Appraisal forum

[B33R]

I know... another appraisal forum suggestion!

There's just way too many requests. It's now taking 8 hours for a post to be second page and there's too many 0 replies.

I'd like to suggest a minimum post requirement to be able to post in the appraisal forum. I think there's too many people coming here just to get a free appraisal and not contributing anything back to the forum.

It's not fair on members who do give a lot back to NP who then get demoted to second page after 8 hours and then get 0 replies. I don't go there very often purely because I got tired of going through posts written by people who just want something for nothing and their lists of bad domains.

We really need to get the community spirit back into the appraisal forum and make it an additional benefit of being an active member, rather than a place that's just overrun with requests from people who haven't earned it.

I was thinking maybe 50 or 100 post minimum so you actually have to do something for NP before you get something back.

 

[Jeff]

I was thinking maybe 50 or 100 post minimum so you actually have to do something for NP before you get something back.

I agree. I think 100 posts is a fair amount to get access to the apprisal forum. Members under 100 posts should be able to read, but not able to post. I like that suggestion.

Interesting ... :blink:

Each of Staff™ has the ability to make motions for discussion at regular Staff™ meetings (typically every Thursday, though may be every other week during the summer) ... and I will be presenting this suggestion with your further commentary and thoughts here in this space, IMHO. :gl:
I also think, to some degree, it's a matter of better requiring folks - particulary those that may be newer to the site and/or Appraisals Forum - to better consolidate their appraisal(s) requests, as well. This should help with several of the currently perceived issues, in my view.
Thanks for the posts, and please keep 'em coming ... :talk:

Caveat: The Appraisals Forum, like appraisals themselves, will never be absolutely perfect ... but we will continually strive to make the Forum (platform) as FAIR, fluid, and helpful as humanly possible.
See you soon.
-Jeff

 

[kev]

yeah i agree with the minimum post rule. maybe not so much for the appraisals section but for the sales section?

Dont know what you think about that?

 

[B33R]

Interesting ... :blink:

Each of Staff™ has the ability to make motions for discussion at regular Staff™ meetings (typically every Thursday, though may be every other week during the summer) ... and I will be presenting this suggestion with your further commentary and thoughts here in this space, IMHO. :gl:
I also think, to some degree, it's a matter of better requiring folks - particulary those that may be newer to the site and/or Appraisals Forum - to better consolidate their appraisal(s) requests, as well. This should help with several of the currently perceived issues, in my view.
Thanks for the posts, and please keep 'em coming ... :talk:

Caveat: The Appraisals Forum, like appraisals themselves, will never be absolutely perfect ... but we will continually strive to make the Forum (platform) as FAIR, fluid, and helpful as humanly possible.
See you soon.
-Jeff

Any progress on this issue Jeff?

 

[Jeff]

Any progress on this issue Jeff?

Not as yet ... more comments and suggestions welcome! :talk:

Thanks for following up, B33R.
-Jeff

 

[deleted984054565403]

I've always liked the minimum post count, I personally think 100 is a little too high, though. New members will inevitably spam to reach the 100 posts. Perhaps a 25 post limit and/or a 14-day registration time (members that were members for more than 14 days) would help solve the problem somewhat better.

I've said it before, NP should not give extra NP$ in that forum than what it's giving now, it will encourage even worse appraisals than those that are being given now. If any action needs to be done, it needs to be done limiting the number of new appraisals posted rather than the number of requests filled.

Those are just my thoughts, feel free to agree/disagree/build on them.

 

[SJM211]

It's not fair on members who do give a lot back to NP who then get demoted to second page after 8 hours and then get 0 replies. I don't go there very often purely because I got tired of going through posts written by people who just want something for nothing and their lists of bad domains.

I agree that the appraisals forum could do with some improvements (I always have a hard time getting appraisals too) but I'm not sure that a minimum post rule would solve too much and it might either discourage new members from joining, or as Etab mentioned, lead to an increase in spammy posts just so they can reach the required number.

It would be nice to limit the number of appraisal requests allowed to one per person per week or something similar to stop people being greedy (there's one member who's posted 7 seperate appraisal threads today alone). Just a thought anyway..

Maybe this is a really bad idea but a second appraisal section could be added in the DNOA group, might get more of a chance there and may also get better apraisals. It would also be another incentive to sign up as a DNOA member.

 

[B33R]

Maybe this is a really bad idea but a second appraisal section could be added in the DNOA group, might get more of a chance there and may also get better apraisals. It would also be another incentive to sign up as a DNOA member.

Nice idea!

I don't know about y'all but I can definitely live with that. The only people I wanna appraise for are the regular members, regular sellers and the helpful people. Most of those are DNOA members anyway so that definitely sounds good to me.


EDIT: I should point out that while that idea will be OK IMHO (because I only want to appraise those members' domains) it won't solve the problems, mostly flooding, currently facing the existing appraisal forum.

 

[01wojtowicz]

I agree with a minimum post limit, but i think peopel should be allowed to appraise, but notpost new threads before 100 or the limit

 

[Ben42]

I think with the value of the NP$ on the rise we could use a little inflation.

That is why I propose raising the appraisals payment (If over a certain number of characters, no "Regfee" appraisals) to 3NP$.

