Backorder on GoDaddy -> TDNAM ?

[nmr86]

Hi,

I have an interesting domain on my eyes. It is dropping in a few days.

I backordered it on GoDaddy and now it is backordered at TDNAM ??

What is this all about?? How does this work??

I already paid to.. to Godaddy ??

 

[DotWeekly]

From my understanding, it has to run thru the auction house first. (because it has not really "dropped" yet) I think your backorder turns into your First Bid at tdnam if I could remember right.

 

[networkmsia]

From my understanding, it has to run thru the auction house first. (because it has not really "dropped" yet) I think your backorder turns into your First Bid at tdnam if I could remember right.

yes Yofie is correct.

Thats cause the domain was previously registered at godaddy. So before expiring, it goes for auction.

 

[nmr86]

damnit, so i could have waked up sleeping guys??

DAMN

They failed to catch my domain, Now do I get my money back or not

 

[dnb8]

damnit, so i could have waked up sleeping guys??

DAMN

They failed to catch my domain, Now do I get my money back or not

You will get your money back to your godaddy account and you can use it to buy other backorder

 

[Name Trader]

I think Yofie may be correct in this case.

About a year ago, GoDaddy changed their policy about backordered domains. Before if your backorder won, you got the domain. They changed it so that they placed the domain for auction at TDNAM and placed your backorder as the first bid on the domain. They subsequently took all this stuff about TDNAM and first bids out of their ToS. This basically left them open to do either.

Strangely enough, I haven't seen a complaint like yours for a very long time. So, it is my understanding they quietly dropped this auction practice. My own experience would also support the argument that backordered domains which are successful, go directly to the backorderer. I have receive 2 domains in recent weeks which were backordered and never went to auction. Which is how it should always have been. So I think they probably received so many complaints and dropped it.

So I'm very surprised to see they are still placing won backorders for auction with your backorder fee as the first bid. There must be some other explanation.

 

[nmr86]

I emailed them also. I am waiting their response. I will keep you updated on this

 

[w1ww]

Backorder it at one of those Goddady resellers and the domain wont go to TDNam..

 

[goatish]

I just went through this with Godaddy a few weeks ago. I purchased a $18.99 backorder on a domain that was originally reg'd with Godaddy. They processed my backorder payment, and imagine my surprise when they advised me instead of a backorder, a $10 TDNAM auction bid had been placed:

"Because you had an existing backorder on the domain(s), we have made the opening bid of $10.00 on your behalf. If the domain name sells for the opening bid price, you will receive the domain name plus a 1-year renewal.

If the domain name receives a bid from another bidder, you will be notified via email that you have been outbid. You can then choose to place a bid on the domain name or apply your backorder to another name. Any bid amount exceeding $10.00 will be an additional charge (you still receive the 1-year renewal, included in your backorder fee)."

Imagine my surprise and displeasure to learn that my backorder had morphed into an auction bid. On closer examination you will find in their TOS:

"According to our Terms of Services under Domain Name Back Ordering and
Monitoring, in paragraph One, you will find this information regarding
TDNam.

"During this period of time, the current domain name registrant may
renew the domain and retain ownership. The domain name may also be
placed in a secondary market for resale through The Domain Name
Aftermarket service. You may learn more about the service by visiting
the site . The domain name may also be subject to a drop pool process
before it is available for purchasing. You understand that Go Daddy and
its affiliates use Go Daddy's services, including back ordering."


How to avoid this? Don't place a Godaddy backorder on good domains originally registered with Godaddy, because it could flag a review process and if they believe they can get more for the name at public auction than at internal private backorder, then your $18.99 backorder becomes a $10 TDNAM auction bid that announces your interest in a domain. If it's a good domain name, you'll likely not get it at auction for $10+reg fee, and you will have fruitlessly spent $19.95 on a purported backorder in an attempt to secure that domain.

 

[circa1850]

It never ceases to amaze me how the continue to cloud everything up. I am one of those resellers.

If a domain already has an offer, it can not be backordered. But often times they let this slip through and you end up submitting a backorder on one that you will not get regardless. In addition, even if it is appearing with no bids, if someone else has placed a backorder on it you will get a notice saying that it is already backordered in their system.

The best thing to do is this. If you see a domain you think you would like and it has no bids showing, attempt to place a backorder THRU THE BACKORDERING SYSTEM (not by doing a search and clicking on the domain).

If the domain is actually available, the process should be completed as normal. If it actually already has a backorder from someone else, it should tell you that it is either not available as a backorder or it is already in their backorder system. If it tells you the later, then someone one beat you to placing a backorder on it.

Confused? Confusing? You damn well better believe it. But don't worry, they'll change it after they email a response to you.

 

[inspiration100]

Backorder it at one of those Goddady resellers and the domain wont go to TDNam..

Is this true? sounds logical...

 

[Name Trader]

I just read your message again nmr86. I presume this was a GoDaddy reg domain. It would appear you have backordered it whilst it was still in the TDNAM auction. This might be the difference between your experience and mine, where the domain I won wasn't registered at GoDaddy.

Backorder it at one of those Goddady resellers and the domain wont go to TDNam..

Nice tip, w1ww. If there one thing I dislike more than GoDaddy, it's a GoDaddy Reseller

 

[w1ww]

I don't know if you have less chances to get it since you're using a reseller but it's true it wont go to TDNam!

 

[circa1850]

Nice tip, w1ww. If there one thing I dislike more than GoDaddy, it's a GoDaddy Reseller

I am one of the good ones...I don't even push my account onto others.

I use my reseller services to give myself price breaks on backorders (12.95), registrations, and domain hosting.

So don't hate me just because I am pretty.

 

[AdoptableDomains]

I generally only use a GD backorder on non-GD domains. If you see a GD/WW domain you are better off to watch it on tdnam and snipe bit it at the last minute. Otherwise it shows on tdnam with a bid for everyone to see that someone has an interested in it.

 

[airwav]

Sorry for bring up a dated thread, but it is right on target...

I don't know if you have less chances to get it since you're using a reseller but it's true it wont go to TDNam!

Where do you get your information from?

I backordered several domains through our reseller account and all of those domains are now listed @ TDNAM.

I did not receive one email stating that they had moved them there or that the status of the domain had changed.

I spoke with GD customer service for about 3 hours and first was told that because we were a reseller that we were not given the privilage of the first bid @ TDNAM.

Then I spoke the supervisor and was told that they sent us over a dozen emails (which we never received) yesterday stating that the domains were sent to TDNAM and they had placed the first bid for us. Regardless of not receiving these emails (I receive GD invoices just fine) where are our TDNAM bids that GD placed for us????

I spoke, yet to another supervisor and was refered to this link , an internal GD link that I could not access for the "GoDaddy Domian Life Cycle". He then stated

"...well just Google "Domain Life Cycle" and you will find that this is standard procedure"

NONE of the definations, including this one listed on ICANN or this one states,
EXPIRED >>> REDEMPTION PERIOD >>> DELETE
NOT
EXPIRED >>> REDEMPTION PERIOD >>> TDNAM >>> DELETE

Is this practice legal? It seems to me that if there is a valid backorder on a domain, that backorder should be honored.