BrandBucket Experience

[xtremex]

hello

I am new to BrandBucket. Before getting my hands on this

I wish to experience about brandbucket from my fellow members


Thanks

 

[JimJammy]

Mr. Krell doesn't answer here anymore about these things sir?

No. He and Margot are active in the BrandBucket Slack channel.

 

[creataweb]

No. He and Margot are active in the BrandBucket Slack channel.

Ok sir.

 

[BlueprintMedia]

Following up on my post above , I decided to check the second page of the results :

2 under privacy
3 owned by Ambassadors.
1 Margot
1 is mine

Krell

1. SchemeUp
2. ElevateUp
3. FuseUp
4. AdjustUp
5. UpBonus
6. Upclix
7. Hoverup
8. UpCruise
9. SuitsUp
10. UpBloom
11. CoachedUp
12. StorageUp
13. UpModern
14. UpHandle
15. UpAvenue
16. FiberUp
17. AccountUp
18. UpCapsule
19. Uplandia
20. UpHabit
21. UpSavvy
22. UpVis
23. UpFader
24. Uptimus
25. UpVos
26. UpBunny

So for the second page, of 48 names, Mr.Krell owns 26 names , I own 1 name, Margot owns 1 , and the Ambassadors own 3 so the house owns 26+1+3 = 30 names of 48 displayed.

When you own 43 names of the first 2 pages of a 96 names, you bound to expect sales and top them too, specially when a marketplace has 44K+ names.

I created a post a few weeks back regarding these same issues.
One of the issue was CONFLICT OF INTEREST in which I wrote, " with their own Staff members selling their own domains on the website, how do we know their own domains are not being rotated to the front of the line?
Correct! Is not fair. You are stupid if you think they are not doing it ".

We domainers understand and KNOW this is happening. When we spoke out about such issues on this very same thread, all of a sudden we were called whiners by a few BrandBucket suck ups such as @JimJammy.
Let me tell you about BrandBucket, they know that domainers are pulling their best domains off their website. Hence, the reason why they are implementing rules to "TRY" stopping those same domainers from removing domains off the BrandBucket marketplace.
Those same rules that they "THINK" will help them, is actually going to hurt them in the near future.
A,B,C,D,F? Sorry you got an F, you can't add domains. Really? Such silliness!

We are domainers, we are not here to be faithful to a company that "WE" domainers help make money.
They want to prevent me from adding domain names? Cool bro!

Why is there no feature in the user control panel letting us (the sellers) know how many views a domain is getting per day or per month. Any analytics would be a great feature to implement. But nope, they spent money on a grading system to hurt domainers from adding domain names.

Why is there no rotation feature? Why are domain names being buried? NO WAY SIR, they can not have that kind of feature in place because then they wont be able to sell their own domains.

Let me give you an example: A domainer friend of mine contacted Julia asking her to please have a domain removed from the BrandBucket Market Place Listings. To his credit, he actually was doing it the correct way. He was giving them the 30 day notice as it states in their TOS rules. Julia removed the domain name the next day and he got a bad score. Now, he can not receive any new domains into his account until his score goes back up. Why was he punished for actually following the rules?
Oh, I know, He was punished for removing his domain names.

The correct word here to describe BrandBucket is GREED. They do not take the time to listen to their sellers opinions. They are capitalizing on all that traffic that is being sent to them from all of the 40,000 plus domain names that are forwarded to their website.

True domainers don't sit around and wait for BrandBucket to sell their domain names.
True domainers make calls, send emails, track those emails and go search for endusers.
Keep depending on BrandBucket to sell your domains and your domaining career will be short lived!

 

[Abdillahi Abdillahi]

Following up on my post above , I decided to check the second page of the results :

2 under privacy
3 owned by Ambassadors.
1 Margot
1 is mine

Krell

1. SchemeUp
2. ElevateUp
3. FuseUp
4. AdjustUp
5. UpBonus
6. Upclix
7. Hoverup
8. UpCruise
9. SuitsUp
10. UpBloom
11. CoachedUp
12. StorageUp
13. UpModern
14. UpHandle
15. UpAvenue
16. FiberUp
17. AccountUp
18. UpCapsule
19. Uplandia
20. UpHabit
21. UpSavvy
22. UpVis
23. UpFader
24. Uptimus
25. UpVos
26. UpBunny

So for the second page, of 48 names, Mr.Krell owns 26 names , I own 1 name, Margot owns 1 , and the Ambassadors own 3 so the house owns 26+1+3 = 30 names of 48 displayed.

