Budget 8k - Suggest liquid domains

[Anjani]

Domaining is certainly addicting and has the power to consume you 24/7 at least for the first 45 days before the reality dawns on you that maybe it’s akin to spitting into the wind and hoping it to land big on target. No more hand regging, lesson learnt!

Please suggest ideas on how to go about investing 8k. What niche to pick? Average timeline in flipping a liquid domain?

 

[Jurgen Wolf]

This doesn't mean that my domains are since 2008...
I reg them on a daily basis...
Some handregs were sold even within 24 hours (inbound)... most handreg-sales - within 1-2 years.

 

[Silentptnr]

You should consider strongly the level of liquidity you require. Are you looking for a fast flip? Are looking to buy and hold? How much of a return are you looking for?

Domain names have renewal fees beyond the purchase.

You should do some careful analysis. This way you will achieve your desired results.

I hope you will continue this discussion and share more about your goals.

Best of luck.

 

[BuyBrandWeb.com]

I would suggest you to purchasing 4L .com domains.
Acquire western domains including vowels( 4L's are trading from $150 USD to $320 USD). You can easily acquire 20-30 domains with $8k budget (Also make sure that each domain has one or two end users).

One sale will cover your investment.

Average time: Depends on your financial-You can re-sale easily if you want to liquidate!

It's just my opinion and investment strategies are changing time to time!

Praveen

 

[Jurgen Wolf]

Strangely...
No less than 50% of my enduser sales are handregs.

 

[TERADOMAIN]

Hi,

Invest into something which you can understand the least. My opinion is to read various things about how trading is getting done on regular basis by so many friends here.

You can see what got sold recently and some historical sales data here.

https://www.namepros.com/forums/domain-name-sales.314/

Please read.... read....read.... and try to understand what is hot at the moment, what is good for short/medium/long term and take your best decision based on what you are comfortable in.

Thanks

 

[ScalableDomains]

"Wall Street is the only place that people ride to in a Rolls Royce to get advice from those who take the subway."

I am not telling how to do it but ask the right question:

Who has turned $8K into a decent ROI or lost money? Find someone that has done that and than you can ask for advice.




Read more at: https://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/warren_buffett_409213

 

[ScalableDomains]

The impression i get is that it's a random market with few winners and most are groping in the dark just like me The odds and external factors are too many to take a calculated risk.
Salute the degenerate gamblers who hold more than 5000 domains..even to a rookie like me most names sound illogical when i compare them with real world names in crunch base. the only way out is to hold quality names which appeal to the big fish with deep pockets. That's hard for late entrants i guess..

Yes , it is hard buy not impossible. On average you are only going to sell around 10% of your portfolio each year. So, make everyone count. First, you have to accept that you will eventually own crappy names. Everyone does. But in time you will pick up some really good ones. The point is that you have to put your fear aside and jump in. Develop some rules of what makes a good name and have the discipline to stick to the rules. Where people lose it is when the rules are not followed and they buy based on emotion.

Secondly, invest in yourself. Take a course on DNAcademy or others expand your learning.

I had a new member ask for advice, I gave what I know and he made one sale $xxx mid on a hand reg within a week. Not a huge sale but the point is that he invested $15 on a name he chose based on market and sent emails and made phone calls (Phone call?! Yes! Phone Calls!) and made his first sale. No fear. No reservation. "Start small , but think big" is what I told him.

 

[MediaCode]

I posted my thoughts on how to systematically identify good names to buy in another thread. Several folks liked it. Here it is again as a quote since I don't know how to link directly to the post:

Try this exercise to help teach yourself about domain names that sell to large corporations for top dollar:

1. Go to Jamie Zoch's website at DotWeekly dot com

2. Read through every post he has ever written under the "Domain Movers" banner

3. As you read each post, type into a spreadsheet the names of each .com domain name that a large corporation bought for a new business, product name, or other new brand name (i.e., not any domain name that already includes their existing brand name in the domain name like Amazon does a lot of -- those are simply 'brand protection' registrations to protect their trademarks, which you want to avoid like the plague)

4. Read through your long list of domain names you typed into your spreadsheet and start to cust and paste them into categories, like LL.com, LLL.com, One Word .com, Two Word .com, Three Word .com, Made Up Word .com, etc.

