Chinese LLLL.com bubble!?

[freezer]

Is it a somewhat good estimate that
chinese LLLL.com premiums are at at least $1billion value today?
Unlike Number .coms chinese premium LLLL.com boomed in value in a very short period.
Will they hold their value or is it the biggest BUBBLE ever seen in domains?

Share your thoughts please

 

[moustafa]

4L.coms = domains...Comparing domains to currencies? Can't do that.

I have good sales (many reported) in LLLL.com $x,xxx- $xx,xxx and experience in choosing the names that has potential to sell-so I am very certain that I will continue on the righteous path. It just so happens that quite a portion of my names have received hits from Chinese folks-even some containing vowels like "a". I have many llll.com without vowels too- some of which are "quad premium" by Western domainer standards. Now I did not buy these domains to make "scrap value" sales to Chinese via email or to low-ballers on Godaddy/Sedo/etc, so I am keeping them, or selling them my usual prices. But it is nice to know to that the "scrap value" has increased-and understandably so: Times are changing.

Why should anyone pay $10k upwards for a LLL.com when these were selling for under $5k last year, even under $3k several years ago? Well, if you want to buy them now you will need to fork out $10k+. Is this a bubble? The answer is No. Will you have the opportunity to buy a LLL.com under $5k again? Highly doubt it, only if you are lucky and spot a rare deal, but chances are slim. Even if you do manage to come by some crazy deal, you wouldn't be able to buy multiple names at that price level. In 3-5 years time, it will never be back under $5k- even if you say $10k is bubble prices. In fact, in 3-5 years time, it might not be at $10k minimum anymore.

Now-with "Chinese Premium" LLLL.com (as it is being called)- these are limited: 20^4=160,000. Not all of these are random. Not all are on sale-some are developed. Plenty of them have actual meaning and not just to Chinese. So to say prices are going to fall/ or it's a bubble... think again. Let's say that you have TLLC..com which happens to be a "Chinese premium" just how can the value of this domain be lost with a supposed bubble? The current $550-$600 minimum offers are too low to buy this domain. Now, If you have qxwd- this kind mainly appeal to Chinese-and may be affected (if there is a bubble, which I highly doubt). Seeing how domaining has grown over the years an is still growing, and more people realsing the value of short domains.... the minimum on these are not going to fall. Soon the Chinese will realise their offers are too low/unrealistic for some of these domains that they are targeting because, it might just have meaning/value to people outside of China, and will increase their offers: which we are already seeing.

The number of LLLL on the market is drying up and in the future will be far less, people will hoard them (in fact some have been hoarding for years now), supply will run out... and guess what... prices will be higher.

You want to talk about the future? I'm staring at the moon.

Yes he is confident they are going up. He tried to con me out of cbdo.com for $1000 and nagged me for months about it till I managed to get $4000 out of him. Obviously he thinks it will go for more in the future, as it will or he has already off loaded it to an end user.

He has written a lot about the appreciating value of short domains on his Media Options site.

cheers

Hello Guys,

What do you think about LLLL.Net Premium chinese domains?
What is their value now? and do i have to keep them or they are value less? (Just a reg. fee) ?

 

[discobull]

You don't buy at the peak, you sell.

Yes, but the problem is that the peak can only be definitively identified after a decline from the peak takes place. If there was some easy way for any of us to know that a peak has been reached as it's happening, we'd all be zillionaires.

 

[Optimal Names]

Yes, but the problem is that the peak can only be definitively identified after a decline from the peak takes place. If there was some easy way for any of us to know that a peak has been reached as it's happening, we'd all be zillionaires.

I am starting to think that either a peak or a plateau have been reached.

On http://www.chaomi.cc/ the "four initials COM" category has shown a leveling off at 7170 or thereabout. It was as high as 7800 I believe.

I've been running auctions, myself, and the intensity of the bidding has cooled a bit.

Of course this could be due to other factors, nothing goes in a straight line up (or down). Just look at the stock markets. It could mean that threads like this here and in other places have brought out a ton of investors selling and buying and at some point the market gets tired. Will it continue? Like you said, we'd all be zillionaires if we could time markets.

