.bet vs .casino

[ambrose.xu]

enlish native speaker could tell me which one is better for domain name?

 

[Nanda Dianto]

On new gtld, it depends on keyword combination (left and right of the dot).
.Bet is shorter word and proven registry track record (Afilias Plc.). They also operate cctld.
.Casino is more specific in only casino stuff. Donuts is new registry.

 

[iAchilles]

.Bet has more or less made .casino redundant imo, unless it's for a white label casino site.

Bet covers everything, Poker, Casino and sports/racing.

Does anyone have any info on how many TM owners came forward to claim .bet names during sunrise?

If you look at all the major players in the online betting industry, the vast majority use casino.sitename.com or poker.sitename.com as sub domains.

 

[ambrose.xu]

.Bet has more or less made .casino redundant imo, unless it's for a white label casino site.

Bet covers everything, Poker, Casino and sports/racing.

Does anyone have any info on how many TM owners came forward to claim .bet names during sunrise?

If you look at all the major players in the online betting industry, the vast majority use casino.sitename.com or poker.sitename.com as sub domains.

around 400+ .bet have been registered in sun period.

 

[viento]

i not english speaker ,i think bet is better than casino since it is short

 

[Apprich]

I like .poker , i don't agree with .bet covers everything. Altough .bet is good one.. there is still room for .casino and .poker etc..
.bet is more general but you can still more specific names like vegas.casino , paris.casino etc. also make live.poker , texas.poker etc.. grabbed 988.poker. btw there is 3.95 promo on hexonet for .poker names until june 2016.

 

[viento]

Poker is ok, maybe not banned in China,exactly the .bet is already banned China gov.

 

[iAchilles]

I had a look at some TMs and I find it quite hilarious that they've just bought these names as defensive registrations, none of them are forwarded to their main commercial site for .poker, .casino and .bet.

I agree with @Apprich that the other extensions have potential for live brick and mortar operations. For online however, .bet is the most promising of the three. Brick and mortar casinos and poker rooms don't quite open at the same pace as online operations. So I see limited demand. No company can survive online in the current market offering poker as their only product.

Any white label operations launching will have a slim budget for domain acquisitions. If you take a look at all the .com sales with poker and casino over the past year, it doesn't inspire much confidence of making end user sales in .poker or .casino imho.

If you're buying these names now, you'll need to hold long to allow gtlds to gain traction. Even then there's another major issue at play.

You have to understand that gambling in Europe is all but segregated now, French can only use licensed French operators, the same applies for Spain, Italy and many more countries. All these operations use cctld. That's why Pokerstars have .fr, .es, .it and so forth. Paris.casino is never going to happen. Maybe they would forward it to a .fr main site.

That limits your market to the UK and US and Canada (changes to current grey area of online gambling are likely to come in Canada), there's lower value regions that can still gamble online freely but in the gambling industry these regions tend to be more trouble than they are worth as they are wrought with fraud. In Australia it's a similar story where they use cctld and the market is restricted (not as bad as in Europe). This unfortunately has reduced global demand for .com gambling domains in general.

The reason all these markets are segregated is because no Government likes to see its citizens money pouring out of their country to off shore gambling operations while they get no slice of the pie. It boils down to money.

Whatever emerging markets are still open, it's only a matter of time before they implement similar measures.

I'm bearish on all three extensions for all the reasons outlined above.

 

[TMarkus]

888.bet
lead to one of the worlds leading online betting company 888sport.com
and I think they will make this site not as redirect but it will be separated brand.
or even they rebrand their 888sport.com to 888.bet soon​

 

[Kunal Joshi]

I would say .casino and poker will have higher edge..

 

[iAchilles]

888.bet
lead to one of the worlds leading online betting company 888sport.com
and I think they will make this site not as redirect but it will be separated brand.
or even they rebrand their 888sport.com to 888.bet soon​

Betfair, PaddyPower, Pokerstars. All own their respective tms in these extensions, none are forwarded to their site. Sorry but do you have access to 888s marketing department with some actual insight, or are you just making wild speculative statements?

I've found one other company that has it forwarded, William Hill. You do know they own 888.com and 888bet.com, right?

It's never going to happen and I'll eat a hat if they launch the .bet as a standalone site.

 

[Apprich]

I had a look at some TMs and I find it quite hilarious that they've just bought these names as defensive registrations, none of them are forwarded to their main commercial site for .poker, .casino and .bet.

I agree with @Apprich that the other extensions have potential for live brick and mortar operations. For online however, .bet is the most promising of the three. Brick and mortar casinos and poker rooms don't quite open at the same pace as online operations. So I see limited demand. No company can survive online in the current market offering poker as their only product.

Any white label operations launching will have a slim budget for domain acquisitions. If you take a look at all the .com sales with poker and casino over the past year, it doesn't inspire much confidence of making end user sales in .poker or .casino imho.

If you're buying these names now, you'll need to hold long to allow gtlds to gain traction. Even then there's another major issue at play.

