discuss Automating Outbound

[abstractdomainer]

This is more of business + technical question that I had in mind.
Is there any software out there that can scrap the email address from the Google search results, for the domain names I input, transfer it into an Excel?

Then I could use the same, and automate to send out emails to different possible recipients.

Here are the steps I am thinking of:

1) Use the domain keywords to 'Google search' or run a tool to extract the list of websites
2) Scrap the email addresses from the websites
3) Store the email address in an Excel Sheet
4) Get the email address from the Excel sheet, take a fixed template and then, send out emails from one of my email ids.

Is it possible to automate this in any way?
I am open to exploring some paid tools as well, if required, but this looks like a good thing to explore.
If you have automated part of it, or completely, I would be happy knowing more about it.

Please also share if you think this is not possible at all.

 

[alop]

Nothing wrong with his threads. Its just he has done countless threads on outbound and rarely replies to any of our comments. Today is the exception as someone ticked him off.

Outbound is only done by certain individuals in certain cases. And Johnn is right— it can and should be considered spam when you are talking about mass automation.

How do you like all those unwanted emails and calls you get when you register a domain? Your target may not like it either.

If you are sending it to the right potential buyers it can’t be a spam ...& maybe the guy doesn’t see the point of pointless arguing ? All I see is meaningless words taken against him ..I’m not trying to speak for him but you guys need to stop ..I’m educating you on life because I really suck as a domainer

 

[abstractdomainer]

The problem is you are asking questions where the answers are freely available if you take the time to do some research..............

2) Scrap the email addresses from the websites - there are tools that can scrape this information from LinkedIn
3) Store the email address in an Excel Sheet - bloody obvious if you ask me
4) Get the email address from the Excel sheet, take a fixed template and then, send out emails from one of my email ids. - this is what mail merge is for....

You can't automate the whole process, but point 2 is automated with a good paid scraper tool..........it also requires some work

You want the best results then pay for the tools
You want to see results then learn from your mistakes and just get on with it and keep refining the process

There is no quick fix, no single solution, no short cuts , just rinse and repeat and learn as you go.....


It looks to me you just want someone to put it on a plate for you .

Thanks for your inputs. Although I would look at some of the tools myself, and looking for Robotic Process Automation to see if this is possible, if you have experience with some tools which you can suggest, that'd be great!

Automating Outbound

is an oxymoron? I thought “Outbound” was supposed to selective, highly individualized?

i’m kidding! You are supposed to make them feel unique; you have what they need;
Good luck “automating”.. the process.

This isnt a “GetRichScheme” lol.
The Proverbial Blood sweat tears.
Talking about “Outbounding!”
I doubt tried true method exists beyond;
“Use tha Google” but i could be wrong.

Here is how I am thinking and inputs are very welcome Samer:

1) For most of the outbounds that I do, I type in the keywords and then check till page 10 of Google, all the potential leads.
2) Go to their Contact Us page and find their email address. I skip some of these out if I find some result totally irrelevant but if the Google search is right, this rarely happens
3) I email each of them.
Here is how the email looks like:

Subject: Domain Name
Body:
Hi,

I own DomainName and offering it for sale at [Price].
Reply back if this interest you.

Signature

4) It works for some of my domains. It doesn't work for a lot of them.
5) I am happy with the conversion rate I get, ROI

@karmaco @johnn

Automating outbound is the same as Telemarketing people randomly calling a target areas. Also called "spam calls".
You must have too much time on your hand as you did so many bogus appraisal and questions.

If the mail is general, like I just mentioned above, and the top 100 google results being targeted, I still see that it is not telemarketing/spam.

 

[Joe N]

Nothing wrong with his threads. Its just he has done countless threads on outbound and rarely replies to any of our comments. Today is the exception as someone ticked him off.

Is this in reference to me? I'm confused, as I generally reply to all constructive comments and questions.

Anyway, my personal take is that no part of the outbound process should be automated. The moment you add automation, you do a disservice to your potential buyer by treating them like a number instead of a person. In addition, I truly believe that what you gain in efficiency is far overshadowed by what you lose in personal touch.

Can you scrape emails? Sure, but you lose the opportunity to read about your potential buyer's business and history. What motivates them? What are their aspirations? Do they already own many domain names?

Can you auto-send emails with a template? Yeah, but I think they're often pretty transparent. Templates are only a tool to get you started. Each email you send needs to have a human eye on it before it goes out.

Do yourself a favour and ditch the automation.

 

[alop]

Sadly the world today relays on automatic..if we can have burgers made by robots we can have automated anything you say we can’t ..sky is the limit there is no telling how much we can achieve

 

[karmaco]

Is this in reference to me? I'm confused, as I generally reply to all constructive comments and questions.

Anyway, my personal take is that no part of the outbound process should be automated. The moment you add automation, you do a disservice to your potential buyer by treating them like a number instead of a person. In addition, I truly believe that what you gain in efficiency is far overshadowed by what you lose in personal touch.

