discuss All Chinese Premium LLNN and NNLL.com are Gone!

[J9]

I scanned all Chinse premium (without a,e,i,o,u,v and 0,4) LLNN and NNLL .com and all are gone. I registered last two CP NNLL.coms that were left!

What do you think is the future of this?

 

[dordomai]

Do double Number + LL.com non-chinese premium have any market value today?

Another slightly off topic question. (I didn't see an active LLLL.net thread):

What could be the current floor price of an AABA.net chinese premium?

 

[Mr. Deleted]

Do double Number + LL.com non-Chinese premium have any market value today?

About 12 dollars. Give or take.

 

[DomainVP]

Anyone have the GD sales for the last few days for LLNN?

 

[campout]

Anyone have the GD sales for the last few days for LLNN?

LLNN

RD86.com     $180     9-Jan
PY85.com     $130     9-Jan
GH95.com     $115     9-Jan
RD95.com     $107     9-Jan
RD91.com     $90     9-Jan
RD65.com     $80     9-Jan
RD71.com     $61     9-Jan
TZ37.com     $55     9-Jan
GW65.com     $55     9-Jan
DG59.com     $141     8-Jan
LK15.com     $55     8-Jan
NF25.com     $50     8-Jan
ZF82.com     $120     7-Jan
MX82.com     $92     7-Jan
ZF72.com     $56     7-Jan
GW69.com     $45     7-Jan
CJ85.com     $207     6-Jan
XN59.com     $95     6-Jan
QS16.com     $62     6-Jan

NNLL

96JY.com     $27     9-Jan
72JK.com     $22     7-Jan
72MB.com     $77     6-Jan
97WG.com     $20     6-Jan

LNNN

L732.com     $55     8-Jan
L537.com     $50     8-Jan
C928.com     $104     7-Jan
K932.com     $71     7-Jan
D687.com     $101     6-Jan

NNNL

897K.com     $101     6-Jan

 

[Lionel Cohen]

LLNN

RD86.com     $180     9-Jan
PY85.com     $130     9-Jan
GH95.com     $115     9-Jan
RD95.com     $107     9-Jan
RD91.com     $90     9-Jan
RD65.com     $80     9-Jan
RD71.com     $61     9-Jan
TZ37.com     $55     9-Jan
GW65.com     $55     9-Jan
DG59.com     $141     8-Jan
LK15.com     $55     8-Jan
NF25.com     $50     8-Jan
ZF82.com     $120     7-Jan
MX82.com     $92     7-Jan
ZF72.com     $56     7-Jan
GW69.com     $45     7-Jan
CJ85.com     $207     6-Jan
XN59.com     $95     6-Jan
QS16.com     $62     6-Jan

NNLL

96JY.com     $27     9-Jan
72JK.com     $22     7-Jan
72MB.com     $77     6-Jan
97WG.com     $20     6-Jan

LNNN

L732.com     $55     8-Jan
L537.com     $50     8-Jan
C928.com     $104     7-Jan
K932.com     $71     7-Jan
D687.com     $101     6-Jan

NNNL

897K.com     $101     6-Jan

Any stats on LLLN and NLLL Sir?

 

[campout]

Any stats on LLLN and NLLL Sir?

I've not been tracking them. Sorry, Lionel.

 

[campout]

My analysis is that we have a $55 base on LLNN without AEIOUV04 (actually, at least $63 considering price of renewal). That's what we saw today; we'll see if it holds.

Now when we look at the last 7 days of Chinese LLNN and remove any that have an 8 anywhere and remove all doubles, we can get an idea of where "generic" prices are:

DG59.com     $141     8-Jan
GH95.com     $115     9-Jan
DX67.com     $111     5-Jan
RD95.com     $107     9-Jan
BZ15.com     $100     5-Jan
YF65.com     $97     3-Jan
XN59.com     $95     6-Jan
RD91.com     $90     9-Jan
CJ32.com     $88     5-Jan
XL57.com     $83     5-Jan
RD65.com     $80     9-Jan <---- MEDIAN
YT72.com     $64     3-Jan <---- MEDIAN
QS16.com     $62     6-Jan
RD71.com     $61     9-Jan
RD36.com     $58     3-Jan
ZF72.com     $56     7-Jan
TZ37.com     $55     9-Jan
GW65.com     $55     9-Jan
LK15.com     $55     8-Jan
LR59.com     $54     4-Jan
NF25.com     $50     8-Jan
GW69.com     $45     7-Jan

I like using the MEDIAN price, which in this case is up to $72 now.

The AVERAGE is $78.

My guess is we will hit $100 quick. And yes I am biased and want that to happen because I own a lot

 

[DomainVP]

My guess is we will hit $100 quick. And yes I am biased and want that to happen because I own a lot

I wouldn't call that biased at all, just being smart.

I've been keeping pretty good track of the awareness of LLNN for a while now.

People were still trying to figure out LLNN in August, and some were already buying pairs (READ THREAD)

What was VERY interesting to me was the $3k sale of IG88, and where it was reported. It was some time in September and it was posted here on the forum in the VR thread.

Now it wasn't the sale that was interesting... but that it was the fact that it was removed, along with posts that congratulated the sale. Not moved to another section, removed. So you won't find it anywhere if you look.

I guess the OP didn't want the throngs of VR lurkers to know about LLNN's yet.

By mid-September DropCatch/HugeDomains had focused on LLNN domains with specific letter combinations to PinYin words or letter acronyms - great ones on the drop were near impossible to get without going through them.

By early October (specifically October 4th) it was pretty clear to me that this market was going to pop soon. There were too many top level players targeting the namespace across the board and everyone seemed to be very hush-hush.

