status-monitor Buy Requests

[Haroon Basha]

Hello,
This thread is related to Buy Requests posts.
How many of you are taking it easy for the Buyer's rigid conditions, arrogance in tone and a threat for not complying to his excessive demands? Some buyers wrote their buy requisite as if the sellers are beggars. My blood boils when I read their dictatorial attitude in their buy requests. How many of you take it lightly it is okay if the buyer says, I will not respond if I am not interested. Why do they think that the Sellers are so cheap and they are like aristocrats? How many of you agree that it is buyers prerogative to ask a 4 letter dot com name for $ 50?
Please share your views here and ultimately, NamePros should tone down Buy Request contents a tolerable one and not make the readers/sellers sick.

 

[bmugford]

The main issue is buyer's and seller's both have grossly unrealistic expectations.

I have been an active buyer in the past spending tens of thousands of dollars buying domains on NamePros, but whatever budget and guidelines you put you get flooded with unrelated domains, or generally bad domains priced at or near your budget.

I quit posting as it was just a waste of my time. Most people with good domains tend to know what they have, and they are not offloading them on a reseller forum.

NamePros could certainly make some changes to improve the section. It is long overdue really.

Brad

 

[bmugford]

A lot of buyer's have completely BS budgets also.

They will be like $50K budget, when you know in reality they don't have a fraction of that.
Then offer $50 for some great .COM.

It would be nice if there was a different section or something that somehow had more qualified buy and sell offers. Right now the area is a waste of space, and serious buyers and sellers could not be bothered dealing with it.

Brad

 

[bmugford]

Here is an example - https://www.namepros.com/threads/domain-buyer-requests-we-will-need-stronger-antibiotics.1173448/

Explain to me how buy threads like that deserve space on the forum. You should be able to report it, and they are removed with a status like "Your price expectations are too far below market value" or something like that.

I went on to make a thread parodying this lack of action by NamePros, which Raymond talked about here and lead to a long back and forth discussion - https://tldinvestors.com/2020/01/now-namepros-is-really-getting-ridiculous.html

Brad

 

[equity78]

You should reply him, how many 2L.com do you have? I would like to buy all with $10k each.

Well for the most park most start threads saying you contact me with anything but what I am asking and I will report you.

I have asked before what really happens with those reports?

 

[Haroon Basha]

A lot of buyer's also have completely BS budgets also.

They will be like $50K budget, when you know in reality they don't have a fraction of that.
Then offer $50 for some great .COM.

It would be nice if there was a different section or something that somehow had more qualified buy and sell offers. Right now the area is a waste of space, and serious buyers and sellers could not be bothered dealing with it.

Brad

@bmugford I completely agree that NamePros should do something constructive in this regard, to filter genuine buyers from bogus time pass buyers. Some Buy Request make no sense at all. Unless the @Mod Team Bravo Moderators clean up this section, the genuine sellers will lose genuine buyers.

 

[BRANDERX]

That section of the forum is like window shopping.

Simple solution, don't offer your names.

imo

 

[Compassion]

NamePros should consider the suggestion of FORCING THE BUYERS TO REPLY TO THE SELLERS'S SUBMISSION. Yes if the Seller sent unwanted names or in violation of the Buyer's criteria, the Buyer can report the matter to the Moderator. @Mod Team Bravo

This would never work IMHO and good request threads would be gone.

Hundreds of thousands of privately owned federal reserve funny money debt notes in the form of numbers on a screen already change hands each year for one of a kind domain names because of the section - as-is.


I try to respond to a lot of requests, but never reply to all of them.

Time is the one priceless and most valuable asset we all have in common. There is no replacement for our time.

It's already a grueling process to deal with the wanted threads as a buyer as-is and forcing buyers to respond would shove away legit threads and potential transactions.

On a positive note.....there are a lot of good buys happening because of request threads, I've made a few in recent weeks that only happened because of wanted threads.

I very very rarely report messages that are not what I requested.., but it has happened a handful of times when it so obviously awful and unmatched to what I request like random .in names with letters and numbers when I'm requesting LLLL.com


And I confirm and agree with the sentiment that there are too many threads that are too rigid and too unrealistic.

