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Alright alright. Get ready for a chuckle. As I hinted before in other threads. Government's might confiscate domains using country code extensions.

In this case it was .es .

Not going to complain as they said they would give back the domain after this crisis is over (supposedly).

I should have grabbed that $10k offer.

But after I blew off that offer because they tried to scare me that Spanish Gov would take it. I cut all communications. I don't like scare tactics just to get my domain.

I suspect buyer took revenge and notified Spanish Gov and they took action. Or maybe not and Spanish Gov did so anyways.

Marcaria said this domain would be "returned".

What are my rights in regards to this? I guess they can legally do this?

I mean after coronavirus is "over" what point is it to own coronavirus.es?

Also FYI as part of this also COVID19.es and covid-19.es was confiscated "temporarily".

Currently the domain resolves to no where but I'm sure soon it will.

Is this all legal? Will I lose this domain completely?

The wording from Marcaria is that it will be eventually returned after this crisis is over.

Pretty slick. Spanish Gov. I had planned on developing this domain to monetize now nothing.

Wonder what other. Countries will do this?

Are my rights being violated here by a Government? I suspect no but just curious.
 
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On subject ;)

I know it sucks that you missed a payday but I get them. No time in situations like this to negotiate. Anything seized by governments is fair game.

These type of names could be saving people's lives. Look on the bright side, you're attributing to saving lives!

Stay safe people!

No doubt. I think they took it because they could rather than pay. We're talking about a government not a budget conscious corp.

I hope I don't start hearing "you should just let the poor Spain Government have it out of the kindness of your heart because they don't have to money to pay your six figure price.

Countries can afford to buy $100 billion dollar jets just for the hell of it.

But would rather take a domain from a domainer who is going to experience like everyone else economic hardship.

I mean if it asked by a charity or info site then I'd probably would have donated it to be used temporarily.

But to not be asked first? Not to give me an opportunity to rise to the occasion and just give it over?

This is why I suspect now that that $10,000 offer was from the Gov rep.

They figured "this guy just wants alot of money."

I wonder. If it can be proven that the Spain Gov had a rep contact me to negotiate for the domain but I asked for too much or I just blocked them but they needed these domains immediately so they just took it.

It's like when an inbound comes in and negotiations fail and the inbound decides to use UDRP.

isn't that like a form of reverse hijacking?
 
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I wonder what governing body handles disputes with .es domains.

Does the buck stop always at the registry of the CCtld?

I'm ok with them using it to help people. I'm not a monster. I don't even mind them not paying me at this point.

It's the way it was done. But I wasn't even given the opportunity to "shine" here.

To be able to publicly be shown on some kind of publicity. Similar to.

"GoDaddy buys Coronavirus.com and uses it to get the word out on Coronavirus."

That looks good to boost the rep of a company doesn't it?

I wasn't even given this opportunity. I'm just some a**hole they took coronavirus.es from.

I would have liked something like "WhoaDomain.com loans Spain Gov to use Coronavirus.es to get the word out about coronavirus."
 
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This week we have seen the "unbelievable" happen. This domain situation keeps that theme. Absolutely unbelievable they just took it from you.
 
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I wonder what governing body handles disputes with .es domains.

Does the buck stop always at the registry of the CCtld?

I'm ok with them using it to help people. I'm not a monster. I don't even mind them not paying me at this point.

It's the way it was done. But I wasn't even given the opportunity to "shine" here.

To be able to publicly be shown on some kind of publicity. Similar to.

"GoDaddy buys Coronavirus.com and uses it to get the word out on Coronavirus."

That looks good to boost the rep of a company doesn't it?

I wasn't even given this opportunity. I'm just some a**hole they took coronavirus.es from.

I would have liked something like "WhoaDomain.com loans Spain Gov to use Coronavirus.es to get the word out about coronavirus."

IANA https://icannwiki.org/Country_code_top-level_domain
 
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Governments can go to Hell, as far as I'm concerned. I'm not sure there's one truly democratic government in the world (I have a draft article at MEVoting.com). In my opinion governments are as likely to seize domains to censor truth telling and/or spread propaganda as for any purpose which benefits the population.
 
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Maybe you can ask them for the $10K they offered, and tell them to keep it.

The last thing you want is for this to go viral, and you get labelled Spain's enemy #1.

I have no issue with them using it. It's how they did it. And yes there is there is the money.

