Aussie Domainers - Any advice here

[gilescoley]

Aussie Domainers - URGENT ADVICE NEEDED

A couple of questions for you

I have one .com.au domain and I recently sold it

Its regged Austdomains.com.au

I had a look at the transfer process and it says this - see bottom

Am I reading this correctly, its going to cost me $300 to transfer the domain to the new owner??

Is there a cheaper way of doing this??

Anyone know of the best and cheapest place to reg .com.au and .net.au domains??

Thanks for any help

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How to change the owner of my domain?

Changing ownership of a domain name is a PERMANENT function. You will not be able to change the ownership back once you have made the change.

As you may know, ownership change means to transfer all of the rights and duties of domain names to designated person/corporate. To protect your properties, we do not accept the application of ownership change online by telephone or email.

To change the ownership of domain name, Aust Domains must reset your domain name license. This effectively means your registration period starts from the day it is reset, any previous registration period will be lost.

The fee will thus be the standard cost of new registration or equal value, plus the Change of ownership fee.

example 1. AUD $28.com domain + AUD $220 Change of ownership fee
example 2. AUD $69.com.au domain + AUD $220 Change of ownership fee

 

[DnEbook]

i made an inquiry about a domain i had at bottledomains*com*au , i was quoted $185 to transfer it , because a friend wanted it i contacted bottle and requested to delete it so my friend could grab it (which they never did) no winnners in that situation !!!! sad to say the transfer fee is huge with these domains and i cant think of any way of gettinga around it , other than including it in the sales price or gaining this information from the register you choose to use , i have never sold a .com.au yet , so i can only offer limited advice , although there a few aussies here at namepros and i am sure they will jump on board and offer some opinions/information ....... good luck with and always inform the buyer of the transfer fees is all i can suggest

 

[gilescoley]

evirtual1, thanks for you help on that

I have some really good aussie domains I want to reg, but I guess I better make sure they are "really" good to make up for the lost transfer fees.

Or just just bump your asking price up a bit

Appreciate your help mate, I just wanted to make sure I wasnt missing something

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[barefoottech]

I will investigate this matter and get a reply shortly
Transfers of .au names have always been auDA Transfer fee free in the past.
I or any of my clients have in 4 years of ownership of .au names never ever had to pay a transfer fee yet.


My site is Not the cheapest ,but it is reliable and ethical
http://nameregistration.com.au

 

[gilescoley]

Thanks Barefoottech

I think you may find its correct, a damn rip off though

 

[DnEbook]

You gotta remember these domains are not meant to be flipped for quick profit , and that you must hold a name for at least six months before selling , that's why i only own a few with perhaps the idea of developing later on ? you must decide if worth the hassle , consider staying with .tv ..... less dramas !!!! , plus you have the option of sub domains , i have realestater.tv , it gives me the option of melbourne.realestater.tv or sydney.realestater.tv , i also have exports.tv which could have the subdomain of imports.exports.tv .... consider sub domains i suggest , i think still early days for the .com.au is it worth the hassle ??? unless a killer name , maybe not

 

[barefoottech]

You gotta remember these domains are not meant to be flipped for quick profit , and that you must hold a name for at least six months before selling , that's why i only own a few with perhaps the idea of developing later on ? you must decide if worth the hassle , consider staying with .tv ..... less dramas !!!! , plus you have the option of sub domains , i have realestater.tv , it gives me the option of melbourne.realestater.tv or sydney.realestater.tv , i also have exports.tv which could have the subdomain of imports.exports.tv .... consider sub domains i suggest , i think still early days for the .com.au is it worth the hassle ??? unless a killer name , maybe not

Exactly and The names MUST be either Parked or Developed during the 6 Month period
Owning a name purely for resale in 6 months time is NOT a legal reason to own them under the auDA rules

 

[gilescoley]

thanks again

I only plan on regging about 4-7 names, a couple I feel are really good, and the other good one has the .com.au and .net.au available - I presume its best to reg both

I certainly dont plan on going mad buying them, but the ones I do want have a pretty large end-user market

thanks

 

[barefoottech]

4-7 names I wish my addiction to buying them was limited to that
I have nearly 40 now

 

[DnEbook]

hey barefoot could you show us an example of a .com.au minisite please (just interest) thanx, are they autoblogs ??

there was a site called nameseek*com*au advertisied here the other day , they are listing .com.au's for sale

 

[Corey]

I can show you a minisite by BareFoottech

http://www.fusionexplorers.com

also check the last line in my signature

there are 3 links to his sites

Cheers

 

[barefoottech]

hey barefoot could you show us an example of a .com.au minisite please (just interest) thanx, are they autoblogs ??

