Another scam letter "Elite Investment Group"

[VisualArtistFrankBonilla]

Just recived this scam letter:

Hello,

We buy and sell domains and web pr®jects. What is your price for the domain?

If you have other domains for sale feel free to send your list.

Looking forward to do business with you.

Regards,

Brian Samuelson

CEO

WHC Web Hosting Consulting & Investment LLC

I looked them up on the internet, and here they are::

Domain valuation scam targets Sedo users « That Danny!

Of course, I knew it was scam right off. :zzz: Not even a good scam letter.

Frank

 

[nielsencl]

I can't remember seeing a real troll here at Namepros.com before. I used to see them a lot in the past when I spent time of different webmaster forums.

If the admins are not going to ban ScamFlamer I respect that decision, but I think it's time for the rest of us to just ignore him and not respond in any way to his posts.

 

[Kate]

The scammers have nerve, they even post their crap here.
I really think a pack of Albanian thugs should take care of them for good :wave:

 

[ahooy]

ScamFighter registered here on June 29th with an @namesaleshop.com email address. Draw your own conclusions.

This is the scammer! banned him please! :kickass:

 

[rbeckwith]

Scammer for SURE!

Hi Guys,

Yep...whomever really lives at this address is a scammer bigtime!

Registrant:
James Whitham
12 Regent Close Saxton Road
Hull, Willerby HU10 6HJ
United Kingdom

Domain Name: WEBHOSTINGANDMAIL.COM
Created on: 02-Jul-10
Expires on: 02-Jul-11
Last Updated on: 02-Jul-10

================================================
He sent an email from this address [email protected]
by the name of Carl Goulton

Here is the email he sent:

Soory, Rod. But I see you have a good collection!
Can you accept 28,000 USD? for the following package: affiliatearmada.com USD $497.00 affiliatecloaking.com USD $397.00 affiliatecloners.com USD $397.00 affiliatecoaching.com USD $7,997.00 affiliateincome.com USD $19,997.00


I have a 50,000 USD budget for 5-7 domains. Do you have a certified
valuation for your domain names? My accountant and tax services need the
certified valuation. Unfortunately, we cannot proceed without a certified
valuation of price. I mean valaution of domain not a valaution of a web site
or traffic. Of course, we must engage a valuation company with a REAL manual
service. So I will only accept valuations from independent sources I and my
accountant trust.

To avoid mistakes I asked domain experts about reputable valuation
companies. Please check this blog with suggestions from other sellers and
buyers:
Domain Talk

If, for example, the valuation comes higher you can adjust your asking price
accordingly. It will be fair. I also hope you can give me 12% - 15%
discount.

After you send me the valuation via email (usually it takes 1-2 days to
obtain it) we'll continue our negotiations. Do you sell domain with a web
site or just the name? Domain without content is ok with me. Web site is not
necessary.

What is your preferred payment method: Escrow.com, International wire
transfer, PayPal.com or something else?

Hope we can come to an agreement fast.

Looking forward to your response.
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Beware! Beware! Beware!

This guy needs to be drawn and quartered 8-X and he can't even spell valuation right!

Pass it on

Rod

 

[ItsJustPeter]

I just pretty much got the same email from this individual. He wants to buy a domain which I don't even own. I found that kind of strange so I entered his email into google search and this thread popped up. His email is [email protected]. Bigtime scam and I responded to him real nicely.

Hello,

I've seen your domain for sale. Then I've found your email via WHO IS to
contact you direct. Please email your price.

If you have a list of other domains for sale, please send the list with
prices in plain text. We prefer "dot coms" and easy-to-remember names.

Regards,

Carl Goulton

Founder

Web Hosting & Mail Guide and Services

 

[nielsencl]

Thanks for posting about this new version. It may or may not be the same person.

But I want to encourage EVERYONE that gets an email like this to report it as SPAM. Fraud is hard to prove, but the SPAM speaks for itself. If we can keep reporting these scams as SPAM, the hosting providers will close their accounts and make it harder and harder for them to find victims.

Anyone who is not sure how to report spam effectively, please send me a PM and I will help you...!

 

[djh.me]

Another example from [email protected]

I have received a similar unsolicited scam email from Carl Goulton <[email protected]>, reproduced below:

Hello,

I've seen your domain for sale. Then I've found your email via WHO IS to
contact you direct. Please email your price.

