BrandBucket Experience

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hello

I am new to BrandBucket. Before getting my hands on this

I wish to experience about brandbucket from my fellow members


Thanks

 

[Grilled]

No, I haven't. Please feel free. Looking at my own portfolios I noticed that the average was 1-2 lines of blue keywords.. So about 15 to 20ish keywords.

This would take a lot of time, as I don't have backend access to BB. I was hoping the backend system had a way to count tags per domain, then you could group this by seller, then figure out average amount of tags per seller. This could be further broken down to amount of tags to premium domains, and/or audit the tags of sold domains to help understand more about the sale. If I get around to it, I'll have a buddy write a script to scrape BB for tags and run a full audit, if you're asking for help.

I checked 20 of my names and 20 of Krells names on page 6 of both my and Krells portfolio site and krell had no more keyword tagged to his names than I had for my names - I have a lot of names with between 20 and 30 tags

Thanks for checking! I appreciate the nonbiased page 6 approach for sample data randomization.

 

[Domainzy]

I checked 20 of my names and 20 of Krells names on page 6 of both my and Krells portfolio site and krell had no more keyword tagged to his names than I had for my names - I have a lot of names with between 20 and 30 tags

I'm a BB ambassador and most of my keywords average one line of keywords! And when I checked my keywords for D/e/t/o/x/a/b/l/e(2) and D/r/o/n/e/a/bl/y (0)! Plus they both have zero possible business uses! LOL!

So I guess I am getting special treatment! :P HAHA!

I just wanted to point out that BB does make mistakes sometimes and it's always a good idea to check to make sure your listed domains HAVE keywords and possible business uses!.... If not... Simply email Julia at: [email protected]

Cheers!

 

[Amanda]

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Thanks!

 

[hookbox]

I'm a BB ambassador and most of my keywords average one line of keywords! And when I checked my keywords for D/e/t/o/x/a/b/l/e(2) and D/r/o/n/e/a/bl/y (0)! Plus they both have zero possible business uses! LOL!

So I guess I am getting special treatment! :P HAHA!

I just wanted to point out that BB does make mistakes sometimes and it's always a good idea to check to make sure your listed domains HAVE keywords and possible business uses!.... If not... Simply email Julia at: [email protected]

Cheers!

Most users average one line of keywords which is around 10 and maybe a bit more. Most of @JimJammy names average about 10 also and some more but no where near what his does. Below are some I randomly found of Krell's with how many keywords per name. Obviously the more keywords a name has the more chance you have that the name will be found when searched and the more chance you have to sell it.

Why should anyone have a distinct advantage over anyone else if it's a true level playing field. Take the info anyway you like because I could care less but one would assume that when something like this is brought up you would want answers. I'm giving you the facts so get the answers. I know you think it is unfair and that is why you actually looked to see how many keywords your names have because if it's true that he has double, triple, quadruple what you have then something is very wrong. That is why you almost liked the post in the first place. You can be blind if you want but like I said facts are facts.


EVERDUTY 29

CODEPEDAL 26

SMARTCAPTAIN 25

LOVERAISER 40

TRAVELBATCH 27

FUNDSECRET 35

TRACKINGROBOT 26

SCALINGFAST 33

SLEEPLOGICS 27

UNITYCAMP 27

TARGETWATCH 26

ELITEFOLDER 37

CYCLEPULSE 30

BOLDFUNDS 32

KEEPMODE 28

LUXURYSPRING 35

DYNOSTACK 30

PUMPTAP 41

LOGICSENTRY 31

TAPVENTURES 34

TARGETCART 32

BUDDYCROWD 37

STABLEIQ 33

BOOSTAPPEAL 30

VERYSOLD 30

URGENTLOAD 33

CAPITALNOTE 33

CAPITALSCOUTS 31

BLAZINGCODE 34

APPCLOAK 29

SWAGSTACK 36

PRIMEGAIN 33

STARTUPCOLLAB 30

CHARGEWALLET 31

INFINITEMODE 31

VENTUREVUE 31

RANKMETRIC 36

CRAFTVENTURES 31

ELITEPROGRESS 40

STACKFIRST 32

LARGECHARGE 40

CLOAKDRIVE 37

MEDICALSURGE 37

HATCHDRIVE 35

 

