question Any Vax side effects?

[topdom]

Mods, please don't bury this message by moving it elsewhere, yet

Did you or anyone you know get a covid vax? Any side effects?
Asking because I heard of thousands of deaths,
and hundreds of thousands of adverse side effects.

These are official records, but they can still be faked , as part of
revolution.. and vaxes may have been replaced with water.
this is my only hope for brainwashed people.

 

[bmugford]

That makes sense, and you're right. I agree if you do choose not to be vaccinated, then at least be required to take a Covid test as the compromise...I wouldn't have an issue with a blood sample. I wouldn't even be against a vaccine, the only problem I have with it is its early days...all vaccines need extensive trials, they seem to have come out of nowhere, almost out of desperation to do something. I could be very wrong about that, it just seems a little fast getting to this stage, when more data is needed

If people have legit questions about the speed of this vaccine, I understand. But a lot of the people are not "asking questions" they are already making anti-vax conclusions and spreading stupid conspiracy theories.

We all know it's a plandemic created by Anthony Fauci and China and Bill Gates is using the vaccine to microchip people...and 5G is mind control or something...

People will have the choice to not be vaccinated, but it also doesn't mean they are going to have the same options.

Private companies, schools, employers, hotels, airlines, foreign countries, etc. can all require it.

I can tell you right now there is a 0% chance it is not going to be required by the military when fully approved. There is no way foreign countries are going to allow unvaccinated US soliders to just travel freely in their country.

Requiring vaccines to participate in many parts of society is nothing new.

Brad

 

[oldtimer]

India has around 1.4B people. It could likely be a few years until the vaccines roll-out to the majority.

Brad

They were actually doing very good with their vaccination programs, but they made a mistake by laxing the Pandemic safety and hygiene guidelines and protocols and allowed millions of people to gather for their religious ceremonies (by the rivers) which turned a success story into a human tragedy in less than a month.

IMO

 

[Joe N]

I'm not just suggesting that, that's exactly what happened.

Do you have any material we can read to validate that opinion?

 

[bmugford]

This thread makes it easy to see how the anti-vaxxers spread their conspiracies and misinformation online.

It is basically "flooding the zone with shit". It is impossible to keep up with the amount of nonsense from the loud minority.

Brad

 

[Kingslayer]

Just had my 2nd jab of the Oxford vaccine, whilst the UK has made mistakes with covid, i feel privileged to be from country who's on top of their vaccine rollout.

I am in my late 30's and i think many people under 50 are getting flu like symptoms for a day after the vaccine, so will keep people updated if i have any side effects (as said i did my first jab), but it was nothing really, i'd gladly take being a bit off it for a few hours to be protected from covid (hopefully) for the rest of year.

 

[bmugford]

Circling back to the topic of this thread...

I had the second Moderna dose.

The side effects included a sore arm, general muscle/joint pain, slight fever, and fatigue.

The side effects started about 8 hours after the shot, peaked at about 24 hours, and started receding at about 36 hours.

That is a small price to pay for the protection from a deadly virus.

Brad

 

[wwwulff]

I got my first shot with pfizer the other day and I was sore in the shoulder for a day but otherwise I have not had any reactions ......... the only thing I wonder about is that every time I look at myself in the mirror, I think that I more and more looks like Bill Gates

 

[bmugford]

Moderna has the advantage allowed more freedom dont need sub-zero degree temp, but other than 0.5% efficiacy difference, recall resding, the biggest gripe is Amount of genetic material in moderna compared to Pfizer., i think read moderna is much more times Pfizer.

This is nitpicking, obviously. This is beyond me

Those vaccines are very similar. I think the issue with Pfizer's storage has been addressed.

Ultra-Cold Storage Of Pfizer Vaccine No Longer Required By FDA

The FDA approved Pfizer's application for a change in policy that allows its coronavirus shot to be transported and stored in ordinary freezers. The move could make it easier to administer shots from more locations around the U.S.

https://khn.org/morning-breakout/ultra-cold-storage-of-pfizer-vaccine-no-longer-required-by-fda/

 

[johnn]

I got 4 shots with 4 different blonde nurses. No side effect. Feel good.
The nurses said they will send me the results (pregnancy tests) next week.