No autoblogs on any of my .au names

http://888pokerplay.com.au << my best .com.au minisite

 

[DnEbook]

thanks corey, i have seen the name joomla before , i am wondering if it offers auto updates of content , may i ask if this site pays for itself ? pm me if you dont wish to answer publicly

 

[gilescoley]

Exactly and The names MUST be either Parked or Developed during the 6 Month period
Owning a name purely for resale in 6 months time is NOT a legal reason to own them under the auDA rules

I plan on parking them for a while

 

[barefoottech]

How do I transfer my .AU domain to a new owner?
The license holder (for example a company or person) who has authority or control over a .AU domain is the 'registrant' as listed in the domain's WHOIS information. (You can check the WHOIS information for your domain via the WHOIS menu on our website.)

From 1st June, 2008, it is possible to transfer the ownership of a .au domain name for any reason (including sale of name).

When a domain is transferred, the registrant must meet the criteria set out by auDA in their Transfers (Change of Registrant) Policy (2008-08).

When domain ownership is transferred, the old registrant forfeits the existing 2 year registration license, and a new 2 year registration license will start from the time the transfer is completed in the .au registry.

PlanetDomain charge a $110AUD administration fee to transfer the ownership of a .au domain name and issue a new registration license.

To proceed with a transfer of ownership of a PlanetDomain registered .au domain name, please follow the steps below:

1. New company owner creates a member account within our system via: http://www.planetdomain.com.au/register_in.jsp
Note: If your domain is registered with a planetdomain reseller, you can register your member account via the reseller's website.

2. Required Paperwork must be completed.
The existing and new domain registrants must both complete the authorization form to effect the transfer. The form can be downloaded from the "Downloads" section of the PlanetDomain Support pages, here. Please include a copy of owner's ID or ABN/ACN certificate.

3. Fax Paperwork to PlanetDomain.
All the paperwork should be faxed together to ensure the transfer is processed rapidly. Once the required forms have been received, payment will be processed for the domain renewal, and the domain ownership details will be changed.

Info I just downloaded from my supplier
Similiar rules apply to Netregistry and BottleDomains

 

[netfleet]

When you transfer the domain, the registration is automatically renewed for two years so not all of the transfer fee goes to the registrars.

I use Intaserve, because we have a couple of thousand domains they give us a good deal on the transfer fee (less than $100)

I think the reasons they charge so much are:

a) new process. Perhaps more labour intensive than it could (and will be)
b) lack of competition. Once sales start hotting up you can bet registrars start discounting heavily.

Speak to Lana @ Intaserve & tell her I sent you

 

[DnEbook]

yes competition breeds cheaper prices for everything in life !!

 

[cheetah]

thats interesting!
You can buy/sell domains at ww.nameseek.com.au
there is a few there too

 

[gilescoley]

Thats right Barefoottech

the old registrant forfeits the existing 2 year registration license

I spoke to a lady at Austdomains about the $69 and $220 fee

She told me the domain needs to be registered under the new details, so you will need to pay for the domain again for the new registrant.

And then there is the $220 "change of ownership" fee

I will probably lose the sale because of the fees, the buyer wont want to pay that, and I certainly wont or its not worth th sale

 

[netfleet]

Thats right Barefoottech



I spoke to a lady at Austdomains about the $69 and $220 fee

She told me the domain needs to be registered under the new details, so you will need to pay for the domain again for the new registrant.

And then there is the $220 "change of ownership" fee

I will probably lose the sale because of the fees, the buyer wont want to pay that, and I certainly wont or its not worth th sale

You know what you should do in this circumstance. Transfer the domain to another registrar which charges less to sell (& renew). This transfer won't cost you anything.

So move it to Intaserve, renewal will cost $28 rather than $69 and you should be able to get a deal for change of ownership for half what Austdomains were charging.