Just like with a real estate developer that forgot to register a domain that's an EMD for their property. Or a corp that forgot to register their company name.

Mistakes cost money. I had the foresight to register coronavirus.es before the government of an entire nation. Think about that for a second.

Doesn't say much about whoever was responsible for that.

Again. As I've repeated before. We are not talking about a corporation that has a budget.

Are we to say that the nation of Spain can't afford to buy a six figure domain to help inform and save it's people?

I'm sure such an amount is a drop in the bucket. Meanwhile the entire global economy is tanking everyone's lively hood right now is in jeopardy.

But somehow I'm labeled a d*ck for complaining.

Not registering domains like COVID19.es and covid-19.es and coronavirus.es speaks to the poor management of a gov.

It's almost like this government "forgot" about making plans aka some info website to help it's people. Very poor planning.

Me being hated by a Spain? This is what it is. I'm pretty much 100% sure now that inquiry was a rep for the gov. Negotiations failed because they tried high pressure scare tactics.

I even offered already to work with them and let them use the domain so long as I get ads on there. It was all set. I wasn't going to get any money. I was going to let them use it then last minute they offered $10,000 with a side comment that I should consider it because Spain is in alert mode and will take it.

Again that did not rub me the right way. So I should be happy to take your $10,000 because you say Spain will take it anyway? That right?

After that I told him not to contact me again and that I blocked him.

It is what it is. Spain tried to buy it for cheap because to hell with domainers. And when that failed. Take it.

Simple as that. Many will took issue with my registering Coronavirus domains so naturally they will take Spain's side.

No one will say it's wrong to blindside someone and take their domain and give it back once it's worthless because it was bad to register Coronavirus domains anyway so this domainer got what he deserved.

But please pay attention to one thing regardless of whether this is a pandemic or not this could have been done to ANY OTHER .es domain.

The point is they CAN and they will if it means they save money.

Many ways to think of this.

One way is Spain does not care about domainers in general so much so they will just take .es domains.

You can say this is an isolated incident because of Coronavirus but if you think logically is it really?

I can see Spain borrowing any .es domain to suit it's purpose to avoid paying anything. There is no reasons why Spain couldn't afford to outright buy Coronavirus.es and the others. I mean is Spain broke?

Spain now has an army of drones to help monitor and make sure people are staying home.

How much did that cost? Drones to monitor an entire country? $$$$$

But an exact match web address to help get the word out? Nah we're not paying for that.

Did that drone company donate it's services? What about the ventilator companies providing equipment?

You can say what you want about profiteering from Coronavirus and how bad it is and I will agree 100%.

But nevertheless there will be profiteering. From masks to hand sanitizers etc etc.

You can hate me all you want but if your domain was taken. You'd be complaining to.

Writing this domain off. I don't think expect it returned ever.

I did not have to spill the details of this situation. Could have kept this to myself. But I believe in sharing even if it looks bad for me. Bad people hide in the shadows and keep things to themselves. I choose to put it out there and let the public decide.

A lot of gov's are being heavily criticized for being unprepared during this crisis. It's all just poor management.

Not registering Coronavirus.es in their country code is an example of this unpreparedness. Spain's people should be asking. "Wait so you knew about Coronavirus but did not register Coronavirus.es as an info site for Spain? Instead some Fat Filipino in Jersey registered it? And you tried to buy it but could only afford $10,000 so instead you confiscated it for free?

Given the economic issues in Spain due to the gov mismanagement. I hear Spanish people really don't like or trust their Gov.

So I think they can appreciate what I tried to do with Coronavirus.es

Don't make this out to be that I'm a d*ck.
An entire country's gov FORGOT to register Coronavirus.es. Mistakes cost money or at least they should. Unless of course if you control the registry. In which case do what you want take what you want.

I'm done with this. It's whatever. Hope it helps the people of Spain get info and they get thru this.

I wasn't even given the opportunity to shine here and hand it over to them in a grand gesture at least for publicity. Nope. Just took it. Excuse or reason ? Coronavirus.

Not even a formal request like "may we borrow this domain to help get the word out?"

They did not even bother to wait to hear my answer. I would have said yes. Shoot ..if the government of Spain wants to borrow my domain?

Who would say no to that?

I'm really starting to believe that $10k offer was a Gov Rep because they just up and took the domain meaning they "already talked to me about it" and it did not end well.

