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hello

I am new to BrandBucket. Before getting my hands on this

I wish to experience about brandbucket from my fellow members


Thanks :)
 
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by the way guys, I don't know if others agree, but let's keep it more on topic with BB
I agree. Honestly, I think it's a smart move by BB to discontinue the vote. I hope it will bring back BB like it used to when the submitting/acceptance rate much lower than the current one.
 
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good point Rizki, I was sort of disappointed as I rather spend the funds on getting new targetted names until I get some more liquidity, but it would trim the heard for sure. By the way the voting still works if you're patient enough to vote 1 per 30 seconds or so ahaha
 
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I spent a few hours voting yesterday not knowing the system was about to come offline.. I probably would have voted more, had I known. Why wasn't this something communicated in like an official email? As far as I can tell, as of last night you could still earn credits by voting.
 
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Had the following accepted and a whole bunch declined, though I wasn't too surprised, they were a little too niche orientated.

b-i-z-r-a-m-a
c-l-o-u-d-z-o-a
e-v-u-z-o - got some interest from one of the companies looking for a suitable name.
m-i-v-l-y
v-i-q-u-i-t-y - wasn't happy with the suggested price (1895) as this name was good enough for a tech company that raised about 50m in funding about 15 years back, so I've requested a price increase.

Some rejections I thought would make the cut...
r-e-l-a-x-i-d-o
i-c-o-n-i-f-l-y
c-r-i-m-s-o-n-f-l-y
L-i-b-e-r-t-y-b-e-l-l-e (okay not so unique but it's an iconic brandable name imho).

Approval time has come way down, logo and publishing is very slow. I'm going to aim to put in about 10% of my overall domaining time in to BB and finding suitable domains, right now contacting end users is my bread and butter on the rest of my portfolio. Very happy with the overall experience so far.
 
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It's a very nice name! I will pass on your enthusiasm to the logo designer.

I'd like to add my vote of appreciation and thanks to the logo designers. With the recent deluge of names there could have been some slippage in the quality but that has not been my experience. I've had dozens of names come on line this past month and I'm very happy with the logo work. Thank you BB!
 
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I'd like to add my vote of appreciation and thanks to the logo designers. With the recent deluge of names there could have been some slippage in the quality but that has not been my experience. I've had dozens of names come on line this past month and I'm very happy with the logo work. Thank you BB!
As I mentioned above the logos are excellent for $10 on BB.
 
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Logos are a minimum of $100 and the logo designer gets paid when (if) the domain sells, otherwise they don't get paid at all.

$10 is a listing fee. That does not go to the logo designers.
 
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Had the following accepted and a whole bunch declined, though I wasn't too surprised, they were a little too niche orientated.

b-i-z-r-a-m-a
c-l-o-u-d-z-o-a
e-v-u-z-o - got some interest from one of the companies looking for a suitable name.
m-i-v-l-y
v-i-q-u-i-t-y - wasn't happy with the suggested price (1895) as this name was good enough for a tech company that raised about 50m in funding about 15 years back, so I've requested a price increase.

Some rejections I thought would make the cut...
r-e-l-a-x-i-d-o
i-c-o-n-i-f-l-y
c-r-i-m-s-o-n-f-l-y
L-i-b-e-r-t-y-b-e-l-l-e (okay not so unique but it's an iconic brandable name imho).

Approval time has come way down, logo and publishing is very slow. I'm going to aim to put in about 10% of my overall domaining time in to BB and finding suitable domains, right now contacting end users is my bread and butter on the rest of my portfolio. Very happy with the overall experience so far.

Interesting thought process, I agree it makes sense to diversify given BB's high competition and reintroduction of the listing fee. Any strategies you'd recommend on finding end users for pure brandables? I've had luck with keyword related, or users contacting me after direct type-in, but I've never tried direct marketing brandable domains.
 
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Logos are a minimum of $100 and the logo designer gets paid when (if) the domain sells, otherwise they don't get paid at all.

$10 is a listing fee. That does not go to the logo designers.
Semantics.
 
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Interesting thought process, I agree it makes sense to diversify given BB's high competition and reintroduction of the listing fee. Any strategies you'd recommend on finding end users for pure brandables? I've had luck with keyword related, or users contacting me after direct type-in, but I've never tried direct marketing brandable domains.

Sorry, I should have been clearer. Only a small fraction of my portfolio consists of purely invented brandables. I'm aiming at increasing this over time because I think branding has a very bright future as short and memorable .coms that pass the radio test become harder to find.

In terms of TMs and UDRPS, I also feel they could end up being the safe haven of domaining. I'm sure you probalby already read this post.

Reaching out to end users as far as brandables are concerned, I think you're better off having very clear cut niche orientated brandables, you will know exactly who to target for sales (they don't necessarily have to be keyword specific, as long as they convey they belong to a certain niche), whereas with purely invented words I wouldn't know where to start!

I found one end user in a niche I know well last week, the sale is currently in Escrow for a keyword domain. Since making a deal we got talking more and it turns out they are interested in brandables within the same niche. I found another two domains in the drop lists after chatting with them and we're currently negotiating on the price for these, I expect to close on these this week.