If you have a list of other domains for sale, please send the list with
prices in plain text. We prefer "dot coms" and easy-to-remember names.

Regards,

Carl Goulton

Founder

Web Hosting & Mail Guide and Services​

I think he is going after new registrations as the domain to which he is referring was only registered a couple of days ago.

 

[sbp]

I also received an email from someone at "webhostingandmail.com" for a domain that I just purchased (was dropping) 2 days ago. This thread saved this newbie a lot of wheel spinning..thanks! See the mail below:

Hello,

I've seen your domain for sale. Then I've found your email via WHO IS to
contact you direct. Please email your price.

If you have a list of other domains for sale, please send the list with
prices in plain text. We prefer "dot coms" and easy-to-remember names.

Regards,

Daniel Sullivan

Vice President

Web Hosting & Mail Guide and Services

[email protected]

 

[ghost120]

Hey,

I have got this email also:

Hello,

I've seen your domain for sale. Then I've found your email via WHO IS to 
contact you direct. Please email your price.

If you have a list of other domains for sale, please send the list with 
prices in plain text. We prefer "dot coms" and easy-to-remember names.

Regards,

Daniel Sullivan

Vice President

Web Hosting & Mail Guide and Services
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viewing, copying or distribution of, or reliance on this message by
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message in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message
and deleting it from your computer.
========================================================

 

[Satanclaus]

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Hello,

We have an offer for your domain name. What is your asking price?

Our company invests in domains and developed sites. In case you have a
list
of domains for sale, please send the list with prices in plain text.
We prefer "dot coms", "dot nets" and easy-to-remember names.
Regards,

Daniel Sullivan

MBA, MSCE

Founder

Web Hosting & Domain Investment LLC
========================================================
NOTICE - This communication may contain confidential and privileged
information that is for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any
viewing, copying or distribution of, or reliance on this message by
unintended recipients is strictly prohibited. If you have received this
message in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message
and deleting it from your computer.
========================================================

 

[scifimon]

Hi, I'm new just joined today. I listed one of my domains on Sedo yesterday and then I received one of these too.

Hello,

We have an offer for your domain name. What is your asking price?

Our company invests in domains and developed sites. In case you have a list of domains for sale, please send the list with prices in plain text.
We prefer "dot coms", "dot nets" and easy-to-remember names.
Regards,

Daniel Sullivan

MBA, MSCE

Founder

Web Hosting & Domain Investment LLC
========================================================
NOTICE - This communication may contain confidential and privileged information that is for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any viewing, copying or distribution of, or reliance on this message by unintended recipients is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer.
========================================================

Unfortunately I answered him and he offered me $5900 for my domain. However being careful and thinking it might be a bit to lucky to get a buyer straight away, I thought I search around. Luckily for me, I found this post and have told him I am not interested. Thanks for the heads up people.

 

[isaacl]

I got the same email yesterday, after I listed a domain at Sedo a few days ago.
I actually replied first, asking how much they would offer, and they offered $5000.
I got excited, then was a bit wary, so I ran it by a friend who's been doing domains for a while, and he told me that it's a scam...
The funny thing was that I got 2 of the original emails...
Emails are below, I hope this helps someone else.

Hello,

I've seen your domain for sale. Please email your price. Our company is
interested in new domains.

If you have a list of other domains for sale, please send the list with
prices in plain text. We prefer "dot coms" and easy-to-remember names.

Regards,

Daniel Sullivan

MBA, MSCE

Founder

Web Hosting & Domain Investment LLC
========================================================
NOTICE - This communication may contain confidential and privileged
information that is for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any
viewing, copying or distribution of, or reliance on this message by
unintended recipients is strictly prohibited. If you have received this
message in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message
and deleting it from your computer.
========================================================

I then replied:

Hi.
We are interested in selling the domain name, but we're asking potential buyers to make an offer for the domain name.
If it falls within or close to the price we're willing to take, then we can negotiate.
Please let us know what you're willing to pay.

To which he replied:

Can you accept 5,000 USD?

I have a 45,000 USD budget for 8-10 domain names. Have you had your domain names evaluated in the past? Without a valuation certificate we cannot be sure in the sale price. Moreover, my accountant and tax services always ask for valaution certificates . On the other side, it's very important for me in terms of reselling too. Of course, we must engage a valuation company with a REAL manual service. So I will only accept valuations from independent sources I and my accountant trust.