In my defense that $10k offer I could not have known they were Spain Gov. How could I? He could have just been a domainer trying to buy coronavirus.es for $10k for quick flip.

Had I known it was Spain? Probably would have accepted the $10,000 or just let them borrow it for free.

My problem with all this is that the OPTION was taken from me. I was not allowed to do the noble thing. Instead what I got was a form of stealth mode buying by the Spain Gov. To try to get it for cheap. They did not want this domainer to find out that Spain Gov wants this domain. Fearing he might ask for $1 million.

I don't know what's worse. A domainer who regs coronavirus.es or a Gov that uses stealth mode to buy a domain for cheap by hiding who they are.
A domain they FORGOT to register.

If they are pissed they couldn't buy it for $10,000 perhaps they should have just contacted me "as themselves" none of this stealth mode crap.

Soon as you go "stealth mode" you are already doing something shady.

Hiding who you are so you can get the best deal for a steal when you have the resources of an entire country? Not noble at all.

Meanwhile they are a COUNTRY. meaning they have way more money than Amazon or Tesla.

I can't anymore. Just giving me upset stomach. The more I talk about this just gets me pissed.

Goodnight NP!





I wonder what's next of my domains get confiscated.

To be continued....
 
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the no 1 reason stay away from cctlds...
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Surprisingly coronavirus .com.es is available on GoDaddy auction. .com.es is out of emergency :xf.smile: it appears.
 
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Without digging in the terms, i think the spanish government is covered in seizing domains for public interest. I think the idea behind it is to make a website to educate people and handle this crisis.
 
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You might want to get compensated for your domain, since after all, it wont be the trend when its over.
 
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the no 1 reason stay away from cctlds...
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Can happen with gTLDs too. There were some cases where .COM domain names were seized/made inactive because the registrant was dealing with Cuba. This was when there was a ban on US commercial activity with Cuba. There are also discussions about domain names in gTLDs being deactivated within a business day if they are involved in malware or other iffy activity. With most TLDs, the registry can act quickly to deactivate or seize a domain name. It is often written into the contracts governing the administration of the TLD and also, with ccTLDs, into the legislation governing the ccTLD.

Regards...jmcc
 
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ok guys. I know I look like an opportunist from my complaining and unsympathetic. and every other label you want to put on me.

Let me give you all a reality check here. who will take sympathy for me actually forget me.I don't really care about what happens tome. what of my family? my family in these times?

I'm lucky that I am a full time domainer and not like most who are losing their jobs right now with no help from the gov and no help from jobs. But that does not mean I am out of harms way as far as financially because I do everything myself and every day as far as sales is not guaranteed.

I do believe this crisis will last a very long time.

I also believe it will dry out the well of domain purchases.

Also there seems to be this odd idea that I am taking away the benefit of this domain from the people of Spain.

As if I were asking the people of Spain to give me $200,000 for coronavirus.es out of their own pocket.

But let's forget about all that talk about money making at this point because that's NOT what this is all about.

Yea sure I wish I would have gotten some money for it for me to help support my family to make sure me and they aren't on the streets when this economy gets worse.

People on here seems to assume I'm some rich guy or perhaps someone who will survive in this crisis and I am not in the same boat as everyone else.

Is it wrong to want to have enough money in the bank during this crisis? so that your family won't have to worry? That money would have helped make sure if this crisis were to last 3 months or 6 months or 12 months or 10 years that my family would not have to worry much.

no one really knows.

You guys want to label me as some guy who wants to profit from the misery of others because of the keyword "coronavirus" in my domain.

So let's talk then about "unsavory domains" that people register to sell or develop.

1. R*pe 3,139 domain names
2. Ch*ld Abuse 350 domain names
3. Molested 37 domain names
4. Cancer 25,258 domain names
5. Death 17,985 domain names
6. Asbestos 6,488 domain names
7. accident 15,994 domain names
8. Injury 11,699 domain names
9. Malpractice 1,294 domain names
10. hate 9,782 domain names
11. racism 602 domain names
12. n*zi 3,918 domain names
13. poison 4,606 domain names
14. flu 72,986 domain names
15. Swine flu 211 domain names
16. hiv 19,449 domain names
17. aids 3,718 domain names
18. suicide 3,364 domain names
19. sexual harassment 404 domain names
20. pain 93,639 domain names
21. diabetes 19,728 domain names
22. abuse 2,798 domain names
23. Drug 37,888 domain names
24. heroin 2,728 domain names
25. cocaine 1,653 domain names
26. ebola 6,168 domain names
27. sars 2,175 domain names
28. Murder 4,894 domain names
29. crime 12,476 domain names
30. debt 28,117 domain names Debt causes misery
31. Genocide 437 domain names
32. Leprosy 140 domain names
33. War 184,102 domain names War causes misery
34. Guns 13,773 domain names
35. Virus (short for Coronavirus) 19,779 domain names
36. x** 53,102 domain names
37. Ad*lt 52,269 domain names
38. P*rn 92,000 domain names
39. herpes 2,530 domain names