Brandbucket's name my company section is a fantastic idea and is the best bet for finding end users imho (I can't believe some people were knocking the idea here). Every branding market place should have this feature in place because like you mentioned, it's hard to know where to start looking for end users.
 
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I spent a few hours voting yesterday not knowing the system was about to come offline.. I probably would have voted more, had I known. Why wasn't this something communicated in like an official email? As far as I can tell, as of last night you could still earn credits by voting.

There was an official email sent on July 3

News for BrandBucket Sellers
Hi Raymond,

It is has been a busy last few months here at BrandBucket! Weโ€™ve been hard at work making life a little easier for our community of domain sellers and wanted to share some of the updates.



Faster Submissions
We are happy to report that submissions are now being looked at 5x more quickly. Our attention has now shifted to speeding up our logo queue, and preliminary efforts are showing promising results.



Rising Sales
We are seeing strong sales and inquiries across the board, including our six-figure names. If you have any six-figure names you would like to sell on BrandBucket, please email me at [email protected] to discuss.



Marketing Initiatives
We have increased our marketing resources and are currently involved with several online and offline marketing programs that are showing great potential. We want to remind you to share your BrandBucket profile page to your friends and colleagues on Facebook, Twitter, and LinkedIn. This not only benefits the entire BrandBucket community, but also directly exposes your names to potential sales.



Voting App
Effective July 3rd, we will be discontinuing our voting-for-credits option in the dashboard. The information we gathered over the past year has been quite valuable, and wewill be using this data to help our customers find the perfect name for their company. Credits you currently have in your account will not be affected by this change. We are leaving the door open to future engagement models that involve earning credits, but there are none currently in the pipeline.

Lastly, please be on the lookout for a regular sellerโ€™s newsletter where we will go over a few past sales, popular keyword terms, and the most popular categories searched. We want to open up more communication channels with our sellers, and hopefully help you with your domain investing decisions.

For our American sellers have a great 4th of July weekend!

Happy Investing,

Michael Krell
Managing Director @BrandBucket
 
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To understand 'brandables' more,

a) If it is just (purely) invented one, the end user is going to try his best to 'invent' one himself - and I am sure there are plenty still available. But the con of these is I would not expect a user to reach me for the invented brandables of his own (through type-in or whois) . Another con of these is that it 'costs' lot of money for a business to brand them. If you look at the brandables we come across daily - most of the pharmaceutical products, how many of these we actually remember? But the pros of these is that they are generic and they can apply to many niches/domains/industries - so they have much more applicability, hence more marketability from sellers' perspective.

b) For Keyword brandables, challenge is there but less. The user can search by keywords but the challenge again is - would end user think of the word(s) you have besides keyword. They have limited (industry) scope but more appealing to customers and can qualify as 'niche' domains. Because they immediately signify what you do/provide. It costs much less to market them - they are definitely catchy and easy to remember compared than purely invented ones or even generic words names.

Either way, it is very hard or rather impossible for the end user to reach the seller for the brandables through whois or type-in - human mind just does not work that way. Searching for them on a listing site is equally hard, because even if you categorize them, it is not that effective, as 80% of the name probably fit into about 80% of the categories. For these reasons, turnover of brandables is much less compared to non-brandables (generic words if I may say). Brandables have many many alternatives compared to generic words names. It is really a hit or miss with brandables. For generic word names, there are limited synonyms/related words, and by swapping the words - you just lose the intrinsic meaning you were looking for in first place.

There are some more considerations

1) Number of users have hundreds of brandables, even if they sell 2-3 names in a year, they recover cost of 500+ names. So it works for them. But the challenge comes for newcomers who have names in 50's or less, without a sale, they will not be able to break even. I would assume smart domainers would keep a mixture of names, brandables/non-brandables/generic names so that they have cash flow going. "Just like a smart stock investor would do".

2) There are tons and tons of brandables around, besides searching, and bigger issue is that another brandable looks better or at least comparable to what you have just seen - how many pages of brandables one can flip through. Keywords - you think of 3, 4 or possibly 10 max and that is it. So it is very tough for a buyer to chose one brandable over other. Is it matter of liking or pricing. I would assume former to be the case, if the prices are comparable, which is true for 80% of the brandables.

3) People should really give it a serious thought - does a business(end user) really need a brandable? It really does not have to be TM, it can be SM or can be marked as some way. Even a fair use of a name can quality a name to be TM/SM'd or preventing others from doing the same. Keep in mind - for service related names, what matters is the underlying technology/process and not the name itself, while for products, purely invented names do well. So it largely depends on whether you are selling a name for a service or a product.

I have given some considerations, not to draw to any conclusions, and hope it is helpful to readers and allows them to think harder about their strategy.
 
