Appraisal Forum

[Rob]

I have been thinking this for a while, but only recently has it got so bad in this area of NamePros that I thought it was worth a mention.

Is it just me, or are the more experienced members no longer posting in this area? I notice now appraisal threads full of 'new' members opinions about their value.

Sure, we all have to start out, and I probably made some silly appraisals when I was new, and still would now! But I see threads getting full up with inexperienced members appraisals, often seemingly plucking figures out of thin air.

I have just come from the forum myself after ranting at somebody (nothing personal if you are reading this!) for making a silly appraisal.

I just thought it is so much more helpful if people have a basic knowledge of the particular market, such as 2 letter .us or 3 letter .com for instance, depending on the domain in question, before posting.

Its like me trying to appraise the value of a car - I wouldnt have a clue, so wouldnt even try to contribute.

Does it put you off from seeking an appraisal because they are no longer so accurate here, or am I being unfair?

Just wondered on all of your opinions, including new members telling me to shut up! :p

(Wasnt sure if this was more appropriate for the Break Room or NamePross-specific forum)

 

[Tippy]

I'd have to say that most people can tell if a Domain has value or not at first glance...

Its also the posters job to provide as much info as possible for the name they wish to be appraised such as links, traffic etc... many people only put "please appraise" so why cant we simply put "reg fee"

Most of us know what makes a good Domain, common term, keywords etc... most Domains I see here are all made up which hold very little wholesale value to me as I can easily come up with my own.

Mike

 

[Ferman]

Agree, most members send only domains without traffic, rank details and "development idea" . It makes the appraisal hard.

 

[armstrong]

Ferman, these are your posts from the three most recent appraisal threads which you had posted in:
http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?goto=lastpost&t=56310

dotslash.com
sounds better

http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=55032

Very nice keyword domain
I do not prefer .net much but this one is quite good
low $x,xxx

http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=55912

Install an image hosting script and develop it in that way, if you do so low to mid $xxx, if not mid $xx

Looks to me like your appraisals are not so much more"detailed" from most of the ones you are getting. Like this one which you complained about:

http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=53505

seems reasonsable its not a brilliant name maybe if you developed it . does it have traffic? if so howmuch?

dx3k,
"as given in the example above, please appraise the domain with the detailed criterias you have used"

Now do you get the point? If not, I can easily remove your access to the appraisals area so you no longer have to be bothered by our amateur appraisals. Just say the word.

 

[Ferman]

No need to get offensive by saying you can limit my access to the section.I always try to be polite to all members and the staff. What i am trying to do is sharing my ideas about how to appraise domains. You agree or not but every idea has a value in it and every idea is a step to find the solution.

The example i have given asks for detailed reasons how they have appraised the domain PurchaseServers. If there was a request for detailed reasons at the example posts you have given, be sure i had done.If there is in the future be sure i will do.

Regards.
Ferman

 

[armstrong]

Alright. But from this point on, whether or not you ask for "detailed reasons", when someone posts a reply in your thread, don't complain. Just thank them and drive on.

 

[Ferman]

Alright. But from this point on, whether or not you ask for "detailed reasons", when someone posts a reply in your thread, don't complain. Just thank them and drive on.

If i ask for detailed reasons at my post, it means what i need is detailed reasons, nothing else, so if i ask for detailed reasons in a kind way then members who are not sure about the reasons have rights not to reply and all replies which have reasons are all wellcome.

Regards.
Ferman

 

[armstrong]

http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=12820

Do NOT be offended by the appraisals you receive, as they reflect opinions from individuals who are volunteering their opinions and experience for free.

Above is the relevant rule in appraisals. You can't make up your own rules. If you have a problem with it, keep your issues within the Break Room or Info&Suggestions area.

Members have every right to post in your appraisal thread whatever appraisal style they want, and you will not complain about it. I repeat:

From this point on, whether or not you ask for "detailed reasons", when someone posts a reply in your thread, don't complain. Just thank them and drive on.