40. Trump 48,647 domain names
41. Satan 3,854 domain names
42. Smoking 9,542 domain names
43. Vape 32,973 domain names
44. Smoke 31,656 domain names People die from smoking every year. Misery
45. vaping 3,666 domain names
46. slave 4,479 domain names
47. jav 56,017 domain names ( yes I know many can be longer than just JAV but you get it)
48. an*l 47,275 domain names
49. b*sm 6,465 domain names

50. Kill 39,118 domain names
51. Bet 381,149 domain names (gambling causes misery because people get addicted and start to bet beyond their means and go broke and end up homeless or worse.)
52. Casino 71,491 domain names (same as above)
53. Gambling 6,897 domain names (same as above)

54. Coronavirus 7,031 domain names
55. Corona 25,602 domain names
56. Covid 7,794 domain names
57. covid19 3,374 domain names




Many domains are registered with the keywords above. Why? Many of these have caused misery since the dawn of time. yet many of these keywords have been registered in many extensions. why?

you can "say" that many of these are being used to help people.Sure but in the light of day we "all" know what these domains were registered for.

for example. Cancer. Cancer kills and has been killing people for a very very long time. Still is. Do we automatically label the registrant of such domains as some disgusting profiteer? Are they all donated to some organization?

Most of these are owned by lawyers.

Injury
Accident
Asbestos

Lawyer is a respectable profession is it not?

How about diabetes? I have diabetes. many die from this eventually. Lose their eyesight and a leg. Misery.

Ebola.
Suicide
Asbestos Causes cancer. misery
Accidents many accidents end in death. Misery
Injury many injuries are painful and by default cause misery.
Death Death is death. Can't be more misery than death. misery
Guns Guns have killed more people than any Virus ever has or will. Misery
Firearms
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate



Many many keywords. so much misery.

I mean heck. even adult industry is not exempt from this. I know it's sexy but the things women and men are put thru in that industry just because they "need the money". that's misery.

imagine some girl in Thailand who needs money to feed her family or kids giving her body to some fat hairy European man for just $25?

that's misery.

yet. this misery content seems acceptable these days. Everyone looks at this content but never think of the "cost" these "stars" have to pay just so you can get your "jollies"

No one complains about domainers profiting from the sale of such domains. in fact there is a section dedicated to such domains on Namepros.

what makes coronavirus.es any different? because it is the current trending thing that's killing people?

I get it guys. when a thread like this pops up people need to take sides and feel the need to speak out and take the moral high ground or risk being assumed they are "For" the registering of unsavory domains.

it's good for business to throw another domainer under the bus to make yourselves look goods.

Did I register coronavirus.es with the hopes of selling it. Honestly? I don't really know anymore.

Sometimes. when I get the idea to register a domain it's on my mobile when I'm about to go to bed tired and it's about 2-3 am Kinda like right now typing this.

and registering a domain like coronavirus domain was just a quick reg and forget about it.

really isn't as sinister as you guys are protraying it to be.

When I register domains it's usually on impulse. after which I decide what to do with it.

Did I really know know what I was going to do with it? not really. The basic idea is to sell it yes.

but ideas change over time. One minute you reg a domain to sell the next you decide to develop. or even worse. you forget you own it.

but if there's an offer for it. you're glad you have it.

that's it in a nutshell. If you want to label that as sinister be my guest.

it's all about getting it first and then figure out later. in this industry you need to act quick so at least you have options on what to do with it. As opposed to not having the options because someone else got it first.

and based on the fact coronavirus got registered in pretty much all extensions it was a good idea. not that I can make money from it. but because I'm one of a handful of domainers who got to register an EMD before the registries got to it or someone else.

I really did not know what I was going to do with the domains. Thinking now about it.
The registries themselves should have purchased these domains back from me and used them for self promotion.