[hookbox]

I checked 20 of my names and 20 of Krells names on page 6 of both my and Krells portfolio site and krell had no more keyword tagged to his names than I had for my names - I have a lot of names with between 20 and 30 tags

Like I said in my post you can't choose names that have just been added into the system because he/they have not had time yet to go back and add more keywords. Names on page 6 of your portfolio are names that have been there for many months. Page 6 would be going back about 300 domains. Page 6 of Krell's portfolio which is also going back about 300 domains would be domains that he added a couple of days ago. Comparing your page 6 to his page 6 isn't even a comparison in the same amount of time those names have been live. Go deeper into the portfolios where there has been plenty of time to add more keywords and your thoughts I'm sure will be much different.

 

[Abdillahi Abdillahi]

I checked 20 of my names and 20 of Krells names on page 6 of both my and Krells portfolio site and krell had no more keyword tagged to his names than I had for my names - I have a lot of names with between 20 and 30 tags

Good to know. I guess there is no standard. I have 13, 17, 20 etc.

 

[Grilled]

48 of your last 100 posts are about BrandBucket, or calling out BB or Michael Krell directly on various 'issues' that you have.

When I was BrandBucket or bust, I was close minded and did not like reading what @hookbox had to say. I have learned to listen to all with an open mind, yet be weary, and question where the info is coming from. I assume @hookbox is a brandable domainer who considered using BrandBucket, and didn't like what they saw. They have brought forth many details and facts to light that as an investor, I greatly appreciate.

Thank you @JimJammy for questioning their motive, but personally, I believe it's besides the point. There is lots of great free QA in @hookbox brandbucket posts. Since they aren't directly invested with BrandBucket, they have no motive to put BrandBucket on a you can do no wrong pedestal based off of reseller and fanboy hype.

 

[Zoltan P.]

I have checked a few of my names randomly and the result is pretty sad:

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16
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14

 

[Abdillahi Abdillahi]

I have checked a few of my names randomly and the result is pretty sad:

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23
10
13
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16
17
14
22
18
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I am as sad as you are.

 

[Domainzy]

Most users average one line of keywords which is around 10 and maybe a bit more. Most of @JimJammy names average about 10 also and some more but no where near what his does. Below are some I randomly found of Krell's with how many keywords per name. Obviously the more keywords a name has the more chance you have that the name will be found when searched and the more chance you have to sell it.

Why should anyone have a distinct advantage over anyone else if it's a true level playing field. Take the info anyway you like because I could care less but one would assume that when something like this is brought up you would want answers. I'm giving you the facts so get the answers. I know you think it is unfair and that is why you actually looked to see how many keywords your names have because if it's true that he has double, triple, quadruple what you have then something is very wrong. That is why you almost liked the post in the first place. You can be blind if you want but like I said facts are facts.


EVERDUTY 29

CODEPEDAL 26

SMARTCAPTAIN 25

LOVERAISER 40

TRAVELBATCH 27

FUNDSECRET 35

TRACKINGROBOT 26

SCALINGFAST 33

SLEEPLOGICS 27

UNITYCAMP 27

TARGETWATCH 26

ELITEFOLDER 37

CYCLEPULSE 30

BOLDFUNDS 32

KEEPMODE 28

LUXURYSPRING 35

DYNOSTACK 30

PUMPTAP 41

LOGICSENTRY 31

TAPVENTURES 34

TARGETCART 32

BUDDYCROWD 37

STABLEIQ 33

BOOSTAPPEAL 30

VERYSOLD 30

URGENTLOAD 33

CAPITALNOTE 33

CAPITALSCOUTS 31

BLAZINGCODE 34

APPCLOAK 29

SWAGSTACK 36

PRIMEGAIN 33

STARTUPCOLLAB 30

CHARGEWALLET 31

INFINITEMODE 31

VENTUREVUE 31

RANKMETRIC 36

CRAFTVENTURES 31

ELITEPROGRESS 40

STACKFIRST 32

LARGECHARGE 40

CLOAKDRIVE 37

MEDICALSURGE 37

HATCHDRIVE 35

I just looked at all my domains with the most keywords:

#1) - 41 keywords
#2) - 35 keywords
#3) - 31 keywords

These 3 domains are TWO WORDS. Notice that almost all the domains you posted from MediaPlow are two words...