On October 14th, the very next day after I posted this, a blog post came out about LLNN buying.

There were some nay-sayers who wanted to dump on my research and POV on LLNN, but even that nay-sayer went out and bought 100 LLNN's 20 days later. . When the same people that publicly dump on what you are saying, and then go out and buy 100 LLNN's - it's amusing - beware of those guys.

... and now here we are.

I wouldn't be shocked if the chip floor was $100 sooner than the end of JAN 2016, as it is quickly approaching - but an $100 floor is inevitable before the end of the month.

The prices are doing the talking, I'm just sharing my early observations.



Take a second to read this thread:
https://www.namepros.com/threads/numb3rs-whats-the-deal-with-4-digit-domains-nnnn.104068/

It's a excellent read (from 2005) on how 4N started to take shape and obtain premium pricing. One of the best parts...

some of these NNNN.com domains were available to register for the basic reg fee while others were commanding prices over $100.

Sound familiar?

 

[JackChan]

Is this too late to join the LLNN , NNLL Chinese premium party?

 

[DomainVP]

Is this too late to join the LLNN , NNLL Chinese premium party?

Not at all, it's just the beginning.

It's going to be more expensive right now to buy the more 'premium' chips ending in 8, containing pairs, or strong brandables.

But 'expensive' is a relative term. Chip LLLL's were expensive at $500/ea last year around June/July... 6 months later they were $2k+. So where will LLNN be in 6 months, I don't know... but one of the markers of a strong year for LLNN would be a strong Jan-2016 pricing.

That pricing is emerging, and once the floor is $100 I would recommend these as a strong buy.

I think there will be a $300-$500 floor eventually and premiums could fetch over $1k+ around June-July. That's based on watching emerging domain markets over the last few years. Keep in mind, this is my opinion and projection. I haven't been wrong yet, so may time prove me right or wrong.

With some premiums selling over $250 - $300 and the recent sale of a two pair chip selling for $4k+, I think my projections are starting to come to a reality.

You can probably buy some chips at fair market price around the forum instead of waiting for drops and auctions.

 

[JackChan]

I did some research base on LLNN and NNLL, most sales are keep increasing daily so which is a good sign to hold some for a while.

 

[campout]

@DomainVP There are always naysayers. My hope is that this thread can stay positive and we can all make money.

 

[DnEbook]

Well I purchased my second "double" which starts with SS and has a ending of 5 .. I wont post the whole domain as it is owned by a member here and if for some reason it does not go through it may get complicated. I figure with only 2600 available these are quite handy, if you wish to take the vowels and V examples out there are only 2000 out there. I happily paid $350

 

[campout]

Is this too late to join the LLNN , NNLL Chinese premium party?

No!! Like DomainVP said, I think this party is just getting started. The NNLL are cheaper FWIW. To get LLNN, I think you've got to pay at least $60... today... Tomorrow it could be $70, $80, $100, who knows. Like you said, they are moving up daily. I think they have a long runway. They are sparse, so it doesn't take many people wanting them to drive the price up.

 

[DnEbook]

I know there are 2600 LLNN Double letters, exactly how many LLNN are in existence I wonder, do we have a figure?

 

[DomainVP]

I know there are 2600 LLNN Double letters, exactly how many LLNN are in existence I wonder, do we have a figure?

Not many at all.. 67,600.

To put that in perspective, thats less domains than Michael Berkins portfolio that he just sold to GoDaddy.

For further perspective... there are 456,976 LLLL.coms

The LLNN namespace is so undervalued it's crazy. Very reminiscent to 4L when most of them well selling for $50 -$100.

 

[DnEbook]

Great information thanks!

 

[JackChan]

No!! Like DomainVP said, I think this party is just getting started. The NNLL are cheaper FWIW. To get LLNN, I think you've got to pay at least $60... today... Tomorrow it could be $70, $80, $100, who knows. Like you said, they are moving up daily. I think they have a long runway. They are sparse, so it doesn't take many people wanting them to drive the price up.

Just like you said, I am totally agree with you. Like 2 year ago .. Trash LLLL.com letters that no one want to get them .. now it's golden letters .. OMG! .. Sorry, but I can't miss another boat anymore.

 

[Mr. Deleted]

If anyone wants some LLNN/NNLLs I can buy them for 80 each, although that may go up in time. Let me know if you are in the market

 

[campout]

Today, Jan 10, GD Expiring

LLNN (a lot more inventory than usual today):

LK38.com     $167
TD89.com     $131
LK89.com     $101
QX32.com     $89
LK95.com     $89
QX87.com     $83
LK25.com     $82
RZ57.com     $76
QX81.com     $76
RZ73.com     $76
LK96.com     $75
QX72.com     $72
LK93.com     $71
LK92.com     $71
LK37.com     $71
LK27.com     $71
FD92.com     $71
QX75.com     $66
LK69.com     $66
LK75.com     $66
LK62.com     $65
LK65.com     $50

NNLL:

12CJ.com     $22
36JK.com     $22
25TQ.com     $17

LNNN:

B686.com     $128
Y231.com     $60

 

[JackChan]

Look like LLNN will be floor price $100 very soon.

LK95 vs LK96 price are different a bit .. Which number u think better

 

[Kassey Lee]

95:购物>Shopping
96:酒乐>Wine pleasure

购物 is a more common term but 酒乐] more brandable so I have no opinion on this issue. The price difference is not that significant.

 

[1john2004]

What is so special with
LK38.com $167 ?

 

[campout]

What is so special with
LK38.com $167 ?

Other than that it ends in 8, nothing that I can tell.

 

[JackChan]

What is so special with
LK38.com $167 ?

38 is the lucky number in Chinese