Also, come to think of it. I haven't even actively marketed any of my coronavirus domains. so why is it automatically assumed my ultimate goal was to make a killing on these domains? I have an efty account. Never got around to even linking these domains to that.

If anyone were to ask me about these domains personally yea sure I'd be happy if I sold this domain for big bucks. who wouldn't during these scary times? would be nice to have that money in the bank while the economy recovers and not have to worry about your family eating and bills paid.

I'll admit. I feel attacked right now because of the opinions of a few.

So let me throw some "logic" into the mix.

anyone who is reading this thread right now and trying to figure out what to side to take based on the few opinions on here.

because of the opinions here I feel singled out as "that one guy who registered a coronavirus domain and is wanting a big pay day"

that's the opinion of a couple and I admit it's damning to my credibility as a domainer

I see there are currently 64 replies to this thread. yea? let's assume all of them are against me. most likely this is true.

most reading this will say "damn! 64 people against this guy? I guess that must be the concensus. So we should take the side of those 64 people because it's so many so they must be right."

ok if this is how you all will "vote" I can respect that.

but here is the thing. READY? are you listening? How many "coronavirus", "covid", "Covid19", "covid-19" domains are registered out there?

Covid - 6,930 domain names
Coronavirus - 6,756

6756+6930= 13,686

My point is simple. Whoever these 13,686 people or registries are. felt compelled to secure these domains. Sure some did so for humanitarianism but let's be real many expect to profit from it.


But forget these 13,686 domains for a minute. Add up all the numbers above for all the "unsavory domains" I listed above. That number? It's going to be in the hundreds of thousands.

That's hundreds of thousands vs. 64.

each one of those are of the "opinion" FOR the registration of unsavory domains like Coronavirus.

These registrants many are probably not on this forum to voice their opinion on registering coronavirus domains. OR because of how I am being witch hunted on here are SCARED to admit they own such domains.

but NEVERTHELESS I count each registration as a an unspoken OPINION that is FOR the registration of coronavirus domains.

64 opinions versus 13,686 silent opinions that we'll never hear from but STILL COUNT because hey. Each one of these "opinions" these registrants PAID FOR. It's literally a PAID OPINION.

So in a way paid opinions carry more weight because it's not an opinion that people did not pay for.

So if you are reading this and wondering about which side to take on this.

Bear in mind the registrants of many of the 13,686 "coronavirus" domains have privacy on their domains for good reason given the replies on this thread. so there is a possibility many who are AGAINST the registration of coronavirus domains may probably own some coronavirus domains. We all know there are shady people among us.

Just like how anyone on the street right now could have the coronavirus. Any domainer right now could have coronavirus domains and WE DON'T KNOW.

In an industry where people shill bid domains? I can see people trash talking registrants of coronavirus domains when in fact they own some themselves but have privacy.

Anyways, I like facts. Fact is there are 64 opinions AGAINST ME and every other domainer registering coronavirus domains are theoretically 13,686 opinions FOR the registering of coronavirus domains many I'm guessing has to be for the purpose of profiteering.

or are we going to be irrational now and say that each one of those or half of those or a quarter of those registered coronavirus domains BUT are against domainers registering coronavirus domains?

That doesn't make sense now does it?

so if you take sides based on a score board.

13,686 kinda blows out 64 or am I doing the math wrong here?

When we create an environment where people can't register certain domains and talk about it, no matter how noble you feel what you are doing may be. it's still as bad as being the registrant of a coronavirus domain. Shaming them to the point that they regret posting it just makes them inclined never to do it again.

How would discussions like this happen again if people's automatic inclination is to shame people wouldn't people fear sharing their unsavory domains?

why am I saying all of this? because to be honest the replies on this thread hurt my feelings. People I have come to admire on here seem to now want to gang up on me on this topic.

Again I repeat. I did not have to post this on NP. perhaps I have diarrhea of the fingers and just type what's in my head at the time. No filter. but at least you all know me like an open book. so like me or hate me warts and all. up to you.

So in summation. I am not going to retract that the Spanish Gov did not buy the domain. Am I ok with the fact that the domain is now going to be used to help the Spanish people? yes of course, I'm not a total d*ck.

So what the hell was the point of this thread? why am I so pissed?

I am pissed for the same reasons any domainer should be pissed.