5. Identify the patterns of the kinds of .com domain names that large corporations buy, as reported by DotWeekly

6. Once you see the patterns, start to watch drop auctions at GoDaddy.com, NameJet.com, SnapNames.com, and DropCatch.com BUT RESIST THE TEMPTATION TO BUY ANY DOMAIN NAMES FOR 30 DAYS; only watch, do not buy for a full 30 days; make sure the auctions are drop auctions, not some other domainer just listing his or her domain names with reserve prices

7. Start to notice how much the domain names with the patterns you identified sell for at the drop auctions; these are the wholesale prices those kinds of patterns go for

8. Determine if you can afford to pay those kinds of wholesale prices, or not

9. If you cannot, it might be best for you to exit domain name investing – the best names are typically on the drop auctions; the best names get bid up to healthy wholesale prices; you need the best names with the right patterns to one day ultimately sell for a retail price to an end user that is a large corporation with deep pockets and a general indifference to paying upwards of $XX,XXX to $XXX,XXX for a .com domain name; if you cannot afford to play the game, it may be best for you financially to not enter the game at all; or, find a different, lower cost strategy within domain investment (e.g., picking up $9 bargain names and flipping them for $250 to $350 a piece, a la Josh Eisenhower at DSAD.com)

10. If you can afford to pay those kinds of wholesale prices, welcome to the game!

Lastly, remember that there are a little less than 150,000,000 or so .com domain names in existence. Keep in mind that less than 1% are .com domain names that a large corporation would ever want to buy from anyone else to use in their businesses. That means only 1,500,000 .com domain names are "investment grade" domain names. That's a relatively small amount. All the rest are .com domain names that are simply not marketable to large corporations, no matter how much the domainers who own them believe otherwise. You want to ignore those 99% domain names and resist the temptation to register them or bid on them at auctions (don't worry, we all fail or have failed at the resistance). If you follow all of the above instructions and understand what you uncover from having done the exercise, you'll be in a much better place as a domain investor. Possibly a lot richer to boot.

 

[frank-germany]

Strangely...
No less than 50% of my enduser sales are handregs.

mine too

 

[LucidDomains]

as you did , right?

Sorry what?

My advice above is based off my own experience. Generally speaking it takes about a year or so of decent hands-on experience for someone to get to a point where they can make good profit. This is a blanket statement for any market not just domaining.

Just my opinion.

 

[Anjani]

Thank You! i have watched 4L sales keenly and believe that the overall sales are few or low $ xxx specially for the random letters with no meaning and believe many are holding on to them for years with little hope. i rather like ebike which sold for 75k.
The future i believe is in VR, AR, Blockchain or Digital but the number of players right now are limited and haven't got a hang of the right names to hold..I see most have names like augment and i already have Augment XD, Augment HD, VRJock, ARIndirect and Yah Digital.
For the right names i can be patient for 3-5 yrs..Renewals not an issue for a 8-10k portfolio.

 

[Anjani]

This doesn't mean that my domains are since 2008...
I reg them on a daily basis...
Some handregs were sold even within 24 hours (inbound)... most handreg-sales - within 1-2 years.

Thank You! Maybe you know the pulse as you have been around for a decade...will study more to hopefully learn

 

[Jurgen Wolf]

Regarding $8K...
The easiest variant which doesn't require knowledge, experience and full time domaining - to buy/sell cryptocurrencies...
Overall, you will get ~ the same ROI or even significantly higher...
This is actual pulse. The best times for domaining are already in the past.

+ buy domains with quality traffic...
And you may live just from their monetization...

 

[slader23]

Until you fully understand what constitutes a good domain. I'd be wary of spending too much on domains because risk of failure is greatly increased when you lack experience. A "good" domain can be described in so many different ways and relates to a number of different characteristics which will only become more obvious over time.