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To understand 'brandables' more,

a) If it is just (purely) invented one, the end user is going to try his best to 'invent' one himself - and I am sure there are plenty still available. But the con of these is I would not expect a user to reach me for the invented brandables of his own (through type-in or whois) . Another con of these is that it 'costs' lot of money for a business to brand them. If you look at the brandables we come across daily - most of the pharmaceutical products, how many of these we actually remember? But the pros of these is that they are generic and they can apply to many niches/domains/industries - so they have much more applicability, hence more marketability from sellers' perspective.

b) For Keyword brandables, challenge is there but less. The user can search by keywords but the challenge again is - would end user think of the word(s) you have besides keyword. They have limited (industry) scope but more appealing to customers and can qualify as 'niche' domains. Because they immediately signify what you do/provide. It costs much less to market them - they are definitely catchy and easy to remember compared than purely invented ones or even generic words names.

Either way, it is very hard or rather impossible for the end user to reach the seller for the brandables through whois or type-in - human mind just does not work that way. Searching for them on a listing site is equally hard, because even if you categorize them, it is not that effective, as 80% of the name probably fit into about 80% of the categories. For these reasons, turnover of brandables is much less compared to non-brandables (generic words if I may say). Brandables have many many alternatives compared to generic words names. It is really a hit or miss with brandables. For generic word names, there are limited synonyms/related words, and by swapping the words - you just lose the intrinsic meaning you were looking for in first place.

There are some more considerations

1) Number of users have hundreds of brandables, even if they sell 2-3 names in a year, they recover cost of 500+ names. So it works for them. But the challenge comes for newcomers who have names in 50's or less, without a sale, they will not be able to break even. I would assume smart domainers would keep a mixture of names, brandables/non-brandables/generic names so that they have cash flow going. "Just like a smart stock investor would do".

2) There are tons and tons of brandables around, besides searching, and bigger issue is that another brandable looks better or at least comparable to what you have just seen - how many pages of brandables one can flip through. Keywords - you think of 3, 4 or possibly 10 max and that is it. So it is very tough for a buyer to chose one brandable over other. Is it matter of liking or pricing. I would assume former to be the case, if the prices are comparable, which is true for 80% of the brandables.

3) People should really give it a serious thought - does a business(end user) really need a brandable? It really does not have to be TM, it can be SM or can be marked as some way. Even a fair use of a name can quality a name to be TM/SM'd or preventing others from doing the same. Keep in mind - for service related names, what matters is the underlying technology/process and not the name itself, while for products, purely invented names do well. So it largely depends on whether you are selling a name for a service or a product.

I have given some considerations, not to draw to any conclusions, and hope it is helpful to readers and allows them to think harder about their strategy.
"Underlying technology" etc That's exactly correct. Think Amazon-Yipit-Alibaba. Thanks for that thoughtful post.
 
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@NameFit -

Interesting reflection on the "brandables" game.

This, in my opinion, is why sites like BrandBucket are successful. To understand the mindset of a buyer, you either have to A) be a buyer, or B) work with them daily, be a great listener, and understand their needs/behavior by providing them service day-in / day-out. Consultative selling is a great skill. The best sales reps are those that are great listeners.

As they say in corporate sales, individuals buy emotionally and justify intellectually. The more you can listen to the customer's needs, their confusion, understand their likes/dislikes/taste, understand their business goals, understand them... the more value you bring to them during their purchasing decision... and can assist them in justifying (intellectually) their purchasing decision once they have an emotional attachment to it or feel a "need" to move forward with making a decision.

I believe BrandBucket (and other providers) will succeed as there is a need for good listeners in this industry and value-add service providers.

I enjoyed your reflective post.

Thanks,

-Jim
 
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My 9 names are pending logo design for almost 15 days.
 
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Logos are a minimum of $100 and the logo designer gets paid when (if) the domain sells, otherwise they don't get paid at all.

$10 is a listing fee. That does not go to the logo designers.

Not exactly. They can choose a $5 payment as soon as the logo is accepted, it's the designers choice.
 
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@NameFit -

As they say in corporate sales, individuals buy emotionally and justify intellectually. The more you can listen to the customer's needs, their confusion, understand their likes/dislikes/taste, understand their business goals, understand them... the more value you bring to them during their purchasing decision... and can assist them in justifying (intellectually) their purchasing decision once they have an emotional attachment to it or feel a "need" to move forward with making a decision.

This is exactly right and why all the analysis in the world won't overcome a good salesman. The other point is that I was taught to always make that emotional connection by creating a picture of the buyer using the product. Once I get them to see themselves with this domain they start subconsciously saying little things like "I" and "Mine". Those are signals that the hook is in and set and the deal is ready to close, and again that's about listening and know when to snap the rod.
 
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Worst logo ever today for MountainViper.com. Sorry if anyone on here did it, but I am really dissapointed when it is such a descriptive name. I'm considering pulling the listing, but I'll sleep on that decision.
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Worst logo ever today for MountainViper.com. Sorry if anyone on here did it, but I am really dissapointed when it is such a descriptive name. I'm considering pulling the listing, but I'll sleep on that decision.
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I have seen worse. It is not that bad
 
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Its about a lost opportunity.
 
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