To have options taken from you.

to have something taken from you without permission. without even a civilized kind request that 100% would have gotten a YES.

not even at "Please allow us the Spain Gov to take or borrow coronavirus.es domain for the time being because of the current crisis."

All the other stuff I said about money is irrelevant because the domain was TAKEN.

You see. I was never asked by the Spanish Government if they could borrow coronavirus.es which means I was never even given the opportunity to ask for say $500,000 for it or more IMPORTANTLY NOT ASK for $500,000 for it. It was I guess just assumed I was going to ask for a lot of money.

So basically THIS is how Spain sees ALL DOMAINERS by default.

again I cannot confirm that that $10,000 offer was from Spain so I have to assume it was not.

This is not about some domainer profiteering from a coronavirus domain.

This is a country (granted in a crisis) deciding on it's own to take a domain removing all doubts if the owner might say no if asked.

I believe EVERYONE needs the opportunity to shine and yes I know there are more pressing matters right now in the world besides me "shining".

but is it really such a huge ASK to give me the opportunity to donate coronavirus.es to the spain gov?

My initial reaction was all over the place and I'm sure I said a lot of things people did not like but let's not get side tracked here.

This whole thing was just not done right. As if I really would have said NO if the Spain Government simply asked me plainly. "may we have or use or borrow coronavirus.es until this crisis is over?"

Another thing. We all register domains in the "hopes" of selling it and making a bucket of money. But at the same time we are realistic. At least I hope most of us are in thinking that many of our domains will never ever sell. So why should I care if Spain Gov doesn't buy Coronavirus.es. I am already in the mind set that none of my domains will sell. That way no expectations no regrets.

Am I pissed they did not buy it? sure but I think I am really more pissed of how they did it. maybe that anger carried over to them not buying it just a smidge and got all jumbled in there. I mean seriously many of you know my collection of domains and are confident I am losing money. So why should I really care if Spain doesn't buy coronavirus.es? I lose money all the time on stupid domain registrations. What's one more "no sale"?

It's about 4 am right now so probably much of what I said on here you should take with a grain of salt because I'm tired and wrote all of this half asleep. so I probably wrote even more stuff to inflame even more people. Plus tons of typos.

Apologies in advance.

And remember. Registering a domain is an Opinion by default.

You registered that domain because you thought it was a good idea and it's an unsavory domain than you are of the opinion that registering such domains is "okay".

And you don't need to publicly go on a forum and publicly announce it or take sides. Your domain registration speaks loud enough. So either there's a few hundred thousand immoral *ssh*les out there or there are simply domain investors out there?


Good night or Good morning.

I don't think people take offence because you registered this domain. Like you pointed out, lots of other registrations in other niches that are not for everyone.

I do think people take offense because of the way and manner you handle yourself in this thread.

Something to think about.
 
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Tthe guy that owns Covid19 dot com may have been threatened as well. He had it Sedo with a minimum offer of over $40,000. I was mad because has a chance to build a blog on it to spread information about the disease and he was wasting it.

I checked a few days back and he has removed it from sedo. Terrible.

I've purchased from the "guy" before on here and he's genuinely not a bad guy. Plus he's in one country right now that prior to Covid was already in a bad situation economically and now I suspect is even worse so I suspect he is or will be in a tight spot in the coming months.

not going to mention his name. At one point he had his whois public. BIG MISTAKE. glad he put privacy on it and kept quiet.

Good for him and sad for him. This is the result of seeing public sentiment for registering coronavirus domains.

does no one see something wrong with this? not the registering of coronavirus domains but the fact that the registrants have to hide in the shadows now like Jews in Nazi Germany? hate to bring up that analogy but it is just as scary these days.

Liberals talk about Freedom this or Freedom that but if you dare take an opinion against the current narrative whatever it is for that month or year, WATCH OUT.
 
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The current narrative is thousands of people dying of the the word this EMD is.

The narrative is how unfair this is to you - the loss of a reg fee.

While Spain, Italy, all Europe - the Middle East, and now the US is under a state of emergency in the midst of a worldwide pandemic.

What does any sale that happened while not under a state if emergency and a worldwide pandemic - resulting in thousands of deaths? What does what anyone else "got" matter to this situation?

You have no possible or reasonable comparison at all. By the way, if you owned a toy company right now - the US war production act (n force now) gives them the right to take your factory and make whatever the Gov. need or wants to make - you have NO CHOICE.