For now hold onto your cash and read absolutely everything you can get your hands about recent sales, strategies and trends....and if you do buy something with that $8k make sure it's in .com and has at least 10 TLDS taken.

 

[Constantin S]

Personally I prefer to invest in domains that I consider would be on demand in close future (3-5 years), that is why back in 2015-2016 I invested in VR and AR domains, it remains to see if my choice was a good one but I definetly think it was. I also wanted to buy crypto and blockchain domains but I didn't have money at the time so I missed the train.
Personally I find it pretty tough to find good domains at this moment, especially if you are only hand-registering.

 

[BrandPlease]

The only possible hope is that of an end user sale which is stacked against odds with so much of supply

That is actually the only reason this is a business in the end. AND, you will get that exact same answer from any sales person, in any industry, selling any product - and is struggling with the sales process and sales fundamentals.

Dont ever let yourself - talk yourself - into a loop of self doubt and inaction. It snowballs fast. Reach out to end users and the positive interactions will fuel you positive mojo and it changes everything.

 

[Anjani]

Honestly, 8k is not enough to invest in Domain Industry. Especially in the sky-rocket period like this year.

Iam sure there are many who started with way less and built impressive portfolio's in time. I have a lot more to learn before putting serious amounts of money to work. Thank You!

 

[TERADOMAIN]

Thank You! i have watched 4L sales keenly and believe that the overall sales are few or low $ xxx specially for the random letters with no meaning and believe many are holding on to them for years with little hope. i rather like ebike which sold for 75k.
The future i believe is in VR, AR, Blockchain or Digital but the number of players are limited and haven't got a hang of the right names to hold..
For the right names i can be patient for 3-5 yrs..Renewals not an issue for a 8-10k portfolio.

Very good start. Keep reading and you will understand more what is going on currently.

Thanks

 

[wwwweb]

Thank You! i have watched 4L sales keenly and believe that the overall sales are few or low $ xxx specially for the random letters with no meaning and believe many are holding on to them for years with little hope. i rather like ebike which sold for 75k.
The future i believe is in VR, AR, Blockchain or Digital but the number of players right now are limited and haven't got a hang of the right names to hold..I see most have names like augment and i already have Augment XD, Augment HD, VRJock, ARIndirect and Yah Digital.
For the right names i can be patient for 3-5 yrs..Renewals not an issue for a 8-10k portfolio.

You seem to know what your doing. Doesn’t look like you need any advice.

 

[Anjani]

You seem to know what your doing. Doesn’t look like you need any advice.

Kind of you to say that...still a rookie in this space..lots to learn.

 

[LucidDomains]

Don't buy anything for the first year would be my advice for anyone approaching any market.

 

[Recons.Com]

You are not looking for advice.

You are looking for the validation of what you think you already know and understand.

It seems your way is through making your own hard mistakes and even then you will blame something else for undesirable outcome.

 

[Recons.Com]

Not really! I am willing to take advice and also learn from my own mistakes and fortunately domaining is not my bread and butter and can afford to lose without blaming anyone. It's more of a hobby right now to swim against the odds..Thank you all for your time and inputs!

What you are registering currently is probably going to remain worthless for many years if not ever.

I just have a feel that you are at a wrong trajectory but are so sure you know it all.

Sorry for harsh words. I just wish someone told me those when I was starting, but I did not even ask ))

 

[BRANDERX]

Just invest wisely. Don't make everything public.

Good Luck

 

[Recons.Com]

Let's see how things play out...No Big Deal...Good luck to you!

That is the thing though. You have to treat it as a big deal to be successful. And you have to make it to work on its own merit.

Not like I will plunge my other income into this and see how it plays out. It will play out the way it works in a casino and even there you probably have a better bet.

One quick advice, join Brandpa when they re-open registrations. Add your names there. They are nice to provide feedback on their rejections and even though I don't agree with them often (and I yesterday sold a Brandbucket reject at Brandroot), I still learn from them and on some names I do agree and wonder what I was thinking when I registered those.