BrandBucket Experience

[xtremex]

hello

I am new to BrandBucket. Before getting my hands on this

I wish to experience about brandbucket from my fellow members


Thanks

 

[Brandzilla]

Thanks but going forward to do the same numbers someone would have to pay the $4400-maybe im wrong but that might slow down submissions in volume anyway.

I will likely be reinvesting my sales proceeds in new names (incl. listing fees). As long as I'm selling, I will likely be expanding.

As for the general population, I would GUESS that it would slow down listing of accepted names.

 

[JimJammy]

Hi All! I’m one of those silent lurkers here at NamePros. Since I’ve been viewing this forum for more than a month, I thought it was high time I came out of hiding…

I want to thank everyone for providing me with some invaluable info … as well as giving me a few laughs (whether intentional or not). And I would imagine that Julia would thank you as well if she only knew the number of emails that you have saved me from sending to her (due to the info found here)!

Within the past couple of weeks, have any of you experienced a higher number of rejected domain submissions? I’ve gone from nearly 80% accepted … to nearly 80% rejected!!!

Okay – I’ve always been confused that some (seemingly) great domain names have been rejected in the past … but lately it appears that LOTS of names that would have been accepted only a few weeks ago are now being rejected?!? Instead of getting better at choosing domain names (as I seemed to be doing), I now feel more confused than ever before. Have I really learned NOTHING? Have I completely lost my mojo?

Or is BrandBucket just reigning in on the unprecedented growth of their inventory? Perhaps they are going back to being more choosey with the domain names accepted. That, along with the removal of the voting-for-credits feature would do it.

Or is it just me?

Hey, it's great to finally 'meet' you. I've been watching your portfolio since the beginning. We both started on BB about the same time (I signed up over a year ago but only started submitting names in March) and we've grown at roughly the same rate. Some days I take a look at you have a few more than me and the next day I have a few more than you :D. I'm 12 names behind you right now.

Have you had any sales? I've had 2.

And yes, same here, from about a 70% acceptance rate down to 22%. My average domain price is around $25, add a $10 listing fee and it's costing me approx $135 to get a name listed now. Basically, I have to sell one in every 10 names listed just to break even if I continue to add names. (if I include the cost of renewing the names after a year that makes it roughly 1 in every 9 names to break even).

 

[trelgor]

@trelgor
As far as learning experiences go, I would say that I've learned that virtually all of my domain sales on BB have been what I would consider top quality names. I think that all of my names are good don't get me wrong, but the ones that sell meet a high standard.

@AndrewRice

This is r e a l l y interesting. (To me atleast).

Since you see a quality difference in names sold versus names unsold I was wondering if you could try to verbalize it? Exemplify?

Personally, I don't see any selfevident "premium" appeal to M*O*B*I*A*G*O (1) or V*A*Z*O*O*L*A (2).

I think (1) has many alternate variations that could be considered equal or superior. It has an extra syllable in the form of the "A" in the middle. What I like about it is that it is based on a highly desirable keyword. I also like the "go", that the "A" works well with, see "A go go". That is somewhat negated though by the pronunciation of that "A" that to me atleast becomes long. Same prosody (word melody) as "santiAgo".

Not being keyword based at all, (2) has even more similar alternates IMO.

What is the linguistic quality stamp you see in these names compared to lesser names?

Defining and detailing a few linguistic rules of thumb would IMO benefit BB, BB buyers, and BB sellers alike. On par with acquisition skills, and industry knowledge.

What are yours?

Thank you for your replies!

 

[London555]

I will likely be reinvesting my sales proceeds in new names (incl. listing fees). As long as I'm selling, I will likely be expanding.

As for the general population, I would GUESS that it would slow down listing of accepted names.

So please correct me if im wrong-you have about 400 published names on BrandBucket now-have sold 3 or approx 1% but to get those 400 names published assuming even a 50% approval rate (high) you had to give them approx. 800 names you bought? These numbers simply don't add up to profit-what am I missing?

 

[Brandzilla]

So please correct me if im wrong-you have about 400 published names on BrandBucket now-have sold 3 or approx 1% but to get those 400 names published assuming even a 50% approval rate (high) you had to give them approx. 800 names you bought? These numbers simply don't add up to profit-what am I missing?

I never said that I was profitable yet. I have SLOWLY been building up inventory over 7-8 months. I do not understand what the confusion is. I have 444 published, with around 60 or so more in queue. 3 sales. My approval rate is above 50%, but not by much.

 

[London555]

I never said that I was profitable yet. I have SLOWLY been building up inventory over 7-8 months. I do not understand what the confusion is. I have 444 published, with around 60 or so more in queue. 3 sales. My approval rate is above 50%, but not by much.

The confusion comes when you state "sold one within 24 hours of listing" and every new person reading this here runs out to reg 100 names to give BB. How about giving the whole picture with a statement like that. I understand you never said you were profitable but from what I can see you've bought about 900 or so names got 440 published and have sold 3-that's the whole picture. I'm sure you'll be selling many more and it will work out for you in the long run but people new to domains need to understand the costs involved etc. in buying and selling these types of names.