Who wants to send names to a buyer who posts something crazy like "I'll report you if your message doesn't fit my exact criteria!" and the criteria is a GD Appraisal Range, combined with number of TLDs registered, combined with age requirements, combined with pricing caps, combined with niche specifics....
while compiling this with the emphasis that they are a reseller and to not be expected anything but a low % of such requested GD appraisal and if they're asking price is higher than said % of GD value that warrants a report too!! SMH

Most people with good domains tend to know what they have, and they are not offloading them on a reseller forum.

NamePros could certainly make some changes to improve the section. It is long overdue really.

Brad

I imagine it has been discussed, but perhaps as an industry we would stand stronger and taller if we abolished the term "reseller" !!???

That term does not shine the greatest light on venues such as this one or on our industry as a whole.




Are car sale lots called "resellers?"

-I've never seen an ad from a car buyer saying they are a reseller, have you?.

Are housing investment companies called "resellers?"

-I've never seen an ad for a property buyer calling themselves resellers, have you?


Are sellers with wholesale accounts selling food products called "resellers?"

I've never seen a company or individual selling products such as food calling themselves resellers, have you?


Are precious metals companies called "resellers?"

I've never seen a company heavy in this business call themselves "resellers"....
Yes - Plenty of signs saying "We buy gold" or "Sell your gold here" etc....
But never a sign saying "We are gold resellers, come on in for offers 50% below spot prices"


Is there another industry where the most common term to describe transactions on a wholesale/industry level is "resellers" besides our industry?

 

[lovely4ever]

Hello,
This thread is related to Buy Requests posts.
How many of you are taking it easy for the Buyer's rigid conditions, arrogance in tone and a threat for not complying to his excessive demands? Some buyers wrote their buy requisite as if the sellers are beggars. My blood boils when I read their dictatorial attitude in their buy requests. How many of you take it lightly it is okay if the buyer says, I will not respond if I am not interested. Why do they think that the Sellers are so cheap and they are like aristocrats? How many of you agree that it is buyers prerogative to ask a 4 letter dot com name for $ 50?
Please share your views here and ultimately, NamePros should tone down Buy Request contents a tolerable one and not make the readers/sellers sick.

After my experience with buyers request section i consider 70% of them are not enough serious and want to suck the blood out of the sellers and buying good domains for coins .


.

 

[Bravo Mod Team]

So now will some requests be deemed ridiculous and made to close?

Unrelated to valuations, but "unreasonable" requirements as in unexpected, unusual, unnecessary, etc.

For example, we would not allow "you must include your email address with your offer" and "you must leave me a positive review."

We hope that helps.

 

[equity78]

Unrelated to valuations, but "unreasonable" requirements as in unexpected, unusual, unnecessary, etc.

For example, we would not allow "you must include your email address with your offer" and "you must leave me a positive review."

We hope that helps.

Ok but they call say looking for 2L.com budget $10,000 per name?

 

[Samer]

Well for the most park most start threads saying you contact me with anything but what I am asking and I will report you.

I have asked before what really happens with those reports?

I have yet to “make Request” thread;
but i’ll put if send dont meet condition i’ll report.

How else are you going to deter spam?

With regards to @Haroon Basha;
I dont think i’ll state “if i dont reply; i dont like”
Rude.. but It’s OBVIOUS. LOL!

Biggest problem is mods let market; “play out”

@Mod Team Bravo you need enforce common sense close stupid; 2L for 10K, 3L for 5k — There is zero enforce.
If you knew it wasnt satire; you’d leave up;
“Buying 2L,3L for for $5k and you know it

“Laissez-faire approach”boils blood sometimes
and makes Namepros look like amateur hour..
think bad requests tarnish NP brand..

Samer

 

[Bravo Mod Team]

@Mod Team Bravo you need enforce common sense

Trust us when we say that you do not want us making judgement calls on that; it will create more problems than it will solve. Update: Case in point.