You have to understand that gambling in Europe is all but segregated now, French can only use licensed French operators, the same applies for Spain, Italy and many more countries. All these operations use cctld. That's why Pokerstars have .fr, .es, .it and so forth. Paris.casino is never going to happen. Maybe they would forward it to a .fr main site.

That limits your market to the UK and US and Canada (changes to current grey area of online gambling are likely to come in Canada), there's lower value regions that can still gamble online freely but in the gambling industry these regions tend to be more trouble than they are worth as they are wrought with fraud. In Australia it's a similar story where they use cctld and the market is restricted (not as bad as in Europe). This unfortunately has reduced global demand for .com gambling domains in general.

The reason all these markets are segregated is because no Government likes to see its citizens money pouring out of their country to off shore gambling operations while they get no slice of the pie. It boils down to money.

Whatever emerging markets are still open, it's only a matter of time before they implement similar measures.

I'm bearish on all three extensions for all the reasons outlined above.

@iAchilles Thank you for clarification about gambling industry. I see your points.

I tried to grab some top words .bet domains during pre-registration most of them were failed because either trademark issue or they were registered in higher tier. Only i could grab was some Number domains. So only chance to sell them in Chinese market maybe. However .bet is banned in Chinese market, so other extensions have more chance in Number domains.

I don't agree with they can't survive with standalone poker or casino but bet can survive.. poker has great market in standalone otherwise ICANN wouldn't release as standalone extension. why not .roulette .blackjack .slotmachine etc.. but .poker? because poker is top searched keyword comparing all other words. if you check google stats see the average monthly search result word poker is the champion .

.poker 1.22M
.bet 673k
.casino 673k

@TMarkus
888.bet is great domain .. there is also 888.poker redirects to 888poker.com
also 888.casino to 888casino.com.. all three domains owned by same person.

 

[iAchilles]

@iAchilles Thank you for clarification about gambling industry. I see your points.

I tried to grab some top words .bet domains during pre-registration most of them were failed because either trademark issue or they were registered in higher tier. Only i could grab was some Number domains. So only chance to sell them in Chinese market maybe. However .bet is banned in Chinese market, so other extensions have more chance in Number domains.

I don't agree with they can't survive with standalone poker or casino but bet can survive.. poker has great market in standalone otherwise ICANN wouldn't release as standalone extension. why not .roulette .blackjack .slotmachine etc.. but .poker? because poker is top searched keyword comparing all other words. if you check google stats see the average monthly search result word poker is the champion .

.poker 1.22M
.bet 673k
.casino 673k

@TMarkus
888.bet is great domain .. there is also 888.poker redirects to 888poker.com
also 888.casino to 888casino.com.. all three domains owned by same person.

Forget search volume, look at revenue, that paints a very different picture. Standalone casino is no problem, but for poker the revenue just isn't there. PokerStars own the online poker market now and good luck to anyone looking to tap into their market share.

http://calvinayre.com/2015/10/29/bu...ative-number-on-playtechs-q3-earnings-report/

 

[Yong1]

Any news on all these extensions? It seems like the registries are not making much of an effort to promote them.

 

[brandnow]

.bet is shorter

bet on bet

 

[Yong1]

i dont know if i would be on bet. I would rather bet on poker or casino.
online.bet or online.poker or online.casino? What sounds better?

Right now 99%.99 of all new gTLD's stink as they are not really being promoted...

 

[robert widener]

.Bet has more or less made .casino redundant imo, unless it's for a white label casino site.

Bet covers everything, Poker, Casino and sports/racing.

Does anyone have any info on how many TM owners came forward to claim .bet names during sunrise?

If you look at all the major players in the online betting industry, the vast majority use casino.sitename.com or poker.sitename.com as sub domains.

agree 100 % , .bet is the choice , covers it all

 

[Martin Scurry]

i dont know if i would be on bet. I would rather bet on poker or casino.
online.bet or online.poker or online.casino? What sounds better?

Right now 99%.99 of all new gTLD's stink as they are not really being promoted...

online.casino is far better then others.

 

[robert widener]

online.casino is far better then others.

online.casino isn't bad , I'd go for that

 

[hullswingerscom]

does anyone see any value in NNN.bet around $75 year,,,NNNN.bet ?
I think all NNN.bet are taken mainly in China but drops may be coming up soon.

 

[Ategy]

Honestly .. ".casino" is much MUCH more professional if you're going to create a gambling site. Even if it's 6 characters vs .bet's 3 characters. There are definitely exceptions and like everything else in domaining it's very case-b-y-case specific. But as a global answer .casino is better in most (not all) end-user circumstances I can imagine.

 

[Kate]

I think both are a bad .net for speculation purposes, and the .casino (registry) always wins.

 

[Ategy]

I think both are a bad .net for speculation purposes, and the .casino (registry) always wins.

lol .. I think @Kate 's post would have been so much funnier if she didn't typo .bet into .net .. but yeah .. and while I think .casino is better than .bet language wise, I'd agree with her that you should be careful with both unless you have really great single-keyword/term domains ...

 

[hullswingerscom]

Bet is coming up for renewal for them who have some.
did you renew yours ? I did time will tel if it was a good move.