When you own 43 names of the first 2 pages of a 96 names, you bound to expect sales and top them too, specially when a marketplace has 44K+ names.

Analysed results page 3 of keyword UP too , and here is the result. Well I shall stop then lol.

1 names is mine
3 names have privacy
1 names owned by Ambassadors

Krell

1. UpSlate
2. UpCrate
3. UpComet
4. UpRider
5. ThinksUp
6. UpItGoes
7. UpTonight
8. UpDrill
9. UpCodes
10. RoamUp
11. UpNotch
12. Circup
13. UpDoodle
14. UpSecond
15. UpVisit
16. UpString
17. PresentUp
18. BoosterUp
19. UpJar
20. UpBuddy
21. UpHawk
22. UpChimp
23. KloseUp
24. UpStorm
25. UpWheel

So again of 48 names Krell owns 25 , 1 is owned by ambasador , 1 is owned by me and 3 are under privacy.

So , in first page , he has 17 , and second page he has 26, and third 25 . So when each page displays 48 names, that is 48x 3 = 144 names. Krell alone owns 68 of those .

Well no more discussion then as this is a home run as Americans say lol. Any sane person wouldnt expect anything but to have a lot of sales and to top the sales charts when his or her domains are having outstanding placements.

After these analysis , I can easily say the three names I had there sold were probably from users who visited the domains cause no way any of my names are in good position for a user to search and choose it from 45K names.

 

[creataweb]

I have to agree with you sirs about this.

 

[PowerDN]

I used to submit my brandables to:
BB, if rejected then submit to BR, then NR.

Now that BB is far too crowded and my sales rate decrease significantly, I change my preference: BR, NR, then BB.
I have better sales rate at BR now.

 

[SuperBrander]

I don't know what really happens behind the scenes, but I do think that an important part of the equation that needs to be mentioned is that Michael currently owns 6729 BB listed domains according to his profile page. Naturally he's gonna have way more domains in every possible search and he's probably focusing on certain keywords and 'up' is one of them.

Again... Not trying to defend BB or Michael and personally I'm not a big fan of the fact that regular sellers are "competing" against BB staff which will always raise integrity questions and conspiracy theories. But that's how BB works. I think ultimately it's each and every one's choice whether BB suits them or not and if it does- in what capacity. Some sellers are making a good/great return on their investment. Some less so. Some not at all. You can't please everybody all the time and not all names can sell. If BB doesn't work for you, there are always alternatives.

 

[creataweb]

I don't know what really happens behind the scenes, but I do think that an important part of the equation that needs to be mentioned is that Michael currently owns 6729 BB listed domains according to his profile page. Naturally he's gonna have way more domains in every possible search and he's probably focusing on certain keywords and 'up' is one of them.

Again... Not trying to defend BB or Michael and personally I'm not a big fan of the fact that regular sellers are "competing" against BB staff which will always raise integrity questions and conspiracy theories. But that's how BB works. I think ultimately it's each and every one's choice whether BB suits them or not and if it does- in what capacity. Some sellers are making a good/great return on their investment. Some less so. Some not at all. You can't please everybody all the time and not all names can sell. If BB doesn't work for you, there are always alternatives.

Sir, no one else is going to pay $67,290 in fees plus acquisition.... to list on BB. I'm sure he does not pay fees. Whole different story.

 

[SuperBrander]

@creataweb I'm pretty sure I remember him saying on the slack channel that he is paying fees, but if someone knows otherwise- please chime in. I know from his interviews that he started there like any other seller and built up his portfolio. Because he started making many sales, he invested more money into it and eventually became the managing director etc. Again, I'm not a BB defender and I have problems with a lot of things they do. But they do also get sales for names that very likely wouldn't sell elsewhere and for prices that are hard to get elsewhere.

 

[creataweb]

@creataweb I'm pretty sure I remember him saying on the slack channel that he is paying fees, but if someone knows otherwise- please chime in. I know from his interviews that he started there like any other seller and built up his portfolio. Because he started making many sales, he invested more money into it and eventually became the managing director etc. Again, I'm not a BB defender and I have problems with a lot of things they do. But they do also get sales for names that very likely wouldn't sell elsewhere and for prices that are hard to get elsewhere.

I understand sir, but I doubt Bill Gates bought his Windows 95 License legit.

 

[SuperBrander]

I understand sir, but I doubt Bill Gates bought his Windows 95 License legit.