Conclusion: Brandable domains with 2 root words usually have more keywords. MUB/suffix domains only have one root word so less keywords.

Cheers!

 

[Grilled]

Conclusion: Brandable domains with 2 root words usually have more keywords. MUB/suffix domains only have one root word so less keywords.

So to clarify, all domains with 2 root words ie 90-95% of MediaPlow, have more searchable tags than made up brandable domains?

Above screenshot from TLDInvestors.com

Is it possible the amount of searchable tags relates to April sales? To answer, audit the tags of all sold domains.

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Questions to ask about sales:

1) Do 2 root word domains receive more targeted traffic more easily identifiable directly by the enduser? ie ColorTreeLLC buys ColorTree from BB for $X,XXX

2) Do more tags make the domain more searchable in BB's internal search? ie easier to find.

3) Other questions...

 

[wwwulff]

I just looked at all my domains with the most keywords:

#1) - 41 keywords
#2) - 35 keywords
#3) - 31 keywords

These 3 domains are TWO WORDS. Notice that almost all the domains you posted from MediaPlow are two words...

Conclusion: Brandable domains with 2 root words usually have more keywords. MUB/suffix domains only have one root word so less keywords.

Cheers!

I see the same pattern in my portfolio, but some of the other names still have over 20 keyword tagged - I have a keyword ending in sy with 27 tags and a 6L invented with 35 tags

 

[wwwulff]

So to clarify, all domains with 2 root words ie 90-95% of MediaPlow, have more searchable tags than made up brandable domains?

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Above screenshot from TLDInvestors.com

Is it possible the amount of searchable tags relates to April sales? To answer, audit the tags of all sold domains.

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Questions to ask about sales:

1) Do 2 root word domains receive more targeted traffic more easily identifiable directly by the enduser? ie ColorTreeLLC buys ColorTree from BB for $X,XXX

2) Do more tags make the domain more searchable in BB's internal search? ie easier to find.

3) Other questions...

Good point - I think this may be a contributing factor to keyword selling better

 

[Grilled]

I have a keyword ending in sy with 27 tags

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Does keyword + sy domain have a keyword with lots of synonyms?

As a former description writer for a brandable marketplace, I found it easier to create tags for a keyword such as 'true' with more synonyms vs a keyword such as 'lion' with less synonyms.
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[wwwulff]

Does keyword + sy domain have a keyword with lots of synonyms?

As a former description writer for a brandable marketplace, I found it easier to create tags for a keyword such as 'true' with more synonyms vs a keyword such as 'lion' with less synonyms.
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It's hard to say - I only get 19 synonyms for the keyword when I search

 

[Domainzy]

So to clarify, all domains with 2 root words ie 90-95% of MediaPlow, have more searchable tags than made up brandable domains?

According to my portfolio at BB yes two-word domains (not all of mine, but most) have more keywords than my MUB/suffix domains.

Cheers!

 

[Grilled]

According to my portfolio at BB yes two-word domains (not all of mine, but most) have more keywords than my MUB/suffix domains.

Cheers!

Thanks for clarifying!

After briefly comparing your 4L portfolio to your keyword portfolio, I noticed your keyword domains contain more tags than your 4L domains. Do you think this could attribute to BrandBuckets low amount of 4L domain sales?

I think we can all agree 4L domains are basically liquid, regardless of marketplace. Don't brandable 4L domain owners agree to pay bb a listing fee to exclusively list with bb in exchange for these domains to be seen just as much if not more than domains of lesser liquidity?

For those who are confused by MUB, I believe it means Made-up-Brandable...