I think people would get a lot more appraisals that way.

 

[deleted984054565403]

I think with the value of the NP$ on the rise we could use a little inflation.

That is why I propose raising the appraisals payment (If over a certain number of characters, no "Regfee" appraisals) to 3NP$.

I think people would get a lot more appraisals that way.

I feel that wouldn't be effective to our community. Even with a character limit in place, it doesn't guarantee the appraisal will be any better. If the appraisals aren't good, new members and lurkers won't want to join the community if it seems unprofessional.

 

[fonzie_007]

Due to the tangled mess of the appraisal section, I rarely go there anymore. I don't think it hurts to have a minimum number of posts to be able to post there. Another way to cut down on the excess posts is to charge 5NP$ per appraisal thread posted.

 

[deleted984054565403]

Due to the tangled mess of the appraisal section, I rarely go there anymore. I don't think it hurts to have a minimum number of posts to be able to post there. Another way to cut down on the excess posts is to charge 5NP$ per appraisal thread posted.

Good idea, I think it would work if most of the appraisals were more professional and accurate, rather than 14-year-old kids guessing numbers to gain NP$.

 

[Ronald Regging]

I completely agree with this idea. I don't know whether the 100 posts or a specific length of membership would be a better format though. It doesn't take a lot to reach 100 posts, so I don't feel that is a completely outrageous number. I'm fairly new here and while I admit, the appraisal section is what drew me in, I've honestly found more valuable resources in other areas of the forum.

I think you have to find a balance between number of users and quality of users. If you limit who can post appraisals, obviously some people will be put off by this, but they're probably the type of users who ONLY post appraisals. I think anyone who considers themselves part of a community, or seeks membership in a community they sincerely want to become a part of, will understand completely that there needs to be certain quality controls in place to make the community a more enriching experience.

 

[JMorris]

I'm really glad I ran across this thread. If nobody objects, I'd like to share my opinion as a newcomer to this forum, but hardly a newcomer to large forums.

RE: Minimum post to request an appraisal....

Good idea. 25 - 50 posts would be reasonable. 75 - 100 Posts would be inviting spam and bordering on loosing registrations.

RE: NP$ for appraisals....

Did I read that right? 5NP$ for appraisals? Heck, I'd gladly pay 5NP$ per domain. Why? Because I'm not some kid. Expert advice costs $$$. @ 5NP$ per domain, you're still getting a real bargain!

RE: Restrictions on Appraisers...

IMHO, a user should not be able to appraise until they have proven that they are knowledgeable enough to appraise. The only way I can think of enforcing this is some form of standardized "Quiz" that determines whether a user is qualified enough to appraise domains. Since Appraisers are earning NP$ for every appraisal they do, I definately think that it is reasonable to make sure they have a clue.

RE: Increase NP$ pay for Appraisers...

IMHO, the minimum an appraiser should earn is 5NP$/domain, which matches the requester's fee. This just seems fair.

Now, I have to admit, over the last 3 or 4 days, I've posted 3 threads in the appraisal forum asking for appraisals. I would have gladly posted all of my domains in one thread, but some jacka$$ posted each of his domains individually, so my posts got bumped to page 2 in no time. So I posted my domains in groups. I was wrong in doing that and I apologize.

IMHO, a way this can be remedied is to do all of the above and limit users to one request thread per day. This would reduce the number of jacka$$es posting one thread per domain, and it would give appraisers the opportunity to catch up with the huge volume of the thread.

Again, just my thoughts as a newcomer here, but not to large forums. I hope my 2 cents helps.

Best Regards,

James

 

[Ben42]

If your going to charge to create appraisal threads charge at least 25NP$. I'd say 50NP$ though.

Then raise the pay per appraisal to 5NP$, but you have to fill out a COMPLETE appraisal FORM.

That'll weed out the garbage.

Then just regular posting in the thread talking about the domain can just pay the regular amount.

 

[kev]

Due to the tangled mess of the appraisal section, I rarely go there anymore. I don't think it hurts to have a minimum number of posts to be able to post there. Another way to cut down on the excess posts is to charge 5NP$ per appraisal thread posted.

i like fonzies idea about a charge to get an appraisal. Maybe even higher at about NP$15? Another thing that could be used is a form used by appraisers

e.g.

Quality

Development Ideas

Potential

Value

Other comments


I think that would improve the standard of the appraisals section and thus better appraisals given. I also think that it would be good for appraisers to have a minimum REP status or post count to stop newbs appraising domains they dont have a clue of the value of?

 

[deleted984054565403]

If your going to charge to create appraisal threads charge at least 25NP$. I'd say 50NP$ though.

Then raise the pay per appraisal to 5NP$, but you have to fill out a COMPLETE appraisal FORM.

That'll weed out the garbage.

Then just regular posting in the thread talking about the domain can just pay the regular amount.

I like the idea of filling out a complete form, all fields should be required, or sort of like something the old NP domain portfolio/appraisal section worked.

Estimated Value (Wholesale)
Estimated Value (End-User)
Domain's "pros"
Domain's "cons"
Other Comments

Other than filling out a complete form, it's not really necessary to complicate things.