.tv Can you trust a .tv registration?

[SpongyBob]

Hi,

I was interested in developing a site using a .tv domain that's currently available, but one thing that worries me is that I've noticed some .tv domains come at a premium, with some being priced at thousands of dollars per year per registration (the one I'm interested in, doesn't BTW). What worries me though, is that say I register this domain at the regular price, $35 or so, build up a site, get some traffic, then I come along in a year's time and the .tv guys decide my domain is a premium domain and hike the price of renewal.

Anyone know if they can do this/have ever done this, or are you safe from them "premiumizing" a domain if you have already registered it and renew it on time?

I also notice the .tv registrar appears to be owned by Verisign, who I believe don't have the best reputation in the world.

Would you trust a .tv registration?

Thanks

 

[namewaiter]

can't gaurantee it because i'm not verisign, but this will never happen ... the pricing given to you is from the registrar not the registry.

 

[EbookLover]

Never had a problem with any .TVs I own but I don't own very many at all. BUt I doubt the price will jump very far to worry about it.

If, say, godaddy is selling them for $35 today, they aren't going to raise their price significantly within a year and I doubt verisign will either.

 

[RogueWriter]

I haven't seen this spelled out, either. It's one thing to verbally say, "Oh they wouldn't do that." It's something else entirely to see where the actual company gives a specific limitation on annual fee increases.

 

[SpongyBob]

Never had a problem with any .TVs I own but I don't own very many at all. BUt I doubt the price will jump very far to worry about it.

If, say, godaddy is selling them for $35 today, they aren't going to raise their price significantly within a year and I doubt verisign will either.

Well I'm not suggesting they'd do a on mass, huge price hike of all .tv domains, as that would be a PR disaster, but they might decide a .tv domain that was already registered to an individual, was actually a "premium" domain, like say, rent.tv ( http://www.tv/en-def-cb986561509d/cgi-bin/multilookup.cgi?tv=1&domain=RENT.TV - rent.tv isn't registered, of course, but I'm just giving an example of one of .tvs premium names) and hike the price for that particular domain, leaving the individual in a fix - if .tv were allowed to do it.

 

[Badger]

This is a question of which i ve asked myself and also researched (all to no avail)...

I think the root of this comes down to "how do domains enter the registry and what is the relationship between root registry and the registrars?"

i think the registar who places the domain in the root registry is the sole decider upon prices.. If Godaddy are an approved registrar for the .TV namespace then they are your registrar, not Verisign..

Obviously prices (on all domains) will have to go up at some point but if a registrar suddenly started making arbitrary decisions upon which domains revert to a premium price and which do not, then i think they would be risking their legal position and reputation...

j/m $0.02 worth

 

[namegame]

I owned a large portfolio of prime single word .tv names early on which I believe I paid approximately $50 each. After owning them for a couple years they changed their pricing to $x,xxx for most of them. I have no idea what their future intentions are, but if the past is any guide then I'd be wary.

 

[Badger]

I owned a large portfolio of prime single word .tv names early on which I believe I paid approximately $50 each. After owning them for a couple years they changed their pricing to $x,xxx for most of them. I have no idea what their future intentions are, but if the past is any guide then I'd be wary.

jeez... Really...??

What names did you have??

Were they owned pre-verisign??

Did verisign put the price hike on them or was it the tuvalu .tv registry?

Im intrigued, tell me more....

 

[namewaiter]

I owned a large portfolio of prime single word .tv names early on which I believe I paid approximately $50 each. After owning them for a couple years they changed their pricing to $x,xxx for most of them. I have no idea what their future intentions are, but if the past is any guide then I'd be wary.

yea i'd like to hear about this as well!

 

[Dannoth]

Unless you own a TV channel, there is not much point in buying one!

 

[Badger]

Unless you own a TV channel, there is not much point in buying one!

Congrats Bobba on winning the "most off topic thread" award...

What the heck you on about man..?

 

[equity78]

I don't own a tv channel I will have to tell Fabulous to keep the $200 Bucks a month SIX.tv makes and I sold LCD.tv for $4200 damn Idon't own a tv channel Badger lend me some $$$from the three word.tv you sold for x,xxxx

 

[namegame]

jeez... Really...??

What names did you have??

Were they owned pre-verisign??

Did verisign put the price hike on them or was it the tuvalu .tv registry?

Im intrigued, tell me more....

The names were bought from .tv directly prior to verisign. I can't remember if the price hikes came pre or post-Verisign. But for names like gambling, casino, casinos, movies, sex, entertainment, fashions, stocks, etc. I was paying about $50 - 100 each with some discounts and free registrations because I was registering so many names. Eventually, the prices were raised on many of the names to about $5,000.

 

[namewaiter]

you use to own sex.tv, gambling.tv, casino.tv, etc. etc.?

 

[RogueWriter]

The names were bought from .tv directly prior to verisign. I can't remember if the price hikes came pre or post-Verisign. But for names like gambling, casino, casinos, movies, sex, entertainment, fashions, stocks, etc. I was paying about $50 - 100 each with some discounts and free registrations because I was registering so many names. Eventually, the prices were raised on many of the names to about $5,000.

That's TERRIBLE.

 

[Badger]

jeez, i would have challenged this in court with the last penny i owned...

Either that or paid it....

ИМХО

 

[fonzie_007]

jeez, i would have challenged this in court with the last penny i owned...

I agree. Those domains would have been worth fighting over in court... You probably would have at least gotten a settlement from TV Corp even if you didn't want to go to court.

EDIT: You may want to check the statute of limitations on this one. In other words, you still might be able to bring suit.

 

[namegame]

I agree. Those domains would have been worth fighting over in court... You probably would have at least gotten a settlement from TV Corp even if you didn't want to go to court.

EDIT: You may want to check the statute of limitations on this one. In other words, you still might be able to bring suit.

I'll have to give that some thought. Thanks.

 

[eyedomainous]

I owned a large portfolio of prime single word .tv names early on which I believe I paid approximately $50 each. After owning them for a couple years they changed their pricing to $x,xxx for most of them. I have no idea what their future intentions are, but if the past is any guide then I'd be wary.

I have often wondered when an online spawn of Eminent Domain would reach-out and snatch property from a netizen, and/or netizens... for private *development* "in the public good" excuses.

Verisign, inc. once they bought the rights to the .TV domain extension, from the island nation of Tuvalo, may in fact act be able to act like "the goverment" when it comes to seizing the private property of its .tv .cc netizens. I would imagine the same is true for other country codes, as well as top level domains in general.

However, the issues of Due Process and Compensation are standard (birth) rights in democratic free market societies. Yes, one has the freedom to walk away and not exercise their rights.... but WHY would you, or anyone, want to do that??

 

[woeger]

You can easily solve this problem of the fear of rate increases with prepayment of 10 years registration (the max I believe one can do currently). I do that on most of my prime .tv names to ensure against any rate hikes at the registry or registrar level for 10 years. Also www.tv give you price breaks for 9/10 year registrations usually and you can save (depending on their current sales/offers) up to 40% off the total 10 year reg. fee. This works with both premium and $50 .tv names.

Just a suggestion, unless you plan to flip/sell the names soon. You can always pad the prepaid reg fee on to a selling price if you decide to sell a .tv name as it adds value.