 

[hookbox]

I just looked at all my domains with the most keywords:

#1) - 41 keywords
#2) - 35 keywords
#3) - 31 keywords

These 3 domains are TWO WORDS. Notice that almost all the domains you posted from MediaPlow are two words...

Conclusion: Brandable domains with 2 root words usually have more keywords. MUB/suffix domains only have one root word so less keywords.

Cheers!

Most of your two word domains have 10-15 keywords. I didn't see any that had 41. Your portfolio isn't that large so it was easy to go through. Having two words in the domain then your keywords should definitely go up but it's not always the case. The keywords aren't even the same when one of the words is the same in two different domains. I used these two domains from your portfolio as an example.

KeepCart has the keywords cart, e-commerce, keep, Online Marketing, sales, shopper, shopping cart, technology, wish lists

StackCart has the keywords, buying, cart, commerce, internet, manufacturing, online, organized, retail, shipping, stack, versatile

As you can see even with the word Cart in both domains the keywords related to the word Cart are totally different which means they are manually inputed and that is why some portfolio holders have more keywords and others don't. Maybe the BB team chooses names that they think have a better chance of selling and manually input more keywords to give a good domain a better chance at selling. I don't know if that's the case but it seems this way. Why waste time manually inputing 30 or 40 keywords on names that they think have no chance of selling.

Another example is one in someone else's portfolio Cartzy. Cart is the only word in this domain but the keywords are Boutiques, bright, carts, commerce, fun, internet, malls, memorable, online, playful, purchases, retailers, sales, shopping, shops, stores, transactions. This domain only has one keyword not two keywords but has more and different keywords then the other Cart domains.

It's obvious that the keywords are manually inputed by someone on the BrandBucket team so it's safe to say that some portfolio holders can have 40 keywords on a similar domain while someone else only has 10.

I can sit here all day and analyze domains but the bottom line is some sellers are able to have many more keywords then others.

 

[Domainzy]

Thanks for clarifying!

After briefly comparing your 4L portfolio to your keyword portfolio, I noticed your keyword domains contain more tags than your 4L domains. Do you think this could attribute to BrandBuckets low amount of 4L domain sales?

I think we can all agree 4L domains are basically liquid, regardless of marketplace. Don't brandable 4L domain owners agree to pay bb a listing fee to exclusively list with bb in exchange for these domains to be seen just as much if not more than domains of lesser liquidity?

For those who are confused by MUB, I believe it means Made-up-Brandable...

4L domains are unique because they hardly ever contain WORDS within the 4 letters. And 4L that contains a 4 letter word are worth a million, if not hundreds of thousands.

So what is left over is MUB (make up brandables)... like DIUY, UZRS, COZU, OXFA, ONQO, etc.. Since these domains do not actually have a root word, they are harder to match keywords to.

As far as 4L's being 'liquid'... this is very true and the main reason I heavily invest in 4L's. Which means if I decide domaining is not my thing (like my friend @Shane Bellone) then I can liquidate(wholesale) my 4L's and not loose a dime... However, in the mean time... I enjoy the logo's and the sales(retail) that BB brings.

With my BB rejects I tried GD, Flippa, NameJet, SEDO, AfterNic, etc..... But Im a numbers guy.. and BB brings me BIGGER NUMBER$.

Cheers!

 

[Brandworthy]

I was hoping the backend system had a way to count tags per domain, then you could group this by seller, then figure out average amount of tags per seller.

Their API returns the keywords in a nice serialized group. You can request all names or names from a particular seller. Last time I looked at API was a while back, but hopefully this is all still valid.

If I get around to it, I'll have a buddy write a script to scrape BB for tags and run a full audit, if you're asking for help.

As per above - no need to scrape them for this.

I have checked a few of my names randomly and the result is pretty sad

I can imagine invented names will have less tags than keyword names. You're always playing catch up with invented names IMO, and my portfolio is very heavily skewed in the invented direction. But I'm not unhappy with the return I get from BB, so rather than complain I'm trying to diversify my portfolio a little bit more into keyword names. Time will tell, but my sales have been good in the past 4-5 weeks.