Complain one more time (within Appraisals Area) about appraisals not being detailed enough, and you will lose access to that area.

 

[Ferman]

http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=12820


Above is the relevant rule in appraisals. You can't make up your own rules. If you have a problem with it, keep your issues within the Break Room or Info&Suggestions area.

Members have every right to post in your appraisal thread whatever appraisal style they want, and you will not complain about it. I repeat:


Complain one more time (within Appraisals Area) about appraisals not being detailed enough, and you will lose access to that area.

I do not make up my own rules. And i obey the current rules.
I am "not" trying to make rules about what the criterias have to be. I "do not" say anything about if i like the criterias or not. I just say there must be a criteria, appraiser is totally free what it is; and i need to know it to understand what the appraiser meant.

All for NamePros.

 

[Sabre]

I do not make up my own rules. And i obey the current rules.
I am "not" trying to make rules about what the criterias have to be. I "do not" say anything about if i like the criterias or not. I just say there must be a criteria, appraiser is totally free what it is; and i need to know it to understand what the appraiser meant.

All for NamePros.

Just take what armstrong has to say in good grace, and carry on without arguing

Just a little hint :tu:

 

[Qwert]

Heres a shorter was of saying all that Armstrong has said.

Stop complaining, these aren't professional apprasials. And your posts are hardly any better then the ones you've been getting. If you really want a professional apprasial then pay for it. If you think someone's apprasial is stupid and useless then ignore it, don't complain.

And what Sabre said

STOP ARGUING

 

[Badger]

So what, in addition to what Apollo already wrote, do you guys need to add...?

Leave the poor guy alone........

You cant be tried twice (or even thrice) for the same crime......

 

[Sergio965]

Hehe, thrice...wonder if it exists...allright, anyways, back on the topic...

I think it's allright how the forum is at the moment, maybe on the rules changed a bit so that members don't post idiotic responces. Also, maybe a banning of, "Low xx..try again." or "Mid to low xx" Or things like that that give the aprasial seeker no clue at all to what it is worth and what he/she should seek if intending to sell/buy the domain. Also, maybe a banning of "I have no clue" which I've seen a couple of times.
I have no comment on the NP$s given for posting at that forum.
Also, maybe limiting members that onlyhave 10 posts because they are probably jsuttrying to earn quick cash.

Thanks - Sergio965

 

[dgridley]

Personally, I find "low xx to mid xx" a bit more reasonable than tacking an exact dollar value on a domain.. I mean, c'mon.. even the most experienced appraisers can still really only hazard an educated guess. An unspecified range of xx amount to xx amount seems the best approach IMO, particularly for a free appraisal at that.

Also, maybe a banning of, "Low xx..try again." or "Mid to low xx" Or things like that that give the aprasial seeker no clue at all to what it is worth and what he/she should seek if intending to sell/buy the domain.

 

[Qwert]

Also, maybe limiting members that onlyhave 10 posts because they are probably jsuttrying to earn quick cash.

Thanks - Sergio965

Actually most 1 post members come to get their domain appraised by others... I think...

 

[CrazyTech]

Honestly, I think users should use a little bit of common sense with the appraisal forum. Perhaps a quick disclaimer might help, but I think that one should understand that the opinions in the forum are just that...opinions. It's a free service provided by those who want to help out and nothing more. I try to get a few different values from users to get the gist of a domain.

For example, I recently posted a site of mine that I feel is worth in the midish $xxx range but wanted to make sure I'm not overstating its worth. I posted the site elsewhere and the general consensus was it was worth around that. However, one user saw the site as being worth high $xx and the user posted here a lot and seemed to know what they were talking about, but the amount deviates from the general trend so I tend to discard it. However, that person saw that it was worth the price to them and so be it because it's an oppinion.

Simply because a user has x amount of posts doesn't necessarily mean that he or she knows more than me or the next person. However, a 10 post rule would be an acceptible measure IMHO to prevent those first time posters from trying to boost post counts - I agree there.

My point is just that people need to take the forum for what it is - not a certified appraisal by big industry experts.

