the tiered system.

Edit: I just now received the "Commission Model" emails from Afternic & Godaddy auctions.

It would've been nice to have this yesterday!

 

[Acroplex]

What about purchase path sales?

For example:

If gdaftcommission.com is parked with Afternic and the buyer closes through Godaddy or one of the partner network registrars, will the commission be 15%?

Yes. That's the only "drop" they can claim in this price jacking "alignment," from 20% to 15%.

 

[NameGroove]

When the sale occurs e.g. at Afternic, the transaction records the domain's DNS. And the only reason they fine you with a 25% tax if it isn't a GoDaddy brand's DNS at the time of sale, isn't just for fun: it's to punish you and the alternate platforms you use, for not surrendering your traffic data to them. Maybe in the future they will also add a 25% tax if the domain isn't registered at GoDaddy.com. They have gone unhinged.

I see you're upset but I'm truly asking a question (and struggling to follow).

example 1: I have a domain held at GD but the nameservers point to Sedo. Sedo says the domain sold (via Sedo MLS). Does GD hit me with an add'l 25% fee? (seems unlikely).
example 2: I have a domain held at GD but the nameservers point to Bodis. I sell via Bodis and use Escrow.com for payment. I transfer the name out of GD (using an auth code or push). Does GD hit me with an add'l 25% fee? (again seems unlikely).

Assuming for both of the above GD does not add 25%... can you explain or provide an example of when they would hit us with a 25% fee?

 

[Acroplex]

Not upset. I'm furious LOL.

1. If the domain is sold at Sedo, GoDaddy has nothing to do with all this. You'd better delete the domain from Afternic.

2. Same case.

You only get hit with 25% when the domain sells on the GoDaddy platforms (Afternic/Dan/Uni) and the DNS is set to ns1.sperry8.com/ns2.sperry8.com because you have your own lander/form for inbound inquiries.

I hope it makes sense.

 

[BrandingGo]

More buzz around Godaddy makes their stocks up. Such threads indication for investors how many real people care about Godaddy services.

 

[rh2000]

They are trying to squeeze everyone else out.

Time for us (domainers) to form our own marketplace. I will bring 2000+ quality domains.

Try Efty.com marketplace. I don't think they charge a commission fee. You pay a monthly fee though.

 

[Younginn]

More buzz around Godaddy makes their stocks up. Such threads indication for investors how many real people care about Godaddy services.

 

[Dane]

Try Efty.com marketplace. I don't think they charge a commission fee. You pay a monthly fee though.

Kind of expensive, though. $432 per year for 50 - 1500 names seems a bit high, doesn't it?

 

[Mister Funsky]

Try Efty.com marketplace. I don't think they charge a commission fee. You pay a monthly fee though.

I really like the efty platform, but the price is too high...I would rather give them a lower fee...say 25% of what they are asking for the 2000 level...and give them a 2% kick per sale.

I know their system is not set up to do the commission but I would be there in a nano second if it were less expensive.

It would behoove them to give a 3 month free run on the 2000 level...one decent sale and I would sign up.

 

[Younginn]

Kind of expensive, though. $432 per year for 50 - 1500 names seems a bit high, doesn't it?

Dan took more than that amount in one commission sale from me so I guess it's relative to what your sales are.

You pay more upfront cost for Efty's so it's not the best option for anyone starting out but the downside of Dan/GD would be higher commission fees when your names do sell.

 

[Dane]

I really like the efty platform, but the price is too high...

I would absolutely sign up if their price was lower. This might be a good opportunity for them.

 

[karmaco]

I really like the efty platform, but the price is too high...I would rather give them a lower fee...say 25% of what they are asking for the 2000 level...and give them a 2% kick per sale.

I know their system is not set up to do the commission but I would be there in a nano second if it were less expensive.

It would behoove them to give a 3 month free run on the 2000 level...one decent sale and I would sign up.

Yeah me too. They quadrupled the price (at least) since I left. If people go there en masse Efty will be the next acquisition

 

[Dane]

Dan took more than that amount in one commission sale from me so I guess it's relative to what your sales are.

True for me as well. But that's a guaranteed sale. Not so with Efty. Tough call.