 

[Brandzilla]

The confusion comes when you state "sold one within 24 hours of listing" and every new person reading this here runs out to reg 100 names to give BB. I understand you never said you were profitable but from what I can see you've bought about about 900 names or so got 440 published and have sold 3-that's the whole picture.

I think that I made it clear earlier that I had zero sales for 7 months, then 3 in one month. This is in part due to increased inventory numbers. But it could be pure luck. I am conscious that I may never sell another name again and take a big loss.

Regarding the sale within 24 hours - it is not really my job to disclaimer every statement that I make. But fair enough if you are trying to save others from themselves.

 

[NameFit]

To add to above, there will 'always' be readers who will fall for one post or another - one cannot help that. There will always be readers who will read the complete thread from page 1 or at least half of them to make a decision. Let the reader beware. What about middle 60% or so readers who do not fit into either category. A brief synopsis of the post is definitely helpful to the readers and in general health of the forums. Readers are definitely benefited by this rather than putting two and two (posts) together.

 

[Dominic Belley]

Just reached 20 published this morning. Plus 6 in Logo Design which I think are my better names.

Submitted 118 so I have 22% success. But I submit all my domains even if I know some does not really apply to BB so my % is a bit inaccurate.

1st published was on May 30th. So less than 2 months ago.
No sales. My goal is to get 1 sale before the end of the year.

 

[London555]

BB site running VERY slow.

 

[London555]

Please post the average wait time from submission to publish. Thank you.

 

[svede]

Was it pure brandables ? If yes, how did you sell them ?

I assume you mean the ones that were rejected? Yes, they were pure brandables. They were all sold through me being contacted either via my parking page or whois email. The best domains should be ones that someone would type in or search for IMHO. These were some of my lower quality ones, but I had still selected them due to my belief people would search for them for various reasons.


Also a correction... last time I gave my numbers wrong (sorry, was thinking there were 10 per page in BB account section, not 20 like there is)... i actually had 51 accepted out of 213 (23.9% "official" acceptance rate).
Now, as an update, of the 20 I had pending acceptance/rejection, 10 of them were accepted (50%). So I now have 31 published, 20 pending logo design, and 10 pending action from me. That brings me to 61 out of 233 (26.2% "official" acceptance rate). So realistically, my rate would probably be 35-40% if I hadn't experimented.

Hope this helps!

 

[London555]

I assume you mean the ones that were rejected? Yes, they were pure brandables. They were all sold through me being contacted either via my parking page or whois email. The best domains should be ones that someone would type in or search for IMHO. These were some of my lower quality ones, but I had still selected them due to my belief people would search for them for various reasons.


Also a correction... last time I gave my numbers wrong (sorry, was thinking there were 10 per page in BB account section, not 20 like there is)... i actually had 51 accepted out of 213 (23.9% "official" acceptance rate).
Now, as an update, of the 20 I had pending acceptance/rejection, 10 of them were accepted (50%). So I now have 31 published, 20 pending logo design, and 10 pending action from me. That brings me to 61 out of 233 (26.2% "official" acceptance rate). So realistically, my rate would probably be 35-40% if I hadn't experimented.

Hope this helps!

Svede-how long on average from Submission to Publish? Thank you.

 

[deverett]

Hey, it's great to finally 'meet' you. I've been watching your portfolio since the beginning. We both started on BB about the same time (I signed up over a year ago but only started submitting names in March) and we've grown at roughly the same rate. Some days I take a look at you have a few more than me and the next day I have a few more than you :D. I'm 12 names behind you right now.

Have you had any sales? I've had 2.

And yes, same here, from about a 70% acceptance rate down to 22%. My average domain price is around $25, add a $10 listing fee and it's costing me approx $135 to get a name listed now. Basically, I have to sell one in every 10 names listed just to break even if I continue to add names. (if I include the cost of renewing the names after a year that makes it roughly 1 in every 9 names to break even).

Nice to 'meet' you as well. I'm guessing that your BB name begins with an 'A' (hope it is okay to say that here)? You have a very 'smart' portfolio (so that's where all the LLLLL.com domains have gone) ... I'm a bit envious! I can see why you have had some sales...

I'm just beginning week #20 with BB. I have a total of 237 accepted names with 191 currently published (most published within the last month). Unfortunately, I have not had any sales yet ... but I have only accumulated about 5,400 'listed days' so far (per Nat Hunt's formula, I need 7,300 'listed days' before I need to start worrying).

Also -- I hope that I haven't misled anyone here earlier. When I said that my most recent acceptance rate was about 20%, I was referring to the last 30 submissions reviewed. And my prior approval rate of about 80% referred only to the 30 submissions reviewed just before. Although I have definitely gotten better at choosing names for BB (excluding the latest 30 domains), my overall acceptance rate is still below 50% ... which means that I have submitted over 500 domains in order to have those 237 approved.

 

[London555]

Nice to 'meet' you as well. I'm guessing that your BB name begins with an 'A' (hope it is okay to say that here)? You have a very 'smart' portfolio (so that's where all the LLLLL.com domains have gone) ... I'm a bit envious! I can see why you have had some sales...