 

[wwwulff]

yes but those u know are a drop in the ocean..compared to all..like 0.00000000001%

You may be right, but I live in Denmark and here there are virtually registered no problems with the vaccine - We have stopped vaccinating with AZ because blood clots were registered and so far we have not used Johnson and Johnson because it is suspected for the same - I`m thankful for the medical science and have nothing left for all the idiots who spread false information and do not want to be vaccinated to the detriment of everyone else

 

[bmugford]

You can believe they existed or you can believe the opposite, you are free to believe what you want, just listen to your heart.

My point is the manipulative character of spreading fear through the MSM and if you really don't see it then you are the one who is delusional and silly.

However, maybe it's just because you own stocks of Pfitzer.

Follow the money.

If anyone here wants to trust someone that thinks the elimination of viruses like smallpox, polio, and MMR is a bad thing or they never existed in the first place...and then wants to trust them on anything related to medicine or science.

I have heard some dumb takes in my life. I think that ones takes the cake.

Brad

 

[bmugford]

You are twisting my words.

I never wrote that I think the elimination of viruses like smallpox, polio, and MMR is a bad thing, I indirectly indicated that it is possible that these diseases may not exist at all.

At least not in the extent as the governments tell us through their well paid employees and media channels.

Not only did smallpox, polio, and measles actually exist, they killed millions and destroyed the quality of life of countless people.

I have never ran into a person that doubted the existence of them. There is endless empirical data and evidence. It is crazy that this is even a discussion.

Brad

 

[Cannuck]

One of the side effects of Covid is the timing, like a perfect storm. In the wake of the US election, together with Global Warming, each issue is a disparate event, but disbelievers are likely to lump the separate issues into a grand scheme divided along party lines with only one causal event.

 

[oldtimer]

You will see that "Covid 19" samples were all actually THE FLU. - - -

And I've said it about 100 times now on this forum - TOTAL MORTALITY IS NOT ABOVE NORMAL.

What about all the people that are dying in India as we speak, did they all have the flu.

 

[Future Sensors]

What is your point?

That I think you are selective in your replies.

About what's happening in India, you state:

"I don't have enough information about what is going on in India, so I have no comment right now."

Doesn't this also apply to the health and death of Daniel? A person you didn't even know?

 

[bmugford]

They were actually doing very good with their vaccination programs, but they made a mistake by laxing the Pandemic safety and hygiene guidelines and protocols and allowed millions of people to gather for their religious ceremonies (by the rivers) which turned a success story into a human tragedy in less than a month.

IMO

It is a warning for other places, including the US, for all the people who want to pretend the virus doesn't exist and the threat does not still exist.

With so much vaccine hesitancy the same could happen here.

Again India went from 10k cases to 40k in a month, then 40k to 350k in a month.

Brad

 

[gilescoley]

I know 2 people that work directly in the vaccine testing industries.They told me people complain that the testing process was far too quick compared to other vaccines. They told me yes, the vaccine roll-out process has been a lot quicker with C19, not because of the testing but because of production/distribution. Billions of dollars have been thrown at this pandemic to get the vaccine rolled out quickly, whereas with other vaccine, the production and disctribution is what has taken the time because of cash/production/logstics etc. They told me the testing for this vaccine has been the same as other vaccines. They told me that people that think vaccines are tested for 3, 5 or 10 years before being rolled out are dreaming.

Just my 2 cents worth... not getting into a debate about it, just telling you what they told me, its up to each indiviual to make up their mind what they believe.

 

[Mike Goodman]

@topdom you have some glimmer of light into the world of high level power, but you have been misled as to where its power comes from and how and why it uses its influences.

Read up on "Military Industrial Complex", a term which used to refer to the influence of the defence industry upon policy makers in any single country or close military alliance. Today it refers specifically to a USA led, mainly financial, confluence of powerful people spread across industrial and financial sectors. It is influenced by and influences the City of London and the "Gnomes of Zurich", among a plethora of other influential, Western, international and national organisations.