To avoid mistakes I asked domain experts about reputable valuation companies. Please check this blog with suggestions from other sellers and buyers:
Domain Talk

If, for example, the valuation comes higher you can adjust your asking price accordingly. It will be fair. I also hope you can give me 12% - 15% discount.

After you send me the valuation via email (usually it takes 1-2 days to obtain it) we'll continue our negotiations. Do you sell domain with a web site or just the name? Domain without content is ok with me. Web site is not necessary.

What is your preferred payment method: Escrow.com, International wire transfer, PayPal.com or something else?

Hope we can come to an agreement fast.

Looking forward to your response.

 

[<domain99>]

Hooraayyy!!!!

SWREG already refund my money. Thank you nielsencl and all the people in this forum. I really love you all. Thank you very much!!:loveyou::loveyou:

 

[taktikz]

Got this one a few minutes ago from: [email protected]

=====================================================
Hello,

We have an offer for your domain name. What is your asking price?

Our company invests in domains and developed sites. In case you have a
list
of domains for sale, please send the list with prices in plain text.
We prefer "dot coms", "dot nets" and easy-to-remember names.
Regards,

Daniel Sullivan

MBA, MSCE

Founder

Web Hosting & Domain Investment LLC
========================================================
NOTICE - This communication may contain confidential and privileged
information that is for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any
viewing, copying or distribution of, or reliance on this message by
unintended recipients is strictly prohibited. If you have received this
message in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message
and deleting it from your computer.
========================================================

 

[mistermarcio]

Hooraayyy!!!!

SWREG already refund my money. Thank you nielsencl and all the people in this forum. I really love you all. Thank you very much!!:loveyou::loveyou:

i want to get my money back also can you tell me what is the email address of SWREG that i must write to ?
thank you!

 

[enlytend]

Oh what fun - I got one too !

The domain they're using for the mail (webhostingandmail.com) is reg'd through Godaddy - I filed a spam complaint. Here's the URL - https://supportcenter.godaddy.com/Abuse/SpamReport.aspx?isc=g&ci=9077 in case anyone else wants to do the same.

It forwards to a domain with Hong Kong registration info and a crappy "hosting reviews" (i.e. affiliate) site, which is hosted at ThePlanet.

 

[nicedomains]

The official appraisal scam thread

Might as well start one and keep it rolling since they keep registering new domains and new pitches to come at domain owners with... Just got this one below:

Email Address: [email protected]

Hello,

What is your asking price for your domain?

We have found it listed for sale and we have a good offer for you.

Our comapny invests in domains and developed sites. In case you have a
listof domains for sale, please send the list with prices in plain text.
We prefer "dot coms", "dot nets" and easy-to-remember names.

Regards,

Adam Brzowski

COO

I knew it was a scam immediately, I responded with $5k and the appraisal scammer from name-deals.com replied:

Can you accept 4,000 USD?

I have a 38,000 USD budget for 5-8 domain names. Have you had your domain names evaluated in the past? Without a valuation certificate we cannot be sure in the sale price. Moreover, my accountant and tax services always ask for valaution certificates . On the other side, it's very important for me in terms of reselling too. Of course, we must engage a valuation company with a REAL manual service. So I will only accept valuations from independent sources I and my accountant trust.

To avoid mistakes I asked domain experts about reputable appraisal companies. Please check this blog with suggestions from other sellers and buyers:
domainexplorer.org/Archive/63780341.htm

If, for example, the valuation comes higher you can adjust your asking price accordingly. It will be fair. I also hope you can give me 12% - 15% discount.

After you send me the valuation via email (usually it takes 1-2 days to obtain it) we'll continue our negotiations. Do you sell domain with a web site or just the name? Domain without content is ok with me. Web site is not necessary.

What is your preferred payment method: Escrow.com, International wire transfer, PayPal.com or something else?

Hope we can come to an agreement fast.

Looking forward to your reply.

....classic :zzz:


Please add your own new scam email addresses to this thread.. I will dig up a few more and post them here too.

 

[Obulus]

I got an email from this person earlier. :o

I got offer 12k. ^^

 

[witboy]

Got exact email too. Scammer.

 

[nicedomains]

A couple more of these email addresses sending similar emails:

[email protected]

[email protected]

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