I'm just beginning week #20 with BB. I have a total of 237 accepted names with 191 currently published (most published within the last month). Unfortunately, I have not had any sales yet ... but I have only accumulated about 5,400 'listed days' so far (per Nat Hunt's formula, I need 7,300 'listed days' before I need to start worrying).

Also -- I hope that I haven't misled anyone here earlier. When I said that my most recent acceptance rate was about 20%, I was referring to the last 30 submissions reviewed. And my prior approval rate of about 80% referred only to the 30 submissions reviewed just before. Although I have definitely gotten better at choosing names for BB (excluding the latest 30 domains), my overall acceptance rate is still below 50% ... which means that I have submitted over 500 domains in order to have those 237 approved.

So 237 approved at approx $20 ea (not counting "voting") you've laid out almost $5,000 plus another $2500 approx for the rejects or $7,500 total without ONE sale? Am I reading correctly? Thank you.

 

[svede]

Svede-how long on average from Submission to Publish? Thank you.

Here are the length from submission to publish on the 31 published domains I have.
Avg Days: 42.48387
Min Days: 33
Max Days: 50

But that includes delays on my end as well. It is also seems to be moving faster now.

Hope this helps!

 

[London555]

Here are the length from submission to publish on the 31 published domains I have.
Avg Days: 42.48387
Min Days: 33
Max Days: 50

But that includes delays on my end as well. Is also seems to be moving faster now.

Hope this helps!

Man I knew you'd have those numbers-lol . I have one sitting over 90 days from submission and still no logo. Thank you.

 

[deverett]

So 237 approved at approx $20 ea (not counting "voting") you've laid out almost $5,000 plus another $2500 approx for the rejects or $7,500 total without ONE sale? Am I reading correctly? Thank you.

London555 ... I gotta say that you made me smile! I figured that you were going to jump all over my numbers. You certainly did not disappoint me (or waste any time)...

I purposely didn't disclose the average amount that I've paid for my domains ... but I suppose that you have 'forced' me to admit that I have hand-reg'd most of my names using GoDaddy coupons (probably paid less than $3 for 2/3 of them). So the average for ALL my brandable domains is less than $6.

And I have amassed 4820 credits using BB's voting-for-credits (I have only used 2370 credits and still have more than half left). So I won't be shelling out any $$$ for accepted submissions for a long, long time.

I just sold one of my rejected names on Sedo for $1,400 which covers almost half of my investment in brandables so far. Not paying the bills yet ... but I'm keeping my fingers crossed as I type this.

Otherwise, you are reading me correctly.

 

[London555]

London555 ... I gotta say that you made me smile! I figured that you were going to jump all over my numbers. You certainly did not disappoint me (or waste any time)...

I purposely didn't disclose the average amount that I've paid for my domains ... but I suppose that you have 'forced' me to admit that I have hand-reg'd most of my names using GoDaddy coupons (probably paid less than $3 for 2/3 of them). So the average for ALL my brandable domains is less than $6.

And I have amassed 4820 credits using BB's voting-for-credits (I have only used 2370 credits and still have more than half left). So I won't be shelling out any $$$ for accepted submissions for a long, long time.

I just sold one of my rejected names on Sedo for $1,400 which covers almost half of my investment in brandables so far. Not paying the bills yet ... but I'm keeping my fingers crossed as I type this.

Otherwise, you are reading me correctly.

4800 credits dont your fingers hurt from pressing that button? Thank you for the reply and im glad you did because id like to ask on SEDO your sale was it an auction type or you just had it listed if you dont mind me asking? I see many brandables sold there and have wondered-Dorons blog DNGeek.com lists them all the time-thanks for the reply!

 

[deverett]

4800 credits dont your fingers hurt from pressing that button? Thank you for the reply and im glad you did because id like to ask on SEDO your sale was it an auction type or you just had it listed if you dont mind me asking? I see many brandables sold there and have wondered-Dorons blog DNGeek.com lists them all the time-thanks for the reply!

Actually I voted up to 5000 credits and later noticed that 180 credits (1800 votes) weren't carrying over from the voting page to my user page totals. When I asked BB about this, they informed me that although the voting app was still active, effective July 3rd, voting no longer added credits to members.

I think I cried.

So, yes, my fingers DO hurt ... and that damn voting app is still active!!! To be fair, I had received Michael's newsletter on July 3rd stating that BB would be 'discontinuing' their voting app. I foolishly ASSUMED that since it was still up and running after that date, I could still sneak in a 'few' votes to get me up to an even 500 free submissions. My bad...

The brandable domain that sold (started with 'B - U - Z - Z' and ended with 'N - E - R') was only listed on Sedo. I had submitted it to BB earlier and it had actually not been reviewed yet when it sold. About a week later, while the domain was still registered under my name, BB notified me that the name had been rejected. Funny that I ASSUMED (bad habit of mine) that it would SURELY be approved ... after all, it had sold on Sedo ... and I was dying to know what price BB would put on it.