It's always subjective and prone to contentious disagreements, which isn't good for anyone.

most start threads saying you contact me with anything but what I am asking and I will report you.

They are exploiting the "Report to Moderator" option if we question about their ""conditions""

That'd be an unacceptable reason to report if you're solely seeking clarity.

It'd be acceptable to report if you also included a domain name with your question.

We hope that helps.

 

[boker]

Let's try to come up with ways for members to hide those requests.

For example, the community could report when they've had a successful transaction with a member due to the member's request thread, and then sellers could filter requests by "X successful transactions in the last Y days." However, this would be easy to manipulate among groups of friends on NamePros.

Any ideas?

First of all, buyers should be enforced to reply, if the domains sent meet their condition, if the seller can waste their time sending a PM, with all the conditions fulfilled , than for sure the seller can waste their time responding to their PM- everybody is saying that the domains respecting the conditions are just a fraction of the total, so it should not be so hard and this way we can get rid of the one's fishing.
Second, the one's spamming are mostly the same, so give them a warning for each time they spam and send something totally unrelated and for three warnings ban them for a month or something like that, from sending PM and accessing the request domains sections.
Third, there are people who have like 10 request( lot's of new account as well) but they never buy, so clearly it's a fishing expedition, limit them to three or so in a month and ban them from bumping their thread in that month, if they have 3 request, tens or hundreds of replies that meet their conditions but they still didn't bought anything.
For sure we can find a few other rules, to get rid of the time wasters on both sides.

 

[boker]

Time is a priceless asset for all of us - the most valuable one of all. These human suits expire much sooner than a domain with a forever registration.



People are inundated with messages from buyer request threads.

I offer a quick "no thanks" typically if there is zero interest.

In the post as a buyer I mention that no response means no interest, but express gratitude for the inquiry.

It's not good to keep loops of information hanging in limbo without a strict 10101 clear response of binary nature being a yes or no . . . Agreed.

A 'no thanks' or 'not what I'm looking for it's more important than most think...it means that somebody is reading the email, so you are not wasting your time, it means that you are respected, as much as you respect the buyer..so just two words can make a big difference, can bring you more sellers and it can build a bridge for the future...you never know when a seller will have a domain you want, but he stopped replying to inquiries because of no reply in the past.

 

[Bravo Mod Team]

Hello,

There are some excellent ideas in this thread.

We had a few ideas ourselves, and along with your feedback, we should be able to make it a lot better.

The development team is very busy with a few other projects for the forums, but they know this is a priority as soon as they can get to it.

Thanks for all of the feedback!

 

[Bravo Mod Team]

Hello,

The following rule may be helpful:

• Rule 6.1.24. Participatory criteria (e.g., eligibility) and restrictions (e.g., blocked members) on sales listings and auctions must be reasonable (e.g., “bidders must have ten positive Trade Reviews” or “established members only”), must not require unnecessary actions to be performed, and must be nondiscriminatory based on race, gender, personal preferences or opinions, etc. Rule 6.1.13 applies.

Please report or share any specific requirements that seem unreasonable. No need to link to the actual thread.

We can look into them.

 

[DomainBanana]

Hello,
This thread is related to Buy Requests posts.
How many of you are taking it easy for the Buyer's rigid conditions, arrogance in tone and a threat for not complying to his excessive demands? Some buyers wrote their buy requisite as if the sellers are beggars. My blood boils when I read their dictatorial attitude in their buy requests. How many of you take it lightly it is okay if the buyer says, I will not respond if I am not interested. Why do they think that the Sellers are so cheap and they are like aristocrats? How many of you agree that it is buyers prerogative to ask a 4 letter dot com name for $ 50?
Please share your views here and ultimately, NamePros should tone down Buy Request contents a tolerable one and not make the readers/sellers sick.

Haroon,

I have said "I will only respond if interested" in my Requests but usually remember to add "all offers are appreciated."

This is not meant to sound arrogant or dictatorial. It's meant to show gratitude up front and to let sellers know I am not ignoring them but that, due to the volume of submissions, I can only respond if interested.