Can you scrape emails? Sure, but you lose the opportunity to read about your potential buyer's business and history. What motivates them? What are their aspirations? Do they already own many domain names?

Can you auto-send emails with a template? Yeah, but I think they're often pretty transparent. Templates are only a tool to get you started. Each email you send needs to have a human eye on it before it goes out.

Do yourself a favour and ditch the automation.

Why would it be about you? You didn’t start the thread nor did you reply until now. I was talking about the thread starter.

 

[HotKey]

I don't care what your excuse is. Outbound email automation is exactly the same as telemarketing.

ABUSE of privacy.

This is exactly why over the years we all forced to come up with methods to block people like @abstractdomainer , they took ADVANTAGE of our regular emails.

- email filters
- CAPTCHA
- image overlay
- whois privacy

and the prevention methods goes on.

Have you not learned, when these INTRUSIVE and UNWANTED emails manage to slip though our barriers anyways, without even a glance- they are deleted immediately. There is absolutely nothing attractive on opening up an unsolicited email.

Figure some other way to sell your garbage. Or better yet, start investing in quality names. Quality names don't require automated outbound or spam. Quality names also encourage you to make a personalized connection with that buyer.

* If your domain name has to enter into a bulk outreach program, your domain name sucks! *

 

[alop]

I don't care what your excuse is. Outbound email automation is exactly the same as telemarketing.

ABUSE of privacy.

This is exactly why over the years we all forced to come up with methods to block people like @abstractdomainer , they took ADVANTAGE of our regular emails.

- email filters
- CAPTCHA
- image overlay
- whois privacy

and the prevention methods goes on.

Have you not learned, when these INTRUSIVE and UNWANTED emails manage to slip though our barriers anyways, without even a glance- they are deleted immediately. There is absolutely nothing attractive on opening up an unsolicited email.

Figure some other way to sell your garbage. Or better yet, start investing in quality names. Quality names don't require automated outbound or spam. Quality names also encourage you to make a personalized connection with that buyer.

* If your domain name has to enter into a bulk outreach program, your domain name sucks! *

Aren’t people knowing for abusing POWER ?

 

[alop]

Humans **

 

[blogspotter]

You can use something like Hunter.io for email address and something like Streak to track your mails, but as most of the people mentioned, you can only automate so much. When you start scrapping emails, it becomes spam. SPAM means unsolicited email. No matter how you slice it. Which is why even email autoresponders won't allow you to add an email unless it is opted in.

One you stop lying to yourself and accept that it is spam, then you can start thinking objectively and decide how much spam or automation is acceptable and go from there. Legally, as long as you are sending an unsolicited email, it is SPAM. Doesn't matter if you are sending personalized or not. It is just that personalization will reduce some spam complaints. Even if you send a personalized email one at a time, one one point your email will flagged, because google will start realizing that 95% of the emails you send are to addressed not in your contact address.

BUT, back to your question.
Email automation is a highly advanced field with tons of tools out there and you can automate everything. When I say everything, I mean everything.

 

[Joe N]

Why would it be about you? You didn’t start the thread nor did you reply until now. I was talking about the thread starter.

Your post came right after another member mentioned liking one of my threads. Just a misunderstanding.

 

[Start]

SPAM HURTS DOMAIN SALES!

This spam garbage hurts the domain selling market. I have domains where I have the .com, and there are sites at other extensions, and if I get an offer and then send emails to those other possible buyers as well, the response rate is a lot lower than one would expect.

And I noticed the rate really went down after the big rise of domain-spammers in recent years.


The reason is because so much spam gets sent out now, by people who have low-quality/unrelated domains and are spamming any email address that has some tiny relation to the keyword.

The problems are:

- It causes people to assume other emails are junk, and they tune-out all emails like that... even legitimate ones (legitimate as in someone manually visiting a site, looking to see the relevance, and even writing the email out manually).

- It causes email filters to think similar emails are spam, so legitimate emails don't even get through to the end-user.

- It may also cause people to assume there's a scam involved, because of the low-quality of the email text in many cases. And sometimes you can tell it's automated too, especially when there's a mixup in the automation.



I think people doing outbound should be selective and only contact potential buyers when there is a strong connection and likelihood of interest... like if you own SOMENAME.com and there are other sites at SOMENAME.net, .co.uk, .de, .in, MySOMENAME.COM, SOMENAMEgroup.com, etc.

But instead, there are too many people sending emails to potential buyers who have only a tiny relation to the domain for sale... and the domains are low-quality too, which leads to people ignoring all emails like that. And that hurts domain sales.


The bottom line is selecting who to contact should be done manually & carefully, and that part can't be automated. Sure, once that is carefully done, there may be some automation techniques to help save time, but scraping email addresses from Google searches is far too random and imprecise.

 

[alop]

SPAM HURTS DOMAIN SALES!

This spam garbage hurts the domain selling market. I have domains where I have the .com, and there are sites at other extensions, and if I get an offer and then send emails to those other possible buyers as well, the response rate is a lot lower than one would expect.