 

[dgridley]

I'd rather see NP$ done away with completely in the Appraisal forums, rather than discourage new posters with a 10 post rule..

If they're posting to boost their counts, no NP$ will stop that.

Simply because a user has x amount of posts doesn't necessarily mean that he or she knows more than me or the next person. However, a 10 post rule would be an acceptible measure IMHO to prevent those first time posters from trying to boost post counts - I agree there.

 

[Qwert]

I'd rather see NP$ done away with completely in the Appraisal forums, rather than discourage new posters with a 10 post rule..

If they're posting to boost their counts, no NP$ will stop that.

Completly agree. Like I said, most 1 time posters come to get their domains appraised by others. Also just because they are new to this forum means nothing in comparison to their knoledge of domains.

 

[Chromis]

Appraisal Experts and NUBs...

Well being a Nub myself (Non-Useful-Body) in the realm of Appraisals.. I do have something that I would love to see..

It has been mentioned a few times........

Can Ya guess.....??

More information!
I see people say +/- Reg, or x,xxx and I for the life of me, dont have a clue why some of these are as good or as bad as they are.

maybe, wow, great name Cars.com, common wording, short, can be used by alot of heavy commercial applications Plus .com is the leader in the TLDs . say high x,xxx

or maybe 1234-1234-2-2.com well.. All numbers, might be worth something if the numbers can be related to something. The Hyphens will throw alot of people off. I personally would not want it, but I could see maybe mid to low xx..


On the other hand.... (I DO have 2 hands), The Apraisalee, should give more information if needed so you can give a better appraisal.

M2MINT.Com Possibly Men2Men International, Minting of M2Machine Guns..
I have been hosting a GayMens Forum for about 2 years with moderate activity 1200 different posters, 25Kmessages, 500 new hits a day.

Did you as a buyer use it for anything or just bought it because it was 3 random letters (I understand some people do that also), If so, let us know what it was used for..

I would like to 1. learn from the "experts" (seems there is a disagreement who/what experts are) and also, get ideas from other NUBS and people looking at buying/selling. Heck I check open names that I think of based off of conversations in here or names in here (not duping, but maybe a added name or variation of the theme...

As a person that would be asking for an appraisal, I would have to understand that just because someone "guesses" that my domain is worth 10K, unless I can find a buyer, it ain't worth squat. Heck I see some on here that cant be given away.

Those that have said it before are correct, If there is no explination then the number could have been just pulled out of their butts. :p With the explination, I might not agree with the pricing, but it might lean me one way or the other PLUS let me know what to look for in the future. What might be hot or what might be not...

Chromis
Super-NUB :lol:

 

[hookah]

When I woke this topic up after one month of good sleep my intention was just to say that some people come to appraisal forum for advice, they need as Sergio said: "...clue to what it is worth and what he/she should seek if intending to sell/buy the domain." No offence, some appraisals are to short to show to people asking for appraisal what is important in this business and what's not. In fact some several words more about value of a domain being appraised are far enough.
All the comments are written in order to support this great forum and to help people in understanding dn business - I am indebted to Namepros, too.
Greetings, H.

 

[dgridley]

We are all "legends in our own mind".. lol...

Actually, as I have said, I am not well versed in domains, but I believe I'm sensible enough to know a good domain when I see one based on over 30 years in retail andvarious marketing ventures.

I honestly don't care that stereos.com just sold for $30,000 because 1) it wasn't my domain, 2) I think they overpaid by at least $15,000 (maybe not MV but what I felt it was worth), and 3) one domain sale doesn't establish a trend.. you have to view for the long haul. I think it's cool, but I'd think it was cooler if it was my domain!

Granted, HV keywords and dictionary words are scarce in .com, but if analplugs.com was the last available .com, I still wouldn't have any use for it, lol... I think we'll see an increase in values for .us, .info, & the other ccTLDs.

OK, I don't know what I'm trying to say here.. I'll shut up now!

I would like to 1. learn from the "experts" (seems there is a disagreement who/what experts are)