Ok I think it's time we need to calm down. Me and you. I'm heated because of what happened .you are heated because of my comments said in frustration at the time which no doubt is combined with the fact that I am affected by this coronavirus too like everyone else. I haven't hidden the fact that I am panicking like the rest.

so let me extend the olive branch here and apologize if i offended you in any way shape or form. This whole thread is now becoming counterproductive.

What's done is done. Spain took my domain and that's that. Am I happy with it? no?
who cares? beginning of all this with this thread. I really did not know what to say about it. maybe I spoke too soon and did not think before typing. I was confused and upset. so sue me.

bear in mind I'm over here worrying about my 80 yr old mom who is at risk of getting this crap but she still needs supplies and needs to be tended to and I'm her only son. meanwhile supplies or access to supplies is becoming difficult to get and are RIDICULOUSLY EXPENSIVE NOW.

so excuse me please if I lost my mind for complaining about this situation on a public forum.

Spain has the domain. I can't do nothing about it.

I think it's bs that they will return it.
what am I going to do with the domain after they no longer need it? when will they no longer need it?

so doesn't really matter if they return it or not at this point. I've accepted already that I'll never see this domain again.

so if you really want to keep at it take comfort that this domainer got F*cked and have a laugh at my expense.

I have calmed down since posting this thread. probably just needed to vent but I did not know I would be heavily criticized for venting.

And again. I really take no issue about not getting any money for Coronavirus.es.

It's the WAY it was taken. period. let's end this already discussion already and get back to domaining. Apologies all around. I surrender to the masses.
 
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I've purchased from the "guy" before on here and he's genuinely not a bad guy. Plus he's in one country right now that prior to Covid was already in a bad situation economically and now I suspect is even worse so I suspect he is or will be in a tight spot in the coming months.

not going to mention his name. At one point he had his whois public. BIG MISTAKE. glad he put privacy on it and kept quiet.

Good for him and sad for him. This is the result of seeing public sentiment for registering coronavirus domains.

does no one see something wrong with this? not the registering of coronavirus domains but the fact that the registrants have to hide in the shadows now like Jews in Nazi Germany? hate to bring up that analogy but it is just as scary these days.

Liberals talk about Freedom this or Freedom that but if you dare take an opinion against the current narrative whatever it is for that month or year, WATCH OUT.


His best would have been to use it to build information base for the disease because a lot of people were visiting that domain name. That was a technical waste of traffic IMO.
 
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"A nail that sticks out will get hammered."

I've heard that saying so many times. It's basically saying. keep your head down or get beat down. go with the status quo. be afraid when you go left. be afraid when you go right. be afraid when you go up. be afraid when you go down. be afraid that you can't even move for fear of a mistake or two or three.

might as well be dead.

as a kid who got bullied for being fat. never thought of it like that. I always thought.

"why must everyone choose to be a hammer?"


Thanks @Internet.Domains sure won't make any new friends saying what you said. probably lose some maybe.
Fear is just an emotion, it can be controlled....Have no fear my friend....😃
 
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I had no idea it was this bad. Just saw this as I was accessing my yahoo email.

Did the workers in this Spanish nursing home really just leave these people there to fend for themselves?
Someone better go to jail for this.

But I will say this having worked in nursing homes. Many are staffed by low paid foreign overseas works many of whom don't even have the proper working papers or barely. So I can see why many would not give a sh*t. That said. The owner of the nursing home should be help ultimately responsible.

Grim find: Bodies of virus victims in Spanish nursing homes.

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/bodies-ice-rink-spain-sees-120849029.html

That's definitely a grim story. I read it earlier this morning. Total number of confirmed casualties is at 3.434 in Spain. That surpasses the numbers of China.
 
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In Spain under the "alarm state" they can take everything from you, except the house where you live.

Yeah, i didn't thunk about the Gov Laws Of Spain when i posted that. But that is true, and U.S can do that as well - but to a certain extent. they legally have to compensate you in one way or another, even if its as small as your refund.
 
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well if thats true then it wouldn't be just spain would it.. it'd be all of eu i guess...

Not necessarily, every country and state has their own ways of doing things
 
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Yeah, i didn't thunk about the Gov Laws Of Spain when i posted that. But that is true, and U.S can do that as well - but to a certain extent. they legally have to compensate you in one way or another, even if its as small as your refund.