 

[thebutler]

Hello Guys,

What do you think about LLLL.Net Premium chinese domains?
What is their value now? and do i have to keep them or they are value less? (Just a reg. fee) ?

Somewhere on Namepros there is another thread on this topic.

 

[Dominic Belley]

Prices have stabilized in the last 2-3 days.
It went from 600 to 1000 very quickly, but now it seems it has reached a plateau at 1100-1200.

 

[moustafa]

Somewhere on Namepros there is another thread on this topic.

Can you tell me about the price range? or can you guide me about that thread?

Prices have stabilized in the last 2-3 days.
It went from 600 to 1000 very quickly, but now it seems it has reached a plateau at 1100-1200.

and how is the range for chinese premiums that are also quad premiums?

 

[Optimal Names]

Prices have stabilized in the last 2-3 days.
It went from 600 to 1000 very quickly, but now it seems it has reached a plateau at 1100-1200.

I think so too.

 

[Dominic Belley]

Can you tell me about the price range? or can you guide me about that thread?
and how is the range for chinese premiums that are also quad premiums?

Pretty much the same, just a tad higher 1200-1300.
The latest sales for Quad-Premium are not good examples for price range because they are mostly all Following-Triple-Letter. That's of course a much higher quality.

 

[moustafa]

Pretty much the same, just a tad higher 1200-1300.
The latest sales for Quad-Premium are not good examples for price range because they are mostly all Following-Triple-Letter. That's of course a much higher quality.

Okay thanks.
Any hint about Premium Chinese LLLL.Net? and are they worthy or their value is just the reg. fee?

 

[Dominic Belley]

Okay thanks.
Any hint about Premium Chinese LLLL.Net? and are they worthy or their value is just the reg. fee?

Sorry, I could not answer that question accurately.
I am not really following the 4L.NET market. I've seen some sell between 40 and 60 last week. But is that a good price. I could not say.

 

[moustafa]

Sorry, I could not answer that question accurately.
I am not really following the 4L.NET market. I've seen some sell between 40 and 60 last week. But is that a good price. I could not say.

Okay thank you very much for your answer.
I hope someone into the 4L.net would answer.

 

[J9]

I am not into 4L .net but I could say that it's great time to sell of Chinese Premium 4L .net now, if you bought it earlier when it was cheap. I think there is another bubble in CP 4L .net. So it's better to sell them now before the bubble bursts IMO.

 

[Optimal Names]

QUOTE="moustafa, post: 5029110, member: 167027"]Okay thank you very much for your answer.
I hope someone into the 4L.net would answer.[/QUOTE]

I am sure they do answer 4L. net bit not here. Lets not get off-topic.

4L .net is another animal and it has a thread here somewhere I am sure.

 

[thebutler]

Okay thank you very much for your answer.
I hope someone into the 4L.net would answer.

For LLLL.net Chinese domains read all 20 pages of this thread (its the one I mentioned) https://www.namepros.com/threads/all-chinese-premium-llll-net-were-registered.871718/

For LLLL.com and the bubble I think its really hard to determine. The spike in prices over the past three-four months is beyond what many people would have expected (myself included). I'm hedging my bets by selling a few and keeping most of my other ones.

It would be interesting to see where the recent sales end up once the WHOIS changes. Are the domains moving and than being flipped again? Someone buying here and flipping to connections/buyers in China? If thats the pattern, once the flipping stops thats your peak pricing.

 

[gladdy]

Remaining 199 CP LLLL.com's priced under $2000 LINK

 

[teper]

I was about to ask this question but found this thread. Recently I am also getting offers for all my llll.com's

And in Godaddy expired auction even the llll.com with worst letter combination are going for high xxx$.

 

[Optimal Names]

I was about to ask this question but found this thread. Recently I am also getting offers for all my llll.com's

And in Godaddy expired auction even the llll.com with worst letter combination are going for high xxx$.

Same. Getting 2-3 offers per day on mine.

 

[krx]

Remaining 199 CP LLLL.com's priced under $2000 LINK

Only one under $1200.

 

[thekiller]

I haven't got any inquiries for months for any of my CP LLLL.com. I have got 3.

 

[krx]

I haven't got any inquiries for months for any of my CP LLLL.com. I have got 3.

Have you checked your contact info in whois?