It is also worth familiarising yourself with the "Mont Peleron Society" and how we are all submerged and disempowered by corporatism as espoused by Milton Friedman's predecessors such as von Mises, Hayek and Knight. Plus Friedman himself, of course. It would also be worth while finding out its USA equivalent. There most certainly is at least one. I got an inkling once the "Tea Party" or "Boston Tea Party" may be it. A body with that or a similar name is definitely heavily influenced by them.

Those will illustrate for you how the true damage is done and disavow you of the somewhat fanciful ideas of what some international cabal is doing. The groups I mention certainly do collaborate but the individuals involved are far too insular to form any specific campaigns beyond those agreed at their conferences, which are surprisingly open to public view. To suggest they have the level of cooperation or coordination to rig a worldwide vaccine plot, let alone a good enough reason, is straight out of Lalaland.

 

[Joe N]

What safety are we talking about. They intentionally put bio and chemo poisons for genocide purposes in those "vaccines".. and there are thousands of deaths as covid vaccine side effects (I mean, according to official records in US and UK). If nothing bad happened, this would just mean Trump replaced them with something good.

The whole purpose of this corona hoax is
1. genocide
2. slavery

Apologies, I thought this debate was based at least partly in reality. Cool story, though! Can you work in something with zombies next time?

 

[Joe N]

I'm talking about going to the pub, a concert, getting on a train, etc. No firearms in the UK thankfully.

There's no freedom without law and order. One of life's great paradoxes.

If you're making a personal choice to put yourself and others in harm's way, you might have to live with more restrictions.

Same exact argument could be made for smoking indoors. I don't want to be forced to be around second hand smoke just so you can exercise a choice that most people recognize to be very unhealthy.

 

[Cal2]

that's exactly what I meant that close minded people confuse open mind with stupid mind

A lot of stupidity does come from organizations and people who especially push 'be open minded' - like cults, cultists, conspiracy theorists. So it's not hard to see why people link 'open mind' with 'stupid mind'.

Instead of being 'open minded' I might suggest being 'discerning minded'. One can still consider theories outside the norm, but not to the point of sidelining common sense.

 

[Kingslayer]

If you are vaccinated, why are you stil worried that others don't wear mask. They will infect eachother , not you. You won't be infected, this is why you were vaccinated. If this is not the case why get the vaccine.
.. Most of these vaccines are worse than poison, but probably you got something like placebo, because your enemies decided to protect you from bigpharma. Not all are equally lucky.

Because people within a country (even if the country is 80% vaccinated) may still be on lockdown due to people rejecting the vaccine and that means vaccinated people's freedoms and life’s are on hold too, people rejecting vaccines may mean new variants could form too, more people that get covid = more of a chance for mutations, people rejecting the vaccine and having the attitude of 'if i get it, i get it' you are not only playing Russian roulette with your own lives and health but potentially all of your own countries and possibly the world, look at the new Indian variant.

All it takes is for a new variant to bypass the vaccines and we are back to square 1, it's essential we get as much of the world vaccinated quickly as possible to slow down mutations (we are never going to stop it fully).

 

[Paul]

This is just becoming an echochamber of bold claims--in multiple senses of the word "bold"--without actually addressing the OP's question. I'm closing it as off-topic.

Furthermore, much of the content in this thread really isn't appropriate for NamePros: it doesn't have any professional relevance to our industry, and the ideas here aren't even presented in a manner suitable for our Break Room. It's causing unnecessary headaches for our moderator and administrative teams.

While you're free to believe whatever you want, going forward, please keep this sort of content off of NamePros unless it's directly relevant to our industry. A disproportionate amount of our time is wasted dealing with topics like this. Those resources are better spent elsewhere.

 

[Samer]

 

[bmugford]

Definitely Moderna.

Yep. It felt like Mike Tyson punched me in the arm for a couple days.

Brad