And I noticed the rate really went down after the big rise of domain-spammers in recent years.


The reason is because so much spam gets sent out now, by people who have low-quality/unrelated domains and are spamming any email address that has some tiny relation to the keyword.

The problems are:

- It causes people to assume other emails are junk, and they tune-out all emails like that... even legitimate ones.

- It causes email filters to think similar emails are spam, so legitimate emails don't even get through to the end-user.

- It may also cause people to assume there's a scam involved, because of the low-quality of the email text in many cases. And sometimes you can tell it's automated too, especially when there's a mixup in the automation.



I think people doing outbound should be selective and only contact potential buyers when there is a strong connection and likelihood of interest... like if you own SOMENAME.com and there are other sites at SOMENAME.net, .co.uk, .de, .in, MySOMENAME.COM, SOMENAMEgroup.com, etc.

But instead, there are too many people sending emails to people with only a tiny relation to their domain... and the domains are low-quality too, which leads to people ignoring all emails like that -- and that hurts domain sales.

Obviously that's not goal of his ...I think abstractdoaminer can narrow down who relates to the domain...Call it what you want spam or not if the domain is an eye catcher its an eye catcher on top of these other a million and one "spam" emails we receive ...

 

[Bob Hawkes]

Each domain name is unique.
We should treat them that way.
Outbound, if done ever, should be based on an individual, personally researched and directed, approach, as described above by @Joe Nichols .
I realize your question was looking for technical answers, but I am not in agreement with the premise of automated outbound.
Bob

 

[Start]

Obviously that's not goal of his ...I think abstractdoaminer can narrow down who relates to the domain...Call it what you want spam or not if the domain is an eye catcher its an eye catcher on top of these other a million and one "spam" emails we receive ...

It's spam, plain and simple.

He asked about this:

1) Use the domain keywords to 'Google search' or run a tool to extract the list of websites
2) Scrap[e] the email addresses from the websites

If someone is actually looking at the sites to check the relevance of the domain, then they don't need automation to scrape email addresses. Plus, what he's asking about sounds more like simply using a tool to do a Google search, scrape email addresses from the results, and spamming all those addresses without even looking at the sites.


Also, HotKey above rightly said that this is "an ABUSE of privacy."

Your response of
"Aren’t people knowing for abusing POWER ?"
and trying to use that as an excuse is frankly a Trump-level of idiocy. It's like someone says "Killing innocent people is bad", and your reply is "Aren't people known for doing that all the time?"

 

[alop]

It's spam, plain and simple.

He asked about this:



If someone is actually looking at the sites to check the relevance of the domain, then they don't need automation to scrape email addresses. Plus, what he's asking about sounds more like simply using a tool to do a Google search, scrape email addresses from the results, and spamming all those addresses without even looking at the sites.


Also, HotKey above rightly said that this is "an ABUSE of privacy."

Your response of
"Aren’t people knowing for abusing POWER ?"
and trying to use that as an excuse is frankly a Trump-level of idiocy. It's like someone says "Killing innocent people is bad", and your reply is "Aren't people known for doing that all the time?"

The sad thing is that you related this to Donald Trump ... He is not as bad as he seems buddy

 

[MA000]

i think that to let the potential buyers know about your name is better than doing nothing.
with all respect to other opinions, but don't believe those guys who are telling you to not do it.
it will be better than waiting with doing nothing !
start your idea => do some mistakes => adapt your process => get success

 

[Start]

i think that to let the potential buyers know about your name is better than doing nothing.

That's not true.

I already explained why, but here's another simple example:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_game_crash_of_1983

Back in the early 1980s, the market for video games crashed, because of so many low-quality games that were put out. People got fed-up, because trying to find a quality game became too difficult.

Likewise, when people send out spam, it causes people to get fed-up and tune-out all emails like that. People see a domain email and are like "Why bother, it's probably just garbage anyway, and maybe a scam".

Spamming is wrong anyway, but even in terms of your own incentives, it hurts the domain market. So people need to stop doing it.

 

[alop]

Opinion is an opinion and I respect an opinion but we are getting off track here

 

[nafti]

Outbout=spamming.

You are right!

But on a side note, I had a $3K sale recently because of an outbound so I pro sending outbounds for that reason. You never know who may want your name but unaware that it exists unless you send that email.

 

[NickB]

Automation does not necessarily equal spam....

You can automate the email process - have x amount of highly targeted leads use mail merge to send the email, you set up a follow up email to follow 3 - 7 days later to the ones that don't respond - Automation at work....

Lusha, Skrapp, Rocket Reach etc etc can scrape LinkedIn for contact details - automation at work

You need to find out who owns the website or who the decision maker is and email them directly, none of this info@ or sales@ or any other variant......it has to be the business email address (not personal)

Ideally your email should have some Social proof - LinkedIn profile link in your signature, contact number, full name etc

Don't confuse spam for highly targeted B2B emails - the problem is most of the crap that get's sent is just that......crap

Is that plain enough now?.......

Last time I respond to any of these threads