Here not because is only temporay. This kind of "alarm state" can last up to 15 days and then must be renewed by the parliament for 15 more days. In 45 years of Democracy it's only the second time they use this power.

well if thats true then it wouldn't be just spain would it.. it'd be all of eu i guess...

No, just a Spanish law.
 
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Are my rights being violated here by a Government? I suspect no but just curious.

Sad about what happened!

But, through our research, we found that most (*-)coronavirus(-*) domains (and sub-domains) are being used in phishing scams and for inducing panic based malware downloads (and misinformation, cyber attacks, distributing ransomwares). I think they took a reasonable step in confiscating it to prevent abuse in such a sensitive situation.

I believe the government wants to control this domain in such a situation to avoid panic and misinformation. I would say this was quite a reasonable step - a precautionary step.

Cheers!
 
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That's definitely a grim story. I read it earlier this morning. Total number of confirmed casualties is at 3.434 in Spain. That surpasses the numbers of China.

yea. the explanation is that countries like Italy and Spain has thee largest elderly population in the world. I don't know though. I'd have to disagree when you look at India and China the largest countries in the world. You would "think" those two would have the most Elderly right?

There is also another explanation of sorts but it's a bit flimsy.

Basically they said that Italy and Spain have this culture of when they greet they must kiss each other on the cheek or lips even. doesn't have to be lovers. can be just family.

I've had spanish friends kiss me right in the mouth when they greet me. also french and italian. men even. not just women.

I also think China Coronavirus spread quickly because living near NYC and going to Chinatown frequently before. I have come to the conclusion that Chinese people love to SPIT. you know the kind that people cough up a lung to get the mucous from their throats and then spit out it out on the streets? yea. They do that ALOT in Chinatown NYC so I wouldn't put it past them to do it in Mainland China.

You step on that by accident while not paying attention and then go home with THAT on your shoes and track it all around the house?

now you have Covid on your carpet or floors.

but I guess it's not just Chinese. I've seen old Indian men do that around by me in Jersey City by Indian Square.

Like CMON MAN! really????
 
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so potentially if you sold it, and then they'd take it away from buyer.. he may come back to you and say there is a problem cause now he is short 10k AND the domain he bought?

or file a chargeback or something.. so maybe if you sold, it could create you extra problems too.

hmmm didn't think of that. Although the fact that he DID mention about the "alarm" and threw that "fear" on me.

It's understood in writing he "knew" what he was getting himself into. So I highly doubt a chargeback could happen. but hey. stranger things have happened.

This more and more is looking like it was Spain in some shape or form.

I mean why offer me $10K and then threaten me as if to rush me and pressure me to sell mentioning about the state of alarm?

It was as if the threat or fear they threw at me THEY weren't WORRIED about.

get it? They did not WORRY that they might LOSE $10K. they just wanted the domain. period.

Which really brings up the question of WHY???????

Why SPAIN? why go on STEALTH MODE? I don't get it. I really don't. I really don't like stealth mode and I can always tell when an inquiry is on stealth mode. By default I usually just ignore such emails.

I don't get why they did not just contact me direct with no bs and tell me straight up either sell this domain to us at $10K or we're going to take it anyways?

Why the smoke and mirrors? It was unnecessary and if they were really in a rush they wasted time doing so.
 
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This more and more is looking like it was Spain in some shape or form.

So, you don't have a clue if it has been Spanish Gov. or not. Then you say this:
Why SPAIN? why go on STEALTH MODE? I don't get it. I really don't.

So, how do you come to the conclusion that it was Spanish Gov. who tried to buy it from you?

I mean, if it was really the Spanish Gov., you should think about it as a 10k gift, if they were willing to pay for a domain of THEIR OWN EXTENSION.

I mean, are you aware, at this step of the movie, that .es is OWNED BY THE SPANISH GOVERNMENT?

No ICANN, nothing, is the Spanish Government who owns this extension.
And let me tell you something too. I really think that they have been TOO KIND WITH YOU because they have already told you that they just take the domain from you only during the spanish state of alarm.

In normal circumstances, and knowing the strategic value of this domain for the spanish people, I would not give it back to you anywhere soon, at least until the coronavirus is dead for 100 years.
 
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hmmm didn't think of that. Although the fact that he DID mention about the "alarm" and threw that "fear" on me.

Probably to talk down the sales price. Again, I highly doubt it was a Spanish official making that offer.

I find it much more likely that it was someone playing you.
 
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