Like I said, staff and sellers selling together will always raise questions. From his interviews and from his replies on the slack channel and from other staff replies there, I get the impression that Michael and other BB staff aren't shady people. There are built in issues that I find problematic and some decisions I'm not a fan of, but I think accusation and speculation without proof don't lead to good places.

 

[creataweb]

Like I said, staff and sellers selling together will always raise questions. From his interviews and from his replies on the slack channel and from other staff replies there, I get the impression that Michael and other BB staff aren't shady people. There are built in issues that I find problematic and some decisions I'm not a fan of, but I think accusation and speculation without proof don't lead to good places.

I only said what I said. Let's not get hasty here sir.

 

[SuperBrander]

@creataweb I'm talking in general, not specifically about your post.

 

[creataweb]

@creataweb I'm talking in general, not specifically about your post.

Ok sir, thank you. All opinions and points are welcome in my eyes.

 

[BlueprintMedia]

Ok sir, thank you. All opinions and points are welcome in my eyes.

Ahhhh, them eyes!

 

[Abdillahi Abdillahi]

I don't know what really happens behind the scenes, but I do think that an important part of the equation that needs to be mentioned is that Michael currently owns 6729 BB listed domains according to his profile page. Naturally he's gonna have way more domains in every possible search and he's probably focusing on certain keywords and 'up' is one of them.

Again... Not trying to defend BB or Michael and personally I'm not a big fan of the fact that regular sellers are "competing" against BB staff which will always raise integrity questions and conspiracy theories. But that's how BB works. I think ultimately it's each and every one's choice whether BB suits them or not and if it does- in what capacity. Some sellers are making a good/great return on their investment. Some less so. Some not at all. You can't please everybody all the time and not all names can sell. If BB doesn't work for you, there are always alternatives.

6700 out of 45000? Other sellers with 1,2,3 K domains are getting the same then in the search results ? Well this is becoming waste of time honestly. Cause simply it is not logic saying he has 6700 domains so he should dominate the search results. If that is logic, then 45000-6700 will be 38300 so the owners of those 38300 domains should dominate the results not him, cause he has JUST 6700 domains out of 45K . See ? Not working buddy. My research was for UP names only but this is not something that is happening in UP names only. Here, the search for keyword Security returned the following in first page ONLY.

1 Mine
3 Privacy
2 Ambassador
6 Margot

Krell

1. SecurityTap
2. GiantSecurity
3. HelloSecurity
4. SecurityValve
5. SecurityRoot
6. SecureBright
7. SecurityFleet
8. SecuritySide
9. SecurityCrate
10. SwipeSecurity
11. CloudTower
12. OKSite
13. RemainCalm

Of 48 names in first page for the keyword security , Krell owns 13 , Margot 6, Ambassador 2, that is 21 from the house. 1 is mine and 3 are under privacy . So as you can see it is general thing not something happening with UP names only.

 

[JimJammy]

People are finding it difficult to follow your argument because you are measuring against the wrong metric.

If there are 500 'up' names and Michael owns 200 of them (40%), then you would expect Michaels names to appear 40% of the time on each page (+/- a variance for quality). Michael clearly likes Up names because he has listed loads of them.

I don't think I appear at all for any Up names.... perhaps because I don't own any.

 

[boker]

People are finding it difficult to follow your argument because you are measuring against the wrong metric.

If there are 500 'up' names and Michael owns 200 of them (40%), then you would expect Michaels names to appear 40% of the time on each page (+/- a variance for quality). Michael clearly likes Up names because he has listed loads of them.

I don't think I appear at all for any Up names.... perhaps because I don't own any.

As far as I know it's mostly the same for every keyword...if you know some strong keywords that they are not in this situation please give an example. For each keyword 'Brandbucket family' owns around 15% of the names but they have roughly over 50% on the first page. Probably it's just a coincidence, no?

 

[Sinh]

I need a help. Recently I have received an email from BrandBucket to ask me to public my domain name : *OOI.com with selling price near $12,000. I don't move up because I haven't had any sale from BB.

Do you think BB usually have sales with high prices like this ($12,000)?

Thank you a lot.

 

[JimJammy]

As far as I know it's mostly the same for every keyword...if you know some strong keywords that they are not in this situation please give an example. For each keyword 'Brandbucket family' owns around 15% of the names but they have roughly over 50% on the first page. Probably it's just a coincidence, no?

As far as you know? So you've never worked it out? Neither have I, nor do I care to because I think it's a moot point.

If we take the Up words as our example, if a purchaser really wants an UpDomain they will go through every UpDomain listed and choose the most apt/best priced domain for them. They will not take one on the front page without checking further.