Advice to newbies: stöp régisterìng µs€less IDNs !

[Kate]

OK I see so many fake IDNs being registered than I feel compelled to write this.
I will post this only once.

Names like pízza drînk cařs ßanana etc are worth zero, period

Example: just because televisîon yields about 335,000,000 results in google does not mean you should register it.
Please understand that search engines return data based on a case-insensitive search, so take the habit to use the + operator to perform a strict search, like this:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=opera&rls=en&hs=fhz&q=+televisîon&btnG=Search
Result:

Results 1 - 6 of 6 for +televisîon

Bottom line: these are not real words, they mean nothing to an end user, they likely won't get any traffic and are unfit for development. Last but not least they have no particular SEO benefits :kickass:

Do not waste your money, register real IDN words instead

 

[devolution]

Something interesting that has happened with Google AdWords recently might mean that those 'useless' untypable IDNs suddenly become very valuable...

http://www.wealthmountains.com/news/internet-marketing/google-adwords-policy-update

 

[davnin]

Something interesting that has happened with Google AdWords recently might mean that those 'useless' untypable IDNs suddenly become very valuable...

http://www.wealthmountains.com/news/internet-marketing/google-adwords-policy-update

but they are talking about the URL of the landing page.
Why are you talking about IDN?

 

[jacksonm]

Something interesting that has happened with Google AdWords recently might mean that those 'useless' untypable IDNs suddenly become very valuable...

http://www.wealthmountains.com/news/internet-marketing/google-adwords-policy-update

I don't see that anything has changed, so please help me out here.

I tried to run ads with IDN display URLs and the Adwords system rejects them. I mailed adwords support for manual approval, and they refused - told me that Google classifies IDNs as "vanity URLs".

From the article you mentioned:

We do not allow the use of multiple domains or branding and vanity URLs.

Adwords support basically told me that you can't use "köln.com" as a display URL because it doesn't match the real domain name, which is "xn--kln-sna.com". I was back and forth with them about this all of January, February, and also in March.

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[Phio]

Google is probably working on this now. They do want to monetize the rest of
the world. They're biggest competitor will be Baidu (if it's not already)

Once IE6 is banned from banking and credit card sites, things will move fast.

Paypal is already considering banning IE6. As IE6 loses ground, and IE7/8 becomes the world standard, google will be forced to allow urls in Native languages. They wouldn't want to miss out on all that dough.

Here's the paypal story courtesy of RD

http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/144813/paypal_to_block_users_with_old_browsers_.html

 

[Fka200]

Google is probably working on this now. They do want to monetize the rest of
the world. They're biggest competitor will be Baidu (if it's not already)

Once IE6 is banned from banking and credit card sites, things will move fast.

Paypal is already considering banning IE6. As IE6 loses ground, and IE7/8 becomes the world standard, google will be forced to allow urls in Native languages. They wouldn't want to miss out on all that dough.

Here's the paypal story courtesy of RD

http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/144813/paypal_to_block_users_with_old_browsers_.html

I can see the light!

 

[jacksonm]

I can see the light!

Hallelujah brother!

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[Timewarp]

I understand the phishing situation is a sticky one but I really dont like the calls for censorship Im reading in this thread.
It may be a small niche but I have bought, sold and developed a number of domain hacks (sigh7ings.com z1p.us ect) that are totally valid. Ive seen no problems with sellers misrepresenting these domains in any way.

Its fine to have an opinion on good and bad investments or TM infringement but the rules here should be the same as the rest of the forum where people are free to buy and sell what they choose.

 

[dezinerite]

I'm on the fence on this one right now. I feel it could be useful to own televisîon and actually develop it. I wouldn't really agree with the "unfit for development" bit. If it's developed well, visitors will remember the "î".

On the other hand, people who register such domains should understand what they're registering and why. I personally don't know which combination of keys on my keyboard will get me that "î", so I have to literally copy & paste it. The site will probably never have natural typed-in traffic because nobody is likely to type that.

 

[Aggzzu]

Do domains like Über.com or Jūrmala.com have any value? Do people type those in?

 

[jacksonm]

Do domains like Über.com or Jūrmala.com have any value? Do people type those in?

Sure.

I own TürkPorn.com and it gets type-in round the clock, daily revenue as well. I recently listed it for sale at idnchannel.com .

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[mulligan]

Its fine to have an opinion on good and bad investments or TM infringement but the rules here should be the same as the rest of the forum where people are free to buy and sell what they choose.

Indeed .. but when an unscrupulous seller tries to pass off something that only 'looks' like sex.com (ѕех.com anyone?) but in fact is a meaningless made up 'word' then the usual 'rules' don't apply .. do they?
Even when some of these sellers are asked 'what language is it' / 'what does it mean in English' they don't know .. If the seller doesn't know then where does that leave all the clueless amongst you?

Buy what you like but with IDNs be aware of what you actually are using Daddy's credit card / your paper round cash for.

Try a google search for:
sex
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=sex&btnG=Search&meta=

And then for:
ѕех
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=ѕех&btnG=Search

 

[commsskills]

I would like to add my two cents.

I come from a country where there is reasonably tight censorship and while I accept the need for it, I do question its application at times. Thus I am wary of people coming forth and telling us that these people are crooks and those are the goods. And it is for your good that they are destroyed.

A distinction needs to be made here:

(1) Sellers trying to pass off something invaluable as valuable.

By all means expose them. Or institute a process to expose such stuff. So that the buyer will know what he/she is getting into.​

(2) But there is no need to 'destroy' them.

In short, if pizza.com is different from pizza.com, and someone tries to tell us that it is, then expose the lie. But let the potential buyers decide for themselves.

 

[gjvblack]

NOpoint in using those IDNs, They are just wasting their money.

 

[mulligan]

(2) But there is no need to 'destroy' them.

No, but people come here and try to sell, for example, ѕех.com, which is not a word in any language, and when asked they agree that they don't know what 'language' it is they need to be exposed for what they are.
These people who have no idea of what IDN even means jump in and register useless domains and then try to sell them to equally clueless domainers .. well that's tantamount to fraud, intentional or not.

And BTW .. it has nothing to do with censorship. If I see someone bidding on a useless domain I will inform them in the thread that the domain is useless and if they are still stupid enough (And yes, there are those who ignore the warning) to go ahead then they deserve everything they get.

It's not a matter of calling anyone a crook, more a case of pointing out the facts to those who let greed and $$$ signs blind them and think they can buy ѕех.com for $15