I see you have also said something similar: "No reply from me within 48 hours, please understand that I am not interested in your names."

Re: "buyers rigid conditions" -- I don't see specifying conditions as arrogance. Setting clear conditions up front helps sellers understand what the buyer is looking for so sellers don't waste time submitting domains that will never be considered.

Re: $50 for 4L -- obviously someone is trying to take advantage of you.

Sellers do something similar when buyers request a 4L and BIN and sellers respond with X J D Q/com BIN $10,000.

Lowballs or ridiculous seller prices are both unhelpful so just ignore them.

Respectfully,
DB

 

[AK85]

I know exactly what you mean. Some have went as far as REPORTING requests that does not meet their criteria. Unfortunately, some people will take advantage of others situations, I am happy that I am not the only one feeling like that.

If you have a 4L.com start an auction, it will definitely sells for more than $50 no question about it! I have stopped sending anything to buyers request as their responses were arrogant as you said, that's at least 7 out of 10, but that's life, try to sell a real estate & if it's worth say a $100k many will offer $50! Unfortunately this is life and you just have to not let it get into you, or sell in a loss.

I wish you all the best my friend and looking forward to see your auctions!

 

[equity78]

Hello,

The following rule may be helpful:

• Rule 6.1.24. Participatory criteria (e.g., eligibility) and restrictions (e.g., blocked members) on sales listings and auctions must be reasonable (e.g., “bidders must have ten positive Trade Reviews” or “established members only”), must not require unnecessary actions to be performed, and must be nondiscriminatory based on race, gender, personal preferences or opinions, etc. Rule 6.1.13 applies.

Please report or share any specific requirements that seem unreasonable. No need to link to the actual thread.

We can look into them.

I would be interested to hear what a report would do? Not too many tropes that get older at Namepros than the complaining about Domains Wanted section.

In the past when people stated people offering $5,000 for LLL.com or sometimes LL.com was allowed. The member has the right to ask whatever they like was the standard line, along with others have the right to ignore.

So now will some requests be deemed ridiculous and made to close? Don't say edit because all someone will do is take advantage of the ridiculous premise Budget $1 to $10,000 send me your names.

When we all know 99% of the people who have ever listed $10,000 per name as their budget was complete fantasy.

 

[wot]

As mentioned on a previous thread, it is an embarassment and would be better if restricted to members only for viewing purposes etc.

 

[Bravo Mod Team]

We are talking here about the empty vessels, who never buy any names and those who places such buy requests only to read our pulse.

Let's try to come up with ways for members to hide those requests.

For example, the community could report when they've had a successful transaction with a member due to the member's request thread, and then sellers could filter requests by "X successful transactions in the last Y days." However, this would be easy to manipulate among groups of friends on NamePros.

Any ideas?

 

[bookname]

Ok but they call say looking for 2L.com budget $10,000 per name?

You should reply him, how many 2L.com do you have? I would like to buy all with $10k each.

 

[Samer]

The main issue is buyer's and seller's both have grossly unrealistic expectations.

I have been an active buyer in the past spending tens of thousands of dollars buying domains NamePros, but whatever budget and guidelines you put you get flooded with unrelated domains, or most bad domains price at our near your budget.

I quit posting as it was just a waste of my time. Most people with good domains tend to know what they have, and they are not offloading them on a reseller forum.

NamePros could certainly make some changes to improve the section. It is long overdue really.

Brad

I dont think the buyer request is past
“Point of no return.”

I personally would tweak it;
“Unrealistic expectations” needs to be reported (if unrealistic enough) Mods have gone full-on;
Laissez-faire. Seems not reportable offense;
Sadly, mostly new accounts; “What can u do?”

risk being uninviting to the Seek 2-3L 5k crowd

 

[bmugford]

I dont think the buyer request is past
“Point of no return.”

I personally would tweak it;
“Unrealistic expectations” needs to be reported (if unrealistic enough) Mods have gone full-on;
Laissez-faire. Seems not reportable offense.

Well, the first step is to actually do something about it. It has needed to be the first step